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What would my parents do If I suddenly did what I wanted to & didn't come home when I didn't want to?

Asked by seventeen123 (428points) September 20th, 2009

17. female. crazy overprotective parents. What would yours do?

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dpworkin's avatar

I had that problem. I started running away when I was 13. When I was 16 I left for good. You are 17, you can apply at Family Court to be emancipated.

Jack79's avatar

Shoot you probably. That’s what they should do anyway. Or ok, maybe not actually shoot you. Just lock you up in your room for the rest of the decade. Or confiscate your mobile (which is probably worse).

laureth's avatar

You could always ask them. Parents vary.

poofandmook's avatar

my dad was okay as long as I called and let him know where I was, and I didn’t miss school.

@pdworkin: You don’t know any background with this girl’s situation. At 15 I wanted to become emancipated, and now at 26, I’m damn glad I didn’t. You shouldn’t be so cavalier with your advice to a teenager, not knowing if overprotective means they keep her locked in the basement or if it means she didn’t get to go to a party she wanted and now she’s having a tantrum.

dpworkin's avatar

@poofandmook That is your opinion. I have my opinion, and gave it above. That’s why we are here. Authoritarian parenting leads to bad outcomes. That’s my opinion, and that’s why I think she is better off out of there. I’m glad you disagree. That gives her something to think about. However, do not correct me in the future. That’s beyond your portfolio.

EmpressPixie's avatar

Look. You’re into raving and ecstasy. They aren’t crazy overprotective. They are simply protective. If you behave in a way that is deserving of trust they’ll probably lighten up. If you simply start ignoring them, they’re just going to get more protective, get you in a lot of trouble, and your life will probably get much worse quite quickly.

casheroo's avatar

What is it you want to do so badly that they are being “overprotective” about?

MissAusten's avatar

Without really knowing your parents, it’s hard to say. My first thought is they would try to contain you even further. Take away your car keys, your cell phone, computer, etc.

How crazy overprotective are you talking? Do they never let you out without an adult? Not allow you to stay home alone? Give you an 8:00 curfew on a weekend? Refuse to let you see boys outside of school, follow you around, monitor your email and phone?

Or, do they just want to know where you are and whom you are with? That is reasonable. Is your curfew set for around the time your parents go to bed? That is also reasonable.

You are 17, so that means you’ll be going to college next year? The year after? Unless they are abusing you or not letting you learn your way around as an independent almost-adult, I’d suggest you sit down and talk to them. Seek a compromise. Maybe they have a reason for being so protective. Have you given them cause to not trust you or your friends? Try to approach the subject as an adult. Show them that you have earned their trust and can handle yourself in a mature fashion.

If they won’t budge at all, lying to them or suddenly becoming rebellious will have no positive outcome. Show them you can be trusted, and they may ease up. If not, hang in there. You’re almost done! You’ll have a great time in college. :)

EmpressPixie's avatar

@poofandmook, @pdworkin: Luckily, we do have background on her through her previous questions.

windex's avatar

what would they do?
teach you common sense I hope
I don’t obviously know the details, but don’t freaking throw ur life away.
go to school, finish college (it’s ONLY 4 freakin years) and then do what ever u want.
it’s much better than becoming an underage pregnant crack whore.
I’m assuming yer parents want the best for you, you are still their little girl in their eyes and it’s really hard for some parents to let go.
Please give us some more details
do you mean “not letting you go out at all and hang out with anyone EVAR?”
or “not letting you party til 5 am with drugs”

aprilsimnel's avatar

Do your best to talk to your parents. Perhaps they’ve been through situations at your age that you know nothing about and know the consequences, and that’s why they’re seemingly “coming down on you.”

For example, when I was your age, my aunt/guardian laid down the law: No dating. None. Zero. Zip. No phone calls, no dances, no hanging out at the pizza shop, no homework dates, NADA. Why? When she was your age, some guy lied to her, told her he loved her, they had sex and he took off to another state when he found out she was pregnant. She ended up having a son who had no dad, and it had lasting bad repercussions on us all. She was trying to protect me by telling me “no boys”. She went way overboard, yeah, but I understand why now, and I forgive her for it. 8 times out of 10, parents are trying to protect their kids from harm, not be a buzzkill. In a couple of years, you’ll see.

Ask yourself why you want to numb out on X and raves, too. It’s hard but you have to actually allow yourself to feel and know your own stuff. Then talk to your parents about how your feel. Don’t scream, yell or rage. Be calm. Show them you’re mature, listen to them, and ask them to listen to you. Dig?

KatawaGrey's avatar

Well, if your parents are any kind of responsible, if you just don’t come home one day, they would probably call the police. Since you are not a legal adult, the search would begin immediately. Then they would probably monitor you very closely and if they ever let you out of the house again, I imagine they would insist on knowing exactly who you were with and where you were going at all times. They would probably check on you regularly and then, if you didn’t answer your phone or call back immediately, they might call the police again.

Also, being emancipated at least in the state of CT means you need parental consent.

Darwin's avatar

And if worse comes to worse, they can go to court and declare you to be incorrigible so you end up in the Juvenile Justice system for the next year. And that is no fun at all.

My daughter is seventeen and has quite a bit of freedom because I always know where she is and who she is with, she comes home at the time I set, and she does her school work and gets good grades. I feel that I can trust her not to do something that will derail her future, such as get pregnant or get arrested possessing something she shouldn’t or get into a drunk-driving accident.

I know it doesn’t seem like it now, but it is less than a year until you become 18 and can legally move out and do what you want with your life. However, you need to understand that if you do that your parents do not have to help you at all, not with money, and not with a shoulder to cry on. However, since they obviously care enough about you to set restrictive rules in order to keep you safe, they probably would still give you a hand.

jamielynn2328's avatar

At 17 I began to do what I wanted to do. I was kicked out at the age of 18 because I wouldn’t follow my parents rules. I had to scrape and sacrifice to climb into the world of being an adult. I am now thirty, have two kids, and have to put myself through college so that I can hopefully someday have a different status in life besides low income.

If I could go back I would have sucked it up and followed their rules so that I could have had a better entrance into the “real world”. It’s not as easy as ya think out here.

dpworkin's avatar

I have a lot of sympathy with all these answers, and I believe they are helpful, if, and only if the parents are not abusive. No one except me has addressed the issue of escaping from abusive parents.

I was very very fortunate to have left a miserable, abusive home, and I consider myself to be a survivor.

Do we really know that this young woman is not suffering at the hands of her parents?

Darwin's avatar

@pdworkin – Based on her other questions and posts she is upset because her parents want her to come home each night and don’t want her to go to raves or “sleep over.” She hasn’t said anything that would indicate that they are abusive.

dpworkin's avatar

I’m glad someone knows the real issues then, and I would associate myself with the people who are urging her to talk with her parents.

My first impulsive suggestion that she leave was straight out of my personal history.

I would be devastated if one of my kids wanted to leave home, but we talk, and talk, and I can’t imagine things getting that far.

Darwin's avatar

I talk with my kids, too, and I am quite sure my daughter would never want to up and leave, although she is looking forward to going out of town to college next year.

I doubt that my son would leave either, although he threatens to, because he is overly attached to me and really, really doesn’t want to grow up. He constantly rails against our rules and says we are too hard on him. Typically, all we ask him to do is put his dirty clothes in the laundry basket, put his dirty dishes in the sink, do his school work, and take his meds. To hear him tell it, we starve him, beat him, and force him to wear the same clothing day after day.

In fact, he convinced his school of that so CPS showed up at our door. What ended up happening was that he got cited by Adult Protective Services for Elder Abuse (for pushing my husband down on the floor and calling him names) and CPS comes by once a month to see if he is putting his dirty clothes in the laundry basket, putting his dirty dishes in the sink, doing his school work, and taking his meds. And not hitting or verbally abusing the other members of the household.

dpworkin's avatar

Wow! What a tale! My grown daughter was kind of nasty when she was 14, but nothing like that, and now we are the best of friends – she is a charming, accomplished young woman. And her brother is a wonderful, hard-working young man. They are 28 and 26. We’ll see how it goes with the 12-year-olds,

I guess things could have gone either way: I could have been an abusive father, but I just refused ever to lay a hand on any of my kids.

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

This is reason number 357 in my soon to be published book, “500 Reasons Not to Have Children” }:^)

casheroo's avatar

@evelyns_pet_zebra I have a child, I could help you with that book ;)

irocktheworld's avatar

My parents would kill me! My older sister did that once and got busted and I don’t think I would like to end up like that! I’d have to check up with them first if it’s not too bad.

MissAusten's avatar

@evelyns_pet_zebra I have three children, and each of them could probably contribute several reasons to your book. Reason #157: “Mommy, can I pee in the rabbit’s cage?”

seventeen123's avatar

Everyone.
-I’m not like every other immature 17 yr old.
I’m in college, have a steady job of 2 yrs, understand issues like no other.
I’m not needing sleepovers (darwin) I just need space.
I need to be able to tell my parents where I’m going, who with, when I’ll be home & other stuff like that. I don’t mind being responsible, but I’m not even getting the space to do that.
As far as if i have an abusive household, it used to be, now it’s not.

loser's avatar

My Magic 8 Ball says: You are not ready to know.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

I’m assuming you get nothing from your parents—food, housing, clothing, college tuition, and have a very good reason to treat them in a disrespectful, hurtful manner that you will regret in a few years when you actual do become an adult?

dpworkin's avatar

Oh, come on. I can’t be the only old person on here that has ever been a teenager. That’s not how you talk to a kid who is becoming an individual, and is struggling with all the weighty matters that entails.

cyn's avatar

KICK YOU OUT.
I just read the question.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

@pdworkin, and I suppose you would want a group of adults who don’t know you, and don’t really know your child encouraging them to do stupid stuff? 17 year olds who are in college are not hanging out with people who are truly their “peers”.

Have you ever parented a 16/17 year old girl who was in college? I have. It sucks. It’s the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. I feel fortunate that we lived through it without her doing permanent harm to herself.

dpworkin's avatar

@PandoraBoxx I just had hoped that you would talk to the OP the same way you talk to me. We disagree but you are respectful, and use examples, and paint the picture for me so I can understand you better. Now go and look at your answer to her. Can you not distinguish the tone? You sound like a mean old stepmother. If you want her to listen and understand your genuine concern, I think you may need to find a different way of saying it.

MissAusten's avatar

Let’s see…a 17 year old who is in college and has had the same job for more than two years? That’s very commendable.

@PandoraBoxx I’m not going to suggest that college at that age isn’t difficult. It’s an adjustment even at 18 or 19. However, at 17 a person is ready for some trust and responsibility. Holding a job for two years says a lot, especially at that age. And yet, she isn’t allowed out with friends? Isn’t given a chance to be responsible for her behavior? That seems a bit extreme to me. If she doesn’t have a history of getting into trouble, or has been able to stay out of trouble consistently for the past couple of years, asking for some leeway isn’t something to be all up in arms over.

I know I would be chafing under that kind of arrangement, but my original opinion hasn’t changed. I’d personally suggest living with it until school is complete. It seems like a long time, but as @jamielynn2328 has pointed out, putting up with it for the time being can save a lot of struggle down the road.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

@seventeen123, I apologize. I’m beginning to think that something about this question is like a trigger for things that I thought were behind me, but apparently they are not. I will respectfully bow out of this one. There angst I went through is still too close to the surface, even though it’s well behind us at this point.

casheroo's avatar

@seventeen123 I got your PM, and I can relate to some of it. Even while living under my parents roof, while in college, my parents still expected me to follow their rules. They were providing room and board for free, and cosigning loans for school for me. You never realize how much your parents actually do for you until it’s gone.
Even when I was older, my parents would flip over me getting a tattoo…and I am an adult! My husband is older than me, hasn’t lived at home for years and his mother still gets upset when he gets a tattoo.
I know you want to do things like every other teen, and for things like that, you need to sit down and talk to your parents. Tell them you want to change your hair, tell them you want to get different clothes. If you want those things, tell them you want to get a part time job so you can provide those things for yourself. If you want to be treated like an adult, you have to act like one. Good luck.

ABoyNamedBoobs03's avatar

they’d explode

galileogirl's avatar

OK precious, you are unlike any other 17 yo, chomping at the bit to be on your own and able to do anything you want-let’s say it’s time. Why do you care what your parent’s say, think or do?

Take your savings for first, last and deposit and go out and rent an apartment-if you can find a landlord who will rent to a minor who cannot legally enter into a contract.

So maybe you find aomeone so anxious for a roommate they will sublet to you (who can walk anytime you want to), there will still be the shared expenses plus food, transportation, clothing & misc costs. Be sure you eat healthily, getting sick w/o insurance is a killer.

With a roommate always comes a whole new set of problems-friends who hang out all night, her bf who eats your food and uses your computer to look at porn, the drinking and smoking habits that don’t match yours, “borrowing” your clothes and personal products.

Then what happens when someone gets cut back on work hours or loses a job?

But I’m sure you have it all worked out and you will be out of the house in a month.

Meanwhile remember the most important rule of civilization:

Whether you are 17 or 70-if you live in someone’s house, you live by their rules.

bea2345's avatar

Pretty soon you will be of age, and free to go. Hang in there. From all accounts, you have loving, if overprotective, parents: believe me, you don’t want to throw that away (and confirm a probable suspicion that you are not as mature as you think).

jamielynn2328's avatar

I was also the smartest and most mature seventeen year old in the world. Ends up I was wrong. Just like every other adult finds out once the cloud of teenage years evaporates.

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

Everyone who wants to add contributions is more than welcome to send them my way.

galileogirl's avatar

Are we allowed to solicit on Fluther?

KatawaGrey's avatar

Okay, I’m 20 years old and I am in my third year of college. While I was living in my mother’s house during the summer between freshman and sophomore years when I was in college I followed her rules. I didn’t like having to call her by 10 to tell her where I was going to be and who with. I didn’t like being unable to bring my boyfriend over. I didn’t like being woken up at a reasonable hour just because she thought I was sleeping too long. To remedy that, I got an apartment. Now, I have bills, a roommate who cleans too much and wakes me up at 8 in the morning with the vacuum, loud neighbors, a landlady who doesn’t like telling us when shit in our apartment isn’t working and I have a whole hell of a lot more freedom. Is it hard work? Hell yes. Is it worth it? Hell yes.

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

@galileogirl I suppose I can solicit suggestions or reasons for my book, but seriously, your comment up there was right on the mark. It’s not often I agree with you. Wow, we have something in common. Now that’s just scary. =)

wundayatta's avatar

What’s funny to me is that when I was 17 or 20 or 25, I wanted to be partying and whatnot. I had many friends who did party and take various drugs. I knew people who would fuck anything that moved. I knew heroin addicts and drunks. I knew people who dropped acid all throughout high school because it was so fucking boring they couldn’t stand it.

I’m sure none of their parents knew about this, at least, not the details. I’m sure many of the parents were trying to protect their kids by watching them so closely, the kids couldn’t move.

I have a thirteen year old daughter, now. She’s terribly straight-arrow at the moment. So much so that it worries me. It’s not like I want her to do drugs or drink, but I do want her to at least have some experience at some point. I think it’s important to know what is going on with mind altering substances, and to be able to make an informed choice, instead of a knee-jerk, “say no to drugs” kind of thing.

I’d rather she wait until she’s in her twenties before she experiments, but, well, that’s what adolescents do. They try a lot of stuff, and they think they can handle things, and, well, they probably can’t handle them as well at 17 as they will be able to at 25.

I think mostly what adolescents want is to be taken seriously. They want love, and they want to be able to make a contribution to society—I believe.

What parents want is to keep their kids from pain. Parents don’t want their kids to experience the pain of breakups, or to be used by other people, or to get ripped off, or hurt, physically.

Kids think they can handle it. Parents want them to go really slow. Kids are anxious to see what the world has to offer. Parents know the world is full of pain, and it is a dangerous place. Kids want to prove themselves. Parents want them to wait.

So both can make mistakes. Parents can be so protective that their kids think they are overprotective. Kids can be so adventuresome that parents think they take too many risks.

The power relations make this hard, too. Parents provide a roof and money for this and that, and in return, they expect you to act responsibly with their investment. If they pay for school, they want you to work hard, not party all the time.

As many have said, if you want freedom, then you also have to take responsibility for your own life. If you want parental assistance, then you also have to take parental restrictions. How much do you want freedom? Enough to leave the house and become financially responsible for yourself?

We often comment that when you’re seventeen (or whatever teen) you know everything and you spend the rest of your life learning that there is so much more to know that it seems like you know less and less. You want more freedom and yet to still be protected. You think you know how to handle yourself. This may be true.

But if you want your parents to support you, you have to prove your responsibility to them. That means restricting yourself. Not doing anything you want to. Coming home at 11 or whenever curfew is. Constantly updating them on what you are doing, so they worry less. Talking to them about what you do, and how you make decisions. Listening to their advice about decisions. Understanding their concerns.

It’s a two way street, and parents should listen to kids, too. Sometimes they don’t. Sometimes parents feel like they own their kids. It’s tough. If it’s bad enough, leave home. If it’s not that bad, then work with your parents. Try to understand their fears and try to alleviate their fears. Help them out instead of constantly bitching.

You catch more flies with honey than vinegar. I’d say it’s time to start producing a little more honey, and lay off the vinegar.

aprilsimnel's avatar

I know you feel that your situation is awful and terrible and we’re just saying stuff because we’re adults. You want to know what a real crazy parent does?

Listen.

When I was 18 turning 19, I came “home” for the summer from uni. I had a good summer job. I was legally an adult. I thought I could go out and live my life a little, seeing as I was paying half the rent on the apartment, doing most of the chores and being responsible. Didn’t matter to my guardian. I wasn’t allowed out after 9, not while living with her. Her son, older than me, had “run from the asylum” a few years before. Well. One night, after I’d tuned 19 but before I went back to uni, I decided, f*#$ it, my friend’s band’s playing and I’m going to see them…

Mind you, I had been a dutiful “daughter” to this woman for 15 years at that point. She was the type to whup you out of bed for leaving a cup in the sink overnight, get me? I had obeyed this lady from the time the judge signed the papers giving her custody of me. I never rebelled. I kept her secrets. I fixed her meals, cleaned her house, been her therapist, wrote her resumes, ironed her clothes. And on this night, I called “home” and let her know that I would be seeing my friend’s band and that I would be in by 11pm. “Yeah, you go ahead and see your band” she snarled, “and I’ll see you when you get back.” It was the voice she used right before she’d ever hit me as a kid, so I knew what was coming, but I decided not to think about it and to enjoy myself. She’s a fundy Christian, so just listening to rock music in a bar and hanging out with boys is sinful in her opinion.

When I did get “home”, on time, she was waiting outside for me on the porch with her father’s old leather belt. Then she stomped over to my friend’s car, dragged me out of the back seat by my hair and started beating me in front of my friends. My so-called friends tore off like lightning. Once she shoved me into the flat, she still had my hair wrapped around her hand and was still hitting me, harder this time, though, because I hadn’t cried once, like I would have before. And then I stayed her hand and told her that she’d never hit me again. You ever see anyone’s eyes almost literally pop out of their head with rage? Then she had the nerve to try to hit me with her fist. I didn’t hit her back but she swung and missed. “You’ll never live in this house again!” And I told her “Damn right, I won’t.”

I never gave her another cent. We didn’t speak again until I went back to school two weeks later, but I came and went when I wanted to. She’d forced me to play by her rules with beatings and psychological intimidation for years and I was done. I haven’t spoken to this woman for a very long time, and I doubt I will ever speak to her again.

I don’t know if your parents do the sorts of things to you that my aunt did to me, but she was not a mentally or emotionally stable person. I hope they don’t, and if not, count your blessings. I say suck it up and try to talk to them again to them like the young adult you are becoming. As @daloon suggests, try to be kind. It’s hard for normal parents to let their children grow up, and it’s harder when the child still living in the parents’ house. You go to college and have a job and are otherwise responsible and they still won’t listen to you? Then make your plans and save your money now, and at 18, find a roommate and move out.

justus2's avatar

you are 17, if you run away in most states they won’t go looking for you, just don’t do stuff that will get you in trouble. You are probably almost 18 and you are definately old enough to do what you want, if you were 15 or 16 I would say try to get emancipated but you are almost 18 anyway, I would do what I wanted to anyway and if they tried to stop me I would run away at that age, lucky for me I moved out when I was 17 and a half and was allowed to do pretty much whatever I wanted my whole life

YARNLADY's avatar

Your parents would feel very sorry that you have demonstrated that you have not yet learned the lessons they have been trying to teach you, and they have failed to protect you from making the obvious mistakes that other’s your age make.

I have raised two sons and three grandsons (so far) and I have not been able to save any of them from making the mistakes I saw coming.

Maybe you can help prevent that from happening, yet again, but it doesn’t sound like it to me.

Tink's avatar

All parents are crazy. Yes ALL of you.

GeorgeWood's avatar

@Tink1113, how very true. It happens when you children turn into teenagers.

wundayatta's avatar

Ah @Tink1113, already, at your tender age you say this? Well, it’s true: we’re all crazy, but that’s not saying much, because everyone is crazy.

Is it crazy to disagree with you? Is it crazy to have another point of view than you do? Is it possible that people with more experience kind of lose any sense they ever might have had?

I forgot to say something in my comment above. After I described all the kids I knew who did things that most parents don’t want them to do, or are even against the law, I forgot to say that they all survived, and many—maybe even most—went on to have good jobs and families of their own.

Children can survive all kinds of horrendous things. Look at kids in Africa or the Middle East who survive war and being orphans from early ages—five or even younger. Of course, no parent wants their child to experience that level of pain. Also, that pain is not without consequences. It can make people have a fairly warped view of humanity for the rest of their lives.

If a girl gets raped, that often remains with them the rest of their lives. If drugs mess with your mind or bring on mental illness (LSD made one of my cousins predisposition for bipolar disorder turn into the real thing). If you get addicted to something like Meth or whatever, you can spend years trying to get out from its influence. You might suffer permanent physical consequences, like losing your teeth. Psychological consequences like losing friends and family.

Of course, no one believes they will get addicted. Everyone thinks they can handle it. Most people probably can, but if you have addiction in your family, beware. Another thing that is typical of teenagers is that they often rush into things, instead of taking it gradually. They think (as do many children) that they can do something perfectly the first time. (That particular idea can last until a person is thirty, forty, or more.)

When I was a kid, I thought I’d be able to do anything well the first time. Woodworking. Football. Any new skill. It took me ages to learn that I needed all kinds of practice before I could do it well. Most importantly, it took me ages to learn the value of patience.

The same thing applies to love, partying, drugs, or sex. If you are going to do these things, take it slowly. Work up to it. Allow yourself to make mistakes in more protected situations before venturing out into the adult world. If you are going to do drugs, it helps to have an experienced person lead you into it. They can help you do the right dosage, and they can be there to help if something bad happens. This is true of alcohol, too. It’s far better to learn about the impact of alcohol at your parents’ dinner table than it is to crash a frat party at age of fifteen, and do all those drinking games the first time you ever try it. That’s just asking for some guy to get you totally drunk and to fuck you. You have no idea how fast the drunk sensations will occur, even though it seems like nothing is happening at first. Unfortunately, once you’ve passed into passing out, it’s way too late to undrink it.

With all the changes—especially technological change, it can be easy to think that older people are way behind the times. Kids grow up handling technology for their parents these days, and this can make it appear like you know more than your parents, so they just don’t understand. Please don’t be fooled. Technology, including social technology (social networking sites) do pretty much the same things that high school did for your parents.

Now, having said all this, there are far too many parents, I believe, who refuse to prepare their kids for the reality of adulthood. They won’t talk about sex or drugs because they figure that what their children don’t know can’t hurt them. So kids end up experimenting on their own and then keeping it secret from their parents, supporting this lie that they are innocent and pure.

What can I say? Some parents think that if you know something you’ll have to try it. I think that the more you know, the more likely it is that you will not do dangerous things. You won’t be fooled by the glamor. It looks like fun—partying and drugs and sex. It looks like power—joining the armed services. It looks like independence, and doing whatever you want—moving out of your parent’s house. It looks really boring—getting a lot of education.

I’m afraid that the reality is often far different. Education is the single greatest predictor of financial success in our world. In the long run, it is far more important than independence or partying or drugs or sex. You’ll get to all those things. You can take it slowly. You don’t have to rush. If you focus on education, everything in your future will be so much easier.

It’s a lot of work: education. So is most of life. You can recover from not getting educated when you are young, as you can recover from many trips into hedonistic activities. But it could take you much longer, and you may have to suffer a lot more before things do get better.

It’s your life. You can do what you will. There will be consequences. The hardest thing to do is to look down the road and try to understand those consequences. That is something that it usually does take experience to understand. That’s what your parents are trying to tell you. So, if you do really try to understand the long term consequences of your behavior, you can take that into account in deciding what to do now. You will be happier in the long run if you do.

Darwin's avatar

My daughter is 17 and attends college part time, even while still in high school. She follows my rules because a) she lives in my house, b) my money pays for school, car insurance, food and school supplies, and c) because she knows I love her and want the best for her.

In contrast, whenever I visit my parents I follow their rules and make my children do the same even though I am a very long way from 17, support myself and my family, and have my own house in another town. I haven’t officially “lived at home” for more than 30 years, but when I am under their roof I follow their rules.

I suggest that as long as you live in your parents’ house you need to follow their rules, no matter what your age. The alternative is for you to take that job you have had for two years and use the income to pay for your own place and pay your own tuition and all your bills. Then you don’t need to follow their rules. However, I think you will find that it will be much harder than you think it will.

It is less than a year until you are a legal adult who can sign contracts such as leases on your own. I know when you were really little it seemed forever before Christmas or your birthday came, but you were able to wait then. It is the same now. Just wait! You will get to adult freedom when you are an adult.

justus2's avatar

@YARNLADY Sounds like your way of raising children isn’t the best if you have not been able to save any one of 5 of them….

Darwin's avatar

@justus2 – Some people just have to learn by doing and falling on their faces.

justus2's avatar

@Darwin my point was that she obviously didn’t learn the “right” way with the 1st, or 2nd, or 3rd, and so on

justus2's avatar

I think she should b allowed to go to raves and do whatever she wants, lucky for her she pretty much can in most states now and for sure in less than a year

YARNLADY's avatar

@justus2 Every parent gets to find out for herself that children will be hurt, no matter how hard you try to protect them, they will fall and skin their knee, they will fall in love with the wrong person, they will get fired from a job. There is absolutely nothing even the best parenting skills in the world can do to save them from life’s ups and downs.

valdasta's avatar

“Crazy overprotective” is YOUR opinion; I would need more details to form my own opinion of your parents. Protective is good: it means they care about you. You are in college, but commuting?

You are only a year away from being a legal adult – you can’t wait until then?

Do you have the means to run away? Can you support yourself?

Who is paying for your schooling? If your parents are paying for your education, I wouldn’t call that being ‘over protective’; they are granting you the tools for your future liberty.

It is natural for every young person, who is coming of age, to get anxious to leave the nest. It’s a part of maturity. I get nervous when I talk to guys in thier twenties who have no desire to leave home.

poofandmook's avatar

@valdasta: My ex (as of May) just turned 28 in July and has no desire to leave home. BLECH!!

valdasta's avatar

@EmpressPixie If she’s into ‘e’ and I were her father, she would find me to be more than crazy, but insanely overprotective.

valdasta's avatar

@poofandmook Your home (a play on words)...or were you living with his parents… or he’s back at mom and dads?

EmpressPixie's avatar

@valdasta: I remain firm in my opinion that it’s not being overprotective when there are drugs involved. It’s being normal protective.

poofandmook's avatar

@valdasta: He’s with mom and dad. He lived on his own for like 2 years but they paid his bills and sent him food, so it doesn’t really count. He moved back in with them, and has been there ever since. I stayed with them for 7 months while I was unemployed, but I got the HELL out and back into my own apartment as soon as I could! He’s still with them and has no ambition to move out at all.

justus2's avatar

@YARNLADY exactly my point, I don’t worry about my children falling down and skinning their knee, I will want my kids to do things like wakeboard, snowboard, ride dirtbikes and stuff, of course only if they want to, but they would have to get used to getting hurt a little sometimes to do that stuff. That is not my worry, I don’t want them using drugs other than smoking pot is fine, I will teach them alcohol is bad and so are cigarettes. I would also worry about them falling in with people who would try to turn them certain ways like my friends mom is so religious she doesn’t let her kids swim in sunday or wear 2 piece bathing suits, even her 22 yr old who is stil lat home because she has disabilities, I would never want them to think that their bodies are bad in any way.

YARNLADY's avatar

@justus2 So your comments are all about what you would do if you have children? Pardon me while I go offline and try not to laugh my head off.

ShanEnri's avatar

As a mother I can say they would worry! It would scare them badly and I hope that wouldn’t be your goal in doing this?!

seventeen123's avatar

@ShanEnri
– No, that’s the last thing I want to do.
They don’t deserve it & I believe in respecting your parents.
However, there’s a line & they have crossed it & that’s all that I want them to see.
The fact that every person needs some space to become an individual.

justus2's avatar

@yarnlady I already answered her question about what my parents would do and what I think, and then I talked about what I want to be like as a parent. What the hell is so funny about that?

justus2's avatar

And don’t all these other people realize, she is 17, she can do what she wants anyway and if she runs away in most places she would be legal. So locking her in the house is just plain ridicilous….....

ShanEnri's avatar

@seventeen123 As long as it isn’t going to scare them too badly, we as parents tend to be overprotective for a reason! I am overprotective and had to go to parenting classes because it drove both my kids to break the law! As long as you make your point without getting yourself into trouble or scaring your parents to death, then go for it! I wish my kids would have done it your way instead!

justus2's avatar

@yarnlady Also at least my thoughts on how to raise children haven’t been proven to fail on 5 already, as you have already stated!

wundayatta's avatar

If your parents are religious fundamentalists, and if you have mental health issues, I think you’d have to trust that being their daughter is something that would keep you together, even if you see the world very differently. You are all coming from very different places and very different beliefs. If they can’t come to see that you need medical assistance—I don’t know. Maybe there are social services that can help when parents don’t take care of their children properly? I think you’re in a really tough situation, and I’m not sure you can wait it out, either.

MissAusten's avatar

@justus2 Where did @YARNLADY say she “failed” at raising children? She just said she couldn’t prevent them from making mistakes. That’s not failure, that’s a fact of life.

I liked what you had to day about raising kids, but once you actually have that child, it’s much more difficult than you think. You may think smoking pot is fine, until it’s your baby and even when that baby is 17 he or she is still your baby. Heck, I used to think that when kids used swear words you should repeat the word to them and take the shock value away. When my daughter said “shit” one day as a toddler, there was no way in hell I could look into those big blue eyes and say “shit” back to her. I never had a problem with pot, but after we had kids a friend of ours brought some to our house. That was the day I learned what a complete prude I can be. Things change when you have kids, believe me.

YARNLADY's avatar

@MissAusten thanks for the clarification, you did read me correctly – I think @justus2 already knows everything there is to know about everything, just like we all did at that age.

justus2's avatar

@MissAusten That is what everyone tells me except my fiance, I think he knows better. I know a 12yr old and an 8yr old, we consider them like our kids and the only reason we don’t let them smoke pot and stuff is they aren’t our children, I imagine if they were mind and I know I wouldn’t have a problem with it. They don’t cuss because they think it is bad, but I wouldn’t get mad at them if they did, i would think it is cute. I know that for a fact also. I also never said it isn’t difficult, I just talked about my liberal viewpoints, and practice them as much as possible with the children we know. If my children want to smoke pot they can, as long as they are allowed to do unhealthy things like drink soda or eat a lot of chocolate and candy, they can smoke pot which has proven things it does good for us. They can say shit or fu** around me as long as it is not f*** you while they are angry or something, if they are saying it in fun I would laugh
@YARNLADY I never said I know everything, but I do know my views just like you know your blanket opinions

YARNLADY's avatar

@justus2 sorry, I was just being snarky. I try to avoid it, but this time I just couldn’t resist.

justus2's avatar

@YARNLADY Its OK i can tell by your responses that that’s just how you are. I expect it from people like you. And just for the record I didn’t say you failed as a parent.I said that my ways, have not been proven to fail, like yours have, to prevent them from making mistakes in life.
I have no delusions that i can prevent my children from making mistakes, in the first place, but you give the advise to people that you used yourself in the hopes to detour mistakes of their children.If it didn’t work for your children, then why would you expect it to work for others?

YARNLADY's avatar

@justus2 hope springs eternal

justus2's avatar

@YARNLADY thats good because we will need hope if we continue to raise this generation the way we did the last generation. just look at how my generation acts disrespectful and many down right mean. I don’t think i am too bad of a person in fact i am a good person. I believe that is because my parents did a great job raising me. i make mistakes but we all do.
when i say this is what I am going to do with my kids, that is because that is what my parents did with me. I see the results of their efforts.

bea2345's avatar

What is scary is that we parents make the same mistakes our parents made; if we are lucky, without too many bad consequences. And so on…

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