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My 91 lincoln towncar stalls when warmed up.

Asked by mstar80888 (1points) November 3rd, 2008

I have had this trouble for some time. My car stalls when warmed up and eventually the battery dies. The jumper cables get really hot when I jump try to jump it. I don’t think the battery was over 1 year old. When I took the alternator in to the car parts place it was checked out. I even took it to another place just in case and it checked out ok there too. So I get the car jumped and it drives around the block (about 1 mile) and it stalls. I buy a battery charger/alternator diagnostic unit, hook it up and it is like trying to revive a coronary patient who has lived on twinkies, hot dogs and donuts for 20 years. No response the engine barely turns over. I installed a new battery and hooked up diagnostic unit to battery to monitor the alternator while the engine was running. At first the unit showed 100% alternator working, then as the car warmed up (~5 minutes) the engine started running rough and I noticed the unit display 0% alternator and the battery was draining very slightly. The engine continued to run rough and I gunned it. The engine stalled and I had a little trouble getting it to stay started. It kept stalling. Then after a couple of minutes, I started the engine and the unit displayed between 88 – 97% (but never 100%) alternator working again. I left it running and it seemed to be fine. It started raining so I had to quit before I could experiment any more. Any ideas? Bad alternator, even though I took it in already and it checked out ok? I thought the O2 sensors were acting up at one time. Also, could a vacuum leak somewhere be causing me a problem? Anything you give me is a great help. Thanks a bunch.

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bodyhead's avatar

It’s probably not the battery because you should hypothetically be able to run without a battery once it’s started.

I would guess that the alternator might be bad even though it tested out ok but there could also be some type of crazy power drain (or short) somewhere. One way to be sure of this is to run this test at night. Turn the headlights on and as the car starts to stall do the headlights dim? I would shine the lights against a wood fence or house so it’s easier to tell. If so, it’s probably an electrical problem. If not, you may have some other type of problem.

Does this always happen or did this just start? Did you run completely out of gas recently? Every time you run out of gas you suck up all the debris from the bottom of your fuel tank and shoot it down the fuel line. If this is the case, it would also be prudent to change your fuel filter.

Maybe your fuel pump is starting to go bad. There’s a ton of stuff it ‘could’ be on an older car.

Test the headlights to see if it’s electrical, then we’ll go from there.

mstar80888's avatar

@ bodyhead. Thanks for the response. Ok, I am pretty sure it is electrical in nature. The lights dim a little and even the dash. It must be a power drain. About 4 years ago I had to pull the engine to change a leaky oil pan and I am wondering if I yanked on the wiring harness too hard by accident. Is there a way to trouble shoot where the short is if so?

bodyhead's avatar

It sounds like your alternator might not be putting off enough power. Do you have any extra gear hooking up in that thing? When you tested was the radio on? Was your heat on?

If you yanked something hard enough to create a short, you should probably see it grounding out with a small spark. But still, alternator would be my first suspect. (thought it would probably kill a fuse if there was a short)

Is this a new alternator? (or newly refurbished as the case may be?) Also, did you take it to two shops of the same name or did you take it to two competitors. A competitor might have a different type of machine. I always get my stuff at Advance Auto Parts (or if I want something really nice I go to Napa) and avoid AutoZone like the plague if I can help it.

mstar80888's avatar

No extra gear. The radio was not on but the heat was on full blast. I kind of hear a shorting sound in the dashboard when I am driving. It is so faint no one else seems to really hear it, I think I am crazy hahahha. I took the alternator to competitors, murray’s and autozone right across the street. It is an older reman. ~7 years.

bodyhead's avatar

You aren’t the only person having this problem.

bodyhead's avatar

Hey I’m not sure I was clear there. When the car is off (even with it working properly) the lights will dim slightly when you turn off the engine. The lights would have to dim in a major way for you to be sure it’s electrical.

If you are 100% sure that your alternator is working properly, you may want to start checking some items in the fuel system.

mstar80888's avatar

How do check O2 sensors and the other stuff mentioned on that website you linked for me? Should I just replace them all since it is an old car?

mstar80888's avatar

OMG I just read the last part of that website. It stalls when in gear only. And I have been having problems with the tranny when going to overdrive. Sometimes it does not shift into overdrive when I exceed 40mph.

rachaelcate's avatar

sounds like a vacuum leak….mstar. if your car isnt shifting right , like you describe, your looking at a tranny rebuild.

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