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Who here else besides me hated the new Star Trek movie? And tell your reasons.

Asked by ragingloli (45885points) May 22nd, 2009

This is a translated version of a german review:

Better you burned up

In the new <<Star Trek>> movie, everything philosophical was replaced by miserably staged action against the laws of nature.

“J.J. Abrams is a brainless, overbearing bastard, who should be served

his own testies for breakfast.” It is the first sentence coming out of

my mouth as I, still shocked, stand in front of the Plaza cinema in

Zürich and light my already 3rd cigarette to calm myself down. Behind

me lie the 2 worst hours that I ever spent in a cinema, with the press

screening of the new <<Star Trek>> movie. Even worse than the

unbearable boredom of Sofia Coppola’s exotic kitsch <<Lost in


Science fiction is called that, because the genre, no matter how

phantastic the presented stories are, always has one foot in science.
The new <<Star Trek>> movie, the product of the director of the

conceptless endless imposition <<Lost>>, J.J. Abrams, would not even

satisfy the simplest scientific demands which it needs to be counted

as science fiction, if at the end of the flick all of the invariably

talent free actors would be beaten to death with physics textbooks.

Preferrably, while the dedication to the inventor of <<Star Trek>>

runs on the screen, the <<great bird of the galaxy>> Gene Roddenberry

and his recently deceased wife Majel, that are both rotating in their

graves with 1000 revs.

Physics for Kindergardeners

That Abrams, an avowing fan of the <<Star Wars>> franchise and its

futuristically painted kung-fu-new-wave-esoteric-kitsch-crap, expects

us to put up with the possiblity that a spaceship can travel back

through time by falling through a black hole, is still the most

harmless of all mistakes – Star Trek was always marked by similar

exaggerations. But that humans can jump out of a spaceship from orbit

with parachutes onto a planet without being vaporised during

atmospheric entry, is something that no one who had even just one

physics lesson can smile about. And that Spock can witness the

collapse of his home planet, which looks bigger than a full moon, from

another solar system with the naked eye, is something that even an

averagly endowed pre-school aged child has to crack up about.

It doesn’t really help, that Abrams sees his role as director, as

shown in <<Lost>>, in showing expressionless faces in emotionless

close-ups – with the difference that he can now enrich it with high

class computer generated special effects, while even those don’t stand

up in comparison with other science fiction films of the past years.

And of course the movie runs into the same hammer as the second <<Star

Wars>> trilogy, by using spcecial effects to create a visual world

that was visionary back then, but looks cheap today.

Ideological Revisionism?

The Trekkies, the global movement of infinitely infatuated followers

of the <<Star Trek>> series, could live – after all they had to put up

with ten inthe best case mediocre movies, and that barely scratched

their love. Abrams however goes further and destroys all pecularities

that made <<Star Trek>> different from other futuristic visions:
Of course we live in different times than 1966, when Martin Luther

King himself convinced the actor of Lt. Uhura, Nichelle Nichols, not

to leave the the series, as she was a role model for black children

and young women in the entire country – but does a black US-President

make the discussion about racial equality really unnecessary and and

antiquated? Is it in times of the economic crisis really so wrong to

depict a world that overcame money and capitalist greed?

This philosophical heritage has disappeared in Abram’s <<Star Trek>>

movie so much that I am tempted to accuse the director of revisionism:

he takes the visual elements of the series, reduces them until they

lose their meaning, throws them into a mixer and fuses all that into a

petty action movie. An abominable action movie with little humour and

even less suspense – the only element his prestige project <<Lost>>

ever really had.

Abrams can be lucky that Roddenberry did not have to witness how his

ideas were treated today. The convinced pacifist Roddenberry would

feed Abrams his collected works on DVD. Bon Appetit. And should I have

encouraged you to watch the movie, even if it is to see if the movie

really is that bad, don’t do it. This movie is so bad that it isn’t

even worth pirating it.

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8 Answers

dynamicduo's avatar

Warning: Spoilers. But that should be assumed in such a thread.

One thing I disliked in the new Star Trek movie was the constant lens flares. Oh my gosh, they never ended. I felt pulled out of every scene when it occurred. Oh, and how about no real reason for having that HUGE thing of red matter instead of a few drops of it secured in containers?

However, in general I did not hate the movie, and am excited to see more Star Trek, rather than the alternative of NOT seeing new Star Trek.

However, @ragingloli, what’s YOUR opinion about the movie? I’m more interested in that versus a translated double spaced German review.

ragingloli's avatar

@dynamicduo at first i liked the movie, because i was blended by the effects and numbed by the pauseless action.
after clearing my mind, i realised what a bad movie it was. the review i posted pretty much reflects my opinion on that movie.

dynamicduo's avatar

@ragingloli That review is very harshly worded. They seem to think it’s so bad that it is the worst Star Trek production ever. And to that I must offer the proof of Voyager’s time traveling episode where humans evolve into weird lizard beasts. NOTHING beats that shitty writing, even a movie villain who is basically impotent and happens upon his weapon by chance.

cwilbur's avatar

So, basically, the reviewer thinks the science doesn’t hold up. Welcome to Star Trek.

And the movie isn’t consistent with the philosophy of the original series? He must have had an aneurysm when TNG introduced gold-pressed latinum and the Ferengi, since Roddenberry thought Star Trek would happen in a post-money civilization…..

robmandu's avatar

Well, I liked it.

And the trick is called suspension of disbelief. Try it sometime. It certainly comes in handy when watching Hollywood entertainment… and politics too, for that matter.


FrankHebusSmith's avatar

I liked it…. but I shy away from calling it star trek almost…. It was more like fan fiction.

oratio's avatar

I saw many similarities with BSG. The space fighting and other camera movement. The movie wasn’t very trekkie IMO.

I give it 4/10 used huggies.

coolstar's avatar

As a working astronomer and life-long SF fan, you expressed my similar disgust with this movie very well. Abrams has proved time and time again that he HAS NO RESPECT for his audience. How can one forget that he’s NOW responsible for two of the three worst “science in science fiction” movies ever: Armageddon and this travesty (the third one is of course “The Core”). Of all the movies, I’ve EVER seen, this is the one I’d most like to unsee. You did leave out one thing that disgusted me though, that Vulcans “don’t know nothin’ about ethics” or else why would a senior Prof at a military college be porking an undergraduate in his classes? Of course, the other idiocies already proved that “vulcans don’t know nothin about SCIENCE”. And for all you fanboys out there let me do it for you “the science has always been bad”. NO! the science we know NOW has actually always been good, and that is one way to separate good SF from crap. And here are the other most heard excuses “this is what Spock MEANT to say” and “well, if you’ll just read the graphic novel, it’ll all be explained for you”. I couldn’t suspend enough disbelief to EVER like this movie. Even the very few fun things, the caricatures of old characters, are quite easy for good actors to do. (but you think you can steal an admirals pet, kill it in a science experiment, and STILL remain in the service…....)

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