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And another thing! Am I the only one that thinks there is little or no future for Susan Boyle and that, perhaps, she's a one trick pony?

Asked by SirBailey (3125points) June 8th, 2009

She sang one song twice in her competition. If someone had done that on American Idol, Simon would have torn them apart. Maybe she only can sing two songs? Maybe it took extreme effort just to learn them well?

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dynamicduo's avatar

I wasn’t too impressed with her second performance… but since I don’t care about this crap, I don’t waste my time complaining about it… See the pattern for me? :)

FireMadeFlesh's avatar

Maybe so. I just think she’s an ingrate, and arrogant. Fancy blowing up because another contestant was complimented! People should not be so worried about her appearance – any other contestant would be judged fairly, without the sympathy factor.

Bobbydavid's avatar

The woman perfected one song only. Nothing special about that. In theatre circles, London, she is disliked hugely. Let’s just hope someone looking to make a quick buck doesn’t force this strange woman upon us anymore!

OpryLeigh's avatar

@Bobbydavid I’m so glad you said that. Her voice is very average and let’s be honest, regardless of the way she looks if she had gone for any audition in the West End she wouldn’t have gotten very far. It was all down to the sympathy vote and because people were expecting her to be a lot worse based on her appearance she got ar on a mediocre voice! I hate the sympathy vote, I also couldn’t stand the 10 year old girls voice.

Bobbydavid's avatar

Don’t get me started on that spoilt little brat!

shrubbery's avatar

I think she had guts to do the audition, and it was amazing how people had to stop and chide themselves for being judgemental when she started to sing. However, I do agree that she only learned one song and learned it well, her other one wasn’t good. But I feel sorry for her when she got sick or exhausted or whatever, cause I think she was kind of forced into that and expected to be amazing every time, so it got too much for her.

Bobbydavid's avatar

No. I think she was long overdue some therapy way before the shows. It probably helped her out long term

BBSDTfamily's avatar

You aren’t alone… I agree 100%

Aethelwine's avatar

Here we go again.

Who’s this Boyle person you speak of?

Mr_Callahan's avatar

Susan is a one-night stand in todays show business, a freak show if you will. Although she sings beautifully, there is no market for a woman of her age and lack of sex appeal. Just turn on your Tv and see who is making all the records in Nashville, tight ass boys and girls with million dollar looks….not good for Boyle, thats reality, but the promoters will bleed her for every penny they can get.

Facade's avatar

Give it another month, she’ll be old news by then.

iquanyin's avatar

if lyle lovette can do it, so can suboyle. (ever seen lovett?) who knows if she will, tho. why is she disliked in london theater circles?

Bobbydavid's avatar

Because she’s talentless but has been touted for major roles because of tv. Worldwide the powers that be(Simon Coward) have publicized her to be so amazing when in truth she’s average at best. Genuine west end artists rightly resent her and them for this

Bobbydavid's avatar

I meant Cowell….... Oops

Darwin's avatar

I am sorry to see such mean-spirited people on Fluther. Susan Boyle does sing like an angel but she is never going to make a career of singing because she is not a normal person. She is an innocent.

Miss Boyle cared for her parents until they died, and now lives alone, never having been married or even courted, in large part because she is what many describe as “slow.” She suffered from lack of oxygen at birth. She is able to live independently but will never have the ability to carry on as a singing sensation because she will never be up to it. Her responses are not due to arrogance, but to childishness from brain damage that will never go away.

When she was at school, the other students made fun of her and abused her just as you are doing here. Stop it. It isn’t right. She is absolutely no threat to any professional singer. She should be complimented on her voice, which is a lovely one, and she will undoubtedly be forgotten in a short time.

I suspect all the fuss is simply because folks were hoping for another William Hung, but Miss Boyle turns out to actually be able to sing, and she made many of us smile.

As someone else puts it in better prose:

“Ms. Boyle cared for her mother until the elder Boyle’s passing in 2007 at the age of 91; her father passed away 10 years before. Living alone, Susan attends church each weekend and it was there that her singing talent developed, and where her late mother encouraged her to sing, but Boyle had reportedly stopped singing and did not know how she would do on that Saturday night she shocked the World.

Susan’s life has not been one without pain. Sadly, she was starved of oxygen at birth and has a learning disability because of the accident. Ms. Boyle says she was abused and teased by classmates, and reportedly the scars of their comments remain to this day…

…Susan Boyle’s stirring song was as much a testimate to the power of the human sprit and a form of grieving as it was a display of talent. Susan wanted to make her mom smile, but in doing so made mothers all over the World smile—my Mom called and said Boyle was the next Julie Andrews.”

Bobbydavid's avatar

I cared for mother too. Doesn’t mean I deserve a “free ride” for learning 1 song. Not mean spirited at all, just the opinion of millions of likeminded people.

Bobbydavid's avatar

Julie Andrews has talent. A major difference between the two I think

Bobbydavid's avatar

Too much spin and hype. Time to put it away in the little box it belongs in

Bobbydavid's avatar

Ok actually truly pissed off now!

iquanyin's avatar

@bobbydavid what are you mad about?

Bobbydavid's avatar

Susan Boyle! Suddenly a saint, an inspiration etc etc. I’m from the UK and beleive me, enough is more than enough now!

iquanyin's avatar

just forget about it then. why not go on the show yourself?

Darwin's avatar

Look, she sang a song well, the numbers of viewers went sky-high, so the television company milked it for all it could. She is never going to be a threat to any of you! She is never going to have a normal life because she is brain damaged. If anything, she is the victim here because no one is looking out for her rights, including herself.

Did you go about teasing the retarded kid at school, too?

Bobbydavid's avatar

I couldn’t lower myself to that kind of show. I’d rather achieve my ambitions through hard work, dedication and earn it properly than be used and abused by greedy corporations. But that’s just me….

Bobbydavid's avatar

Hang on @Darwin who was the retarded kid question aimed at?

calvinette's avatar

I don’t understand the vitriol against her. She always dreamed of being a singer, but things got in the way. So, late in life, she decides to give it a shot. She doesn’t seem as if she asked for any of the hype or media attention, or even a “free ride” to anywhere. She just seems overwhelmed and exhausted. It seems to me the anger would be more rightly directed at the people who’ve done this to her, and who have forced her into our psyche.

Bobbydavid's avatar

Read my comments and you’ll see that my anger is completely directed at them!
Do all flutherites look to accuse so often? That’s what pissed me off

Darwin's avatar

@Bobbydavid – My comment was directed at any of you who seem somehow to believe that Susan Boyle is taking unfair advantage of the system. Some comments that engendered my response:

I just think she’s an ingrate, and arrogant. Fancy blowing up because another contestant was complimented!

The woman perfected one song only. Nothing special about that. In theatre circles, London, she is disliked hugely.

I think she was long overdue some therapy way before the shows.

Because she’s talentless but has been touted for major roles because of tv. Worldwide the powers that be(Simon Coward) have publicized her to be so amazing when in truth she’s average at best. Genuine west end artists rightly resent her and them for this.

She is an idiot savant! She can do one thing well. Why should anyone in the West End resent her? Instead, pity her. She is being used and doesn’t realize it. Think of the pain she will feel when she figures out it was just like back at school.

calvinette's avatar

@Bobbydavid ,

“nothing special…”
”...strange woman…”
“long overdue some therapy…”
“she’s talentless…”
“genuine west end artists rightly resent her and them for this.”

So… not completely directed at “them.” It’s a little personal there.

iquanyin's avatar

@bobbydavid hm. i get the sense that you have maybe worked very hard at something and have not (yet) gotten recognition for it. if so, you have my sympathy. i know how that is. many times over.

OpryLeigh's avatar

@calvinette I certainly don’t blame her for given it a shot but the problem I have is the whole sympathy vote thing. I know so many wonderful singers that are struggling to get a break (one, who applied for a similar TV talent show and turned away because she wasn’t interesting enough, who technically is a better singer than Susan Boyle and has worked very hard at her dream for many years with very little luck). She’s not a bad singer at all but she’s not a great singer and if she didn’t have the sob story to go with it I doubt she would have got as far as she did. That’s what I don’t agree with.

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Darwin's avatar

@Bobbydavid – If the shoe fits… but you weren’t the only one.

SirBailey's avatar

People! Please turn off the flames. OK?

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OpryLeigh's avatar

@Darwin I agree, the media certainly set people up for a fall and it is very cruel. She doesn’t deserve to be ridiculed, of course not but at the end of the day, she entered herself into the competition and she may be slightly brain damaged in some ways but I didn’t once get the impression that she was stupid. She knew what she was getting into when she entered the competition.

iquanyin's avatar

as if susan boyle was the cause of your friend not getting her shot. it happens all the time, there are ppl with amazing talents that simply do not have the “breaks” that are the condition for stardom, however fleeting.

i personally know many musicians, some better than some very famous people. but fame is not a limited commodity. no matter how many get it, it’s always still there to be obtained. and talent—or lack thereof—is not the deciding factor. talent and hard work are good for their own sake. they do not guaruntee one anything. and resenting another person only harms the one feeling resentment, because resentment has a hard time coexisting with joy, creativity, and the like. if one is going to focus on other people rather than on one’s own life, why not focus on the stuff that does something for you? rather than feeding yourself a diet that makes you ill.

Darwin's avatar

@Bobbydavid – I do not dislike you because I do not know you. However, I do think you are behaving in a very immature fashion.

As a theater performer and singer I do not resent her. I do pity her.

iquanyin's avatar

darwin is a bot???

OpryLeigh's avatar

@iquanyin I never once said that it was Susan Boyles fault, that’s just twisting what I said and you know it. All I meant was, Susan Boyle is less talented than my friend and yet because she was more interesting for TV (ie: hard life, not very attractive etc) she is more likely to succeed on this type of show. It’s not about talent it’s about sob stories and if you don’t have a sob story then your talent is not as likely to get noticed.

syz's avatar

[mod says] Personal attacks and off topic chatter will be removed. Keep it civil, please.

Darwin's avatar

@iquanyinNot that I know of. I am an actress and singer, however.

iquanyin's avatar

oh, i must have misunderstood. anyway, @darwin, how would you be in a position to know what suboyle “knew” about an expierience she’d never had? even in a court of law, they disallow people from speaking about what other “knew” ... wait, that’s not law. where have i seen this? law has that whole “known or should have known” (tort law, anyway).

i doubt most people know what they’re getting into most of the time. else why so many divorces? why people change their major in school? and so on. it’s impossible to know, i think, many many elements of a situation you’ve never entered before. and even hard when it’s similar to something you have done. i’d like to add that i worked for many years with developmentally disabled people, and also was in a relationship with a man who’d had brain trauma, and suboyle is to be commended. were i her friend, i’d try to help her. probably she won’t get that, but who knows.

iquanyin's avatar

um, key words there “as if.” and you can see the rest of it. i myself have perhaps worked harder and longer than most people i’ve known, and under extraordinarily difficult conditions, in several diverse endeavors. and…and nothing much. came. of. it. except: people benefited, i learned, and i now have an array of skills, knowledge, experience, and goodwill towards the hardships humans face. my main point was: there are no contracts with life, it’s not tech support. and it’s a disservice to one’s own self to hold a belief otherwise.

iquanyin's avatar

@darwin sorry! it was because darwin said about “i don’t usually say this to computers” but probably meant on computers. plus there’s a cool website where you can create and deploy communication bots (deploy them onsite) and it’s quite entertaining talking with the various ones. some are truly difficult to recognize as nonhuman. (others are more basic).

OpryLeigh's avatar

@iquanyin I simply said that, despite what people are trying to make her out to be, she is NOT stupid and can (and obviously has for many years) take a certain amount of responsibility for herself and so, chances are (although, I agree, maybe not definate) that she went into the competition well aware that she could be made fun of. Brain damaged and stupid are totally different and yes, she should be commended for getting up and giving it a go. I don’t blame her for that at all. If you had read anything I said properly you will understand what I disagree with and it’s not Susan Boyle, it’s the way these programmes work.

iquanyin's avatar

i mean, because bobbydavid said, not you darwin. sheesh. i’m gonna go have some more coffee. or a nap or something.

iquanyin's avatar

@leanne agreed, she’s not dumb. brain damage does not mean stupid. sorry if didn’t read you accurately. i seriously need to go have some coffee, and will do so now. have a great week!

OpryLeigh's avatar

@iquanyin No worries, enjoy your coffee :)

Mr_Callahan's avatar

Why are you boiling over Susan BD?

Jeruba's avatar

I thought she might have some prospects doing voice-overs, such as for commercials and animated films. Who knows what the vocal talent behind Disney’s Sleeping Beauty or Cinderella really looked like? (Yes, I know we can find out, but that is not the point.)

Really I see no reason at all to be unkind toward this woman. Whether we like her or not, she has done us no harm.

Darwin's avatar

@Jeruba – I can easily see something like that happen if she wishes.

And I am sorry, but I couldn’t help it:

The voice of Sleeping Beauty was Mary Costa and the voice of Cinderella was Ilene Woods. For each woman, the Disney role was their primary or culminating role in film. Both women were perfectly attractive in their day and both enjoyed their time doing the work for Disney.

Costa is a dedicated singer who now lives and teaches music in her hometown of Knoxville, Tennessee. Woods was on stage beginning at the age of two, and had her own radio show at the age of 14. However, she chose to marry at 17, had three children, a girl and two boys and “re-cast” herself in the role of full-time wife and mother.

filmfann's avatar

I am kind of surprised by this backlash against Ms. Boyle.
Yes, she has the face of a cow, and has perfected one song.
That qualifies her to replace Celine Dion in my book.
I am sure she will put out a CD soon. I am sure it will have more than one song on it.
Give her a break. She was a nobody who surprised and delighted us all.

tiffyandthewall's avatar

i don’t care to tear the woman down for not being talented enough, or for being taken advantage of by the media – even if it is her doing; whatever – but it’s quite possible.

Bobbydavid's avatar

@themods
Why is it ok for someone to accuse me of mocking retards but not ok for me to defend such a disturbing accusation? I find it an outrageous bias towards your long serving members and totally unfair. Pathetic actually

Aethelwine's avatar

@Bobbydavid you haven’t met Blondesjon, have you? he get’s modded almost on a daily basis. no bias here. I’ll let the mods speak for themselves though. just my opinion.

Mr_Callahan's avatar

Maybe they could transplant her voice to Paris Hilton, now there’s a show stopper.

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