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What's so bad about Sarah Palin?

Asked by w2pow2 (490points) November 19th, 2009

Sarah Palin is a Far-right conservative problem. What makes this former governor so terrible?

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faye's avatar

If you have to ask…

dpworkin's avatar

I like her but she doesn’t have the chops for high office.

filmfann's avatar

She is an utter moron. She cannot speak for a short amount of time, and not begin to wander into ignorant positing. She is a joke.

rangerr's avatar

I don’t like her too much, but her grandbaby’s daddy is preeeety cute.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

She’s a nice enough person but completely unqualified for the Presidency.
She also abuses her position for personal gain which is not a favorable trait in any politician.

w2pow2's avatar

@The_Compassionate_Heretic How does she abuse her position? Has she abused it in the past?

holden's avatar

She has come to be one of the most recognizable faces of the Republican party, and she is batshit insane. Bad publicity.

PretentiousArtist's avatar

I thought this whole Sarah Palin thing was over…

ratboy's avatar

If she dined on human brains, she would be a zombie.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

@w2pow2 She has a problem with taking tax payer money and buying lavish gifts for her family and extended family. This has happened multiple times in Alaska. Certainly she’s not the first politician to do so but were this question about another political figure that abused their position, I wouldn’t hesitate to say the same.

avvooooooo's avatar

She’s an idiot that thinks she represents typical Americans. What’s worse is that some people think that she is a typical American as well. She’s corrupt, she’s petty and vindictive, she touts her family while being a horrible parent…

She sucks. And I hope she’s trampled by a moose.

asmonet's avatar

lol4rl. Trampled by a moose!

holden's avatar

@The_Compassionate_Heretic I was not aware of that. I didn’t realize I could have a lower opinion of her, but wow. What a fucking asshole.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

I love her assertion that she somehow knows about foreign policy because she can see Russia from her house.
I can see the moon from my house but that doesn’t make me an astronaut.

avvooooooo's avatar

@asmonet Well, I could say that I wish someone shot her dead on one of her campaign, er… book trips, but I believe in karma. So… Where’s the moose call?

filmfann's avatar

@The_Compassionate_Heretic but you ARE a Space Cadet!

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

@filmfann That doesn’t qualify me for public office either.

missingbite's avatar

@virtualist Are you really going to reference a blog as fact? Dig a little deeper and I think you will find that all of the accusations on ethics issues were dismissed. BTW, I realize the blog is referencing the AP, however blogs are usually one sided.

asmonet's avatar

@kevbo: Well, she said his name sorta right… +.01?

filmfann's avatar

I especially love how Rush and Hannity are bending over DEEP to kiss her stupid ass.

MissAusten's avatar

I just find her incredibly annoying. She doesn’t deserve the attention she gets, and she seems to be playing the McCain campaign’s bad decision to choose her as a running mate for all it’s worth. The interviews she gave during that campaign made it abundantly clear that she was out of her league, but she’ll be the last person to admit it. Palin sets my teeth on edge!

I thought once the elections were over she’d disappear, then I thought once she resigned as Alaska’s governor she’d disappear, and now I’m really, really hoping that once she’s milked this book deal dry she’ll disappear.

w2pow2's avatar

@The_Compassionate_Heretic Can you give some proof? A link perhaps?

J0E's avatar

For starters, there isn’t one thing I like about her…

kevbo's avatar

@asmonet, and a 9.5 for poise.

PandoraBoxx's avatar

Let’s start with quitting an elected office because it was starting to get difficult, move on to cannot string together a cogent sentence, to functionally illiterate and insulting to anyone who values education and free thought, and end with morally a member of the “do as I say, not as I do” camp.

My absolute favorite conservative Republican columnist is Kathleen Parker of the Washington Post. Her contention is that Palin is out of her league.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2009/06/09/AR2009060902596.html
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/10/06/kathleen-parker-palin-not_n_132316.html

Blondesjon's avatar

The fact that whether you love her or hate her you all still insist on talking incessantly about her. Sheesh.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

@w2pow2 I’m content to let you refute my statements.

w2pow2's avatar

@The_Compassionate_Heretic Why would I do that? I am simple concerning the subject.

asmonet's avatar

@kevbo: That kind of sass is just the reason I lurve you, dahling. :)

asmonet's avatar

@Blondesjon: You’re here too, dingus.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

It’s a healthy practice to research topics that counter a person’s own assumptions.

jeanna's avatar

@PretentiousArtist it was over until the moron decided to release a book. ugh. boy will 2012 be fun.

ragingloli's avatar

She’s dumb, ignorant, a liar (she’s the one who started the death panel crap), an office abuser and she supports shooting wolves out of helicopters, which in my book makes her immoral. Like a female Bush.

avvooooooo's avatar

@ratboy If she dined on human brains at least there’d be some brains in her.

virtualist's avatar

@missingbite She’ll be tied up in hearings and courts for years, which is ok with me. The reporting by AP, appropriately referenced by me , to create the list was appropriately referenced by the blog. That’s how blogs work. I do not care if she is found guilty. I am just waiting for her to show herself, in public hearings, to be the shallow , lying , bumbling person I believe she is.

missingbite's avatar

@virtualist We all know what blogs are. My point is they are almost always one sided. All I was saying is that most if not all of the ethics charges have been dismissed. Some of the ethics charges were even filed by a liberal blogger named Linda Kellen Biegel. I really don’t have an opinion on if Sarah Palin could make it in the big leagues or not. I do feel that the hatred toward her for her views is amusing.

avvooooooo's avatar

@missingbite We don’t hate her for her views. We don’t hate her because she’s pretty. We hate her because she’s an idiot who makes America look bad.

missingbite's avatar

@avvooooooo How is she an idiot? She ran the largest state in the United States and had a positive overall approval rating.

virtualist's avatar

I guess this is the new, improved Sarah Palin.

“But even a friendly interview can be treacherous. In a sit-down with Fox News’ Sean Hannity Wednesday night, the former Alaska governor confused Iraq and Iran several times. Asked about how to prevent Iran from getting nuclear weapons, Palin responded by suggesting we get tough with Iraq:

“We have allies who are as concerned about Ahmadinejad’s actions as we are,” she said. “Cutting off the imports into Iraq, of their refined petroleum products. They’re reliant… on those imports. We have some control over there. And some of the beneficial international monetary deals that Iraq benefits from, we can start implementing some sanctions there and start really shaking things up and telling Ahmadinejad, nobody is going to stand for this.” From 20091118 Huffington Post

missingbite's avatar

I’d hardly call her an idiot for a slip of the tongue over what amounts to one letter. Iran Iraq. N/Q.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpGH02DtIws
Let’s not call him an idiot.

Full discloser, she may not know the difference between Iran and Iraq but a lot of people think we should impose sanctions on Iran. Just like she was saying but using the name Iraq.

avvooooooo's avatar

@missingbite Large in land mass only. It is far from being a populous place. She ran the state poorly and corruptly and nobody really knew how badly until all eyes were on her. She is ignorant, functionally illiterate, and cannot express herself coherently. She is incapable of making sense when speaking unless she’s reading off of cue cards with a speech that someone else wrote. She embraces her lack of knowledge and intelligence and labels it as a part of her being typical American. It took her several years and several colleges to get a bachelor’s degree in Journalism. She believes the propaganda that she’s fed and comes up with herself without evidence without questioning. She is, in fact, an idiot.

The thing about Iraq and Iran is that she does not know the difference between the two. She thought, until she was told otherwise, that Africa was a country. God only knows how deep her ignorance runs since we only see it when she’s on camera. She might even think that the sun revolves around the earth. Who knows. The point is that there are many, many things that she is ignorant of and she has no desire to remedy that. Which makes her even more of an idiot.

virtualist's avatar

@avvooooooo <sigh of relief> There is no remedy !

PandoraBoxx's avatar

@missingbite, I would imagine that one letter makes a difference to the people of Iraq or Iran…

augustlan's avatar

<shudders at the very mention of her name>

avvooooooo's avatar

@augustlan Its your idiot-dar going off big time. Like a seismic event.

mammal's avatar

She was onced referred to as a national disgrace, that would be a kind assessment, she like, Bush and Reagan is the unapologetic, unrepentant face of America, as opposed to Obama. She represents that hideous generation of bourgois woman who think empowerment is driving an oversized tank like vehicle in order to battle their way through the mean streets of Suburbia to get their disgustingly spoilt, moody, ipod implanted brats to school, soccer practice, band practice, shopping practice or whatever.

avvooooooo's avatar

@mammal You forgot the whole not telling kids about sex because if they don’t know about it, they obviously won’t do it.

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Jeruba's avatar

Newsweek’s cover story writer this week does not think it far-fetched that the GOP will nominate her in 2012.

virtualist's avatar

@Jeruba That is so perfect, if eventually that materializes. There is no remedy for her generic idiocy and she may be so attractive to the GOP as to be nominated in 2012.

galileogirl's avatar

@w2pow2 Let;s start back when Ms Palin was a small town mayor and an up and coming Republican politician. Most of the supplies and a lot of the labor for her new home was donated by Apenard Builders Supplies which also sponsored Todd’d competitive snowmobile team. It’s nice to have such genorous friends and I am sure it had nothing to do with the fact that Mayor Palin got a $12 million sports building passsed in little Wassilla (pop 4,000) and SBS was awarded the no-bid contract. BTW Ted Stevens was covicted of corruption for a similar relationship with SBS

http://chattahbox.com/us/2009/07/04/does-sarah-palin-have-a-ted-stevens-problem-federal-indictments-may-be-imminent/

avvooooooo's avatar

I think after four years there’s no surer way to ensure Democratic victory than to nominate Palin in 2012. No matter what happens in the next 4 years.

galileogirl's avatar

Unfortunately there were similar sentiments in Germany in 1932 when most people thought Herr Hitler was just a right wing extremist poseur.

He had written a book about his struggle, too.

Jeruba's avatar

Here’s the quote:

“President Obama is no doubt happy to have her out there on display. He cannot help but relish the prospect, no longer farfetched, that the Republicans will nominate Palin to oppose his reelection in 2012.” [“Gone Rogue,” by Evan Thomas. Newsweek, November 23, 2009, page 28.]

Here’s what the magazine cover itself says, alongside a full-length yearbook-style shot of Sarah posed in a red jersey, little black shorts, and athletic shoes, leaning with one elbow on an American flag:

“HOW DO YOU SOLVE A PROBLEM LIKE SARAH?
SHE’S BAD NEWS FOR THE GOP—AND FOR EVERYBODY ELSE, TOO.

rooeytoo's avatar

The whole time Bush was in office I was embarrassed to tell people I was American. He projected such an aura of stupidity, his mispronunciation of words, his total inability to say anything intelligent when he spoke extemporaneously. It was sad.

If Palin would ever get elected, I would be back in that boat again.

I can’t imagine it could happen, course I would have bet my life that Bush couldn’t possibly be reelected for a second term!

dpworkin's avatar

@avvooooooo If she dined on human brains at least thereā€™d be some brains in her.

The laugh-out-loud answer of the day. Thanks.

gemiwing's avatar

Everytime she inhales there’s a slight pause- then out comes utter and complete bullshit

PandoraBoxx's avatar

This is probably enough reason right here. At the time she did this, she was still the governor of a state. If a male governor did this, he would be labeled a buffoon.

During the election, I mostly followed blogs and news articles coming out of Alaska as a source for information about Palin. Alaskans seemed to have reached the conclusion that she was not fit to govern way before the election.

Harp's avatar

She’s G. W. Bush in a prettier package. Her appeal rests entirely in her ability to pepper her otherwise incoherent speech with the keywords that trigger a pavlovian response in W’s old base, all while looking great.

I don’t hate her. I didn’t hate George, either. They just don’t belong in jobs that require actual reflection.

MissAusten's avatar

@PandoraBoxx Now I know what to get my dad for Christmas! I find it interesting that she has complained about media attention on her children, and yet she includes photos of them in her book and in the calendar linked to above. Does she want them in the spotlight, or out of it? Will she ever make up her mind, or does she just like to use them when it serves her purpose?

galileogirl's avatar

@rooeytoo You don’t have to tell anyone you’re American. Your alert expression and pointy ears give you away.

avvooooooo's avatar

@pdworkin You’re welcome. :)

w2pow2's avatar

@galileogirl I’d like you to meet Neville CHamberlain, former Prime Minister of Great Britain.
Neville had a problem- He was too left and therefore didn’t have a backbone. He preferred negotiations and diplomacy rather than military action.
After hearing of Nazi Germany’s plan to invade Czechoslovakia, Neville dashed to Germany to avoid this catastrophe. After a promise of peace and co-operation, Neville sold out Czechoslovakia. He returned to Britain and told the citizens that the catastrophe had been avoided.
Later after World War II, the OKW (Oberkommando De Wermacht) documents were recovered. The documents stated that if ANY of the western allies had put so much as a MARCHING BAND on the bridge leading into the Rhineland, Hitler would have turned his armies around and gone home.
Countless lives lost because of a left-winger who preferred diplomacy and negotiations over action.
You’re claim about the right-wing party shows your prejudice and hatred so clearly.
I must go now. I’ll comment later.

avvooooooo's avatar

How did I know this is a question with an unstated agenda until just now? Oh yeah, its about Sarah Palin. The only people defending her are those who believe in the evils of Democrats, democracy, diplomacy and anything else that makes sense.

dpworkin's avatar

@w2pow2 You have really swallowed the KoolAid, haven’t you. Now Obama is Neville Chamberlain? Read a history book instead of party-line propaganda. Where is your citation about the so-called OKW documents from? Put up or shut up.

galileogirl's avatar

@w2pow2 I am a history teacher, What I was pointing out has nothing to do with other countries’ responses to Hitler, it had to do with discounting, by the German politicos and voters,. the ability of a boorish neophyte or to think a radical could never win over the mainstream. Before 1932 (the date I referred to) Hiler was the head of a minority party not a real political player. I don’t know why you even brought up Chamberlain, he didn’t become PM until 1937.

I’m just saying history tells us we can’t discount politicians we think are idiots, we’ve elected a lot of idiots to high office

ragingloli's avatar

@w2pow2
First of all, Chamberlain was a conservative.
Secondly, I would like to see those documents.

dpworkin's avatar

Or just a reference to them from Hugh Trevor-Roper would do. I have been a scholar of this period for 20 years, and I have a massive library, and this piece of business is news to me. I’d love to discover how I missed it.

w2pow2's avatar

@pdworkin Did I ever even come close to suggesting that Obama was Chamberlain? Where did the Obama comment come from?
@avvooooooo Really? Has it really come down to that? Your pre-judgmental accusations are not only wrong, they’re disgusting. You put everything in a little box so that you can understand it, as so many of us are guilty of. Don’t worry, I won’t associate you with the entirety of the Liberal/Democrat Party.
@pdworkin ‘party line propaganda’? So in your mind, you already shun the possibility of any existence of said documents? My friend, you are truly free of any bi-est content.
Well I’m not a history teacher, or a self-proclaimed ‘scholar’. I’m an 18 year old who is struggling to get through his senior year in high school.
@galileogirl The dates line up perfectly! You’re going to try to attack that?! Please explain yourself.
Fluther: Where hatred for the right-wing party is not only welcomed, it is embraced. But hatred for the left-wing party… Well the democrat haters must be an enemies of American democracy and freedom.
So my fellow Flutherites, let us unite together to call all the right-wing presidents a bunch of war-mongering baby killers, and shun the very idea of questioning presidents like Barrack Obama or Jimmy Carter.
This is Fluther. This is the Future. Where if you don’t step in-line with the democratic party, you are a stain that needs to be cleansed.
Let the cleansing begin.
I’ll look high and low for those documents. But first tell me- do you think that these documents do not exist?

dpworkin's avatar

@w2pow2 I have been studying this issue for much longer than you have been alive, and have never encountered these so-called documents. Also, since you are demonstrably incorrect in other matters, such as your assertion that Neville Chamberlain was a left-winger, I do think it is your obligation to provide proof that the documents you quote do, indeed, exist.

galileogirl's avatar

@w2pow2 What are you talking about? Either you are answering a different thread or you are actually Glenn Beck on a stream of consciousness rant.

Take a deep breath and your meds and follow me:

1. ! remark we cannot ignore a “rogue” politician just because their platform is extreme, using the example of Hitler’s seminal year 1932.

2. You respond with unrelated statements about Neville Chamberlain.

3. I point out you are not being responsive to my post either politically or chronilogically so wtf do you mean.

4. You answer that 1932 is the same as 1937 and intimate that I am both a Nazi hater and a Democratic hater. Then you make a call to arms against right wing baby killers.

Can you see why you have to take the thorazine, kiddo?

dpworkin's avatar

Now, now, we don’t want to give him tardive dyskenisia. There are better neuroleptics.

avvooooooo's avatar

@w2pow2 As you can see, I reserved public judgment until you proved me right. What’s disgusting is people who think their way is the only way and everyone who isn’t just like them is wrong. That is the little box that I rather think you’re living in. You, who are barely an adult, think you know everything. You are sorely, sorely mistaken.

If you would listen to anything you would hear that it is the prerogative of the right wing to call anything the lefties are doing un-American and not the other way around. The left wing people don’t tend to stoop to that particular low.

w2pow2's avatar

@galileogirl The reason I went off on the Neville Chamberlain rant was because you associated Hitler with being a right-winger, showing your prejudice and hatred for the right-wing.
And I was commenting on how ridiculously left Fluther is. I think it was @pdworkin that called Ronald Reagan a “crypto-racist” a “homophobe”, a “liar”, and, most importantly, a “senile piece of shit motherfucker.”
He said that about a President of the United States! And one that brought about an end to the Cold War!
And what was the response to that outrageous comment? The other Flutherites actually welcomed it!
I would be insulted if anybody said that about any president, no matter who he is!
You people are so high and knowledgeable, looking down on what you perceive to be an ignorant kid, that in your mind, your own hatred and prejudice is justified! Have you no humility?
Your right about one thing, I did put my foot in my mouth when I said that Neville was a right-winger. I didn’t research that before I posted it. My mistake. It just comes to show that you can’t play the ‘party game’. There are right-wingers that prefer diplomacy and negotiations over military intervention and Left-wingers who are the opposite. For example, Lyndon B Johnson took us into the Vietnam War. He also gave the green light on Operation Rolling Thunder, which was obviously immoral by anyone’s standards.
@avvooooooo Your comments are the equivalent of ‘ha! You think you know everything! Now let me tell you how it really is! You see, you don’t know everything, I know everything!’
I didn’t go on Fluther so I could convince people to convert to my way of thinking, I went on Fluther so that I could learn. I didn’t know any of that stuff about Sarah Palin until you guys pointed it out.
“The only people defending her are those who believe in the evils of Democrats, democracy, diplomacy and anything else that makes sense.”
Can you see your own prejudice? Can you see that small box?
Ok, now that were done with verbal fist-fight, can we get back to discussing the newly-evolved topic at hand?
@pdworkin You’re right, the burden of proof is on me. I said I would look high and low for it, but your comments suggest that you strongly believe no such documents exists. Is that what you think?

avvooooooo's avatar

@w2pow2 If you can’t see how you’re going off and revealing yourself more than anyone else here, there’s nothing anyone can say to help you.

I don’t know everything, but I recognize that and don’t go off on people while spouting things that are patently untrue.

w2pow2's avatar

I expressed my discontentment about @pdworkin calling a former President of the United States all those names.
I acknowledged that I incorrectly stated that Neville was a Left-winger.
I pointed out that I was wrong to play the ‘party game’.
I tried to point out your own prejudice to you.

Consider me revealed…

Now can we focus more on those documents? Let’s move forward, shall we?

avvooooooo's avatar

@w2pow2 You’re calling everyone who doesn’t agree with you prejudiced. Then you turn around and show yours. I didn’t judge your question until you showed all too clearly why it was asked. Your prejudice is showing, but you’re trying to pretend its that of everyone else.

It doesn’t fly.

dpworkin's avatar

What do you care what I think about the documents? If you can prove they exist I will believe you. As far as Reagan is concerned, he may not have been a piece of shit or a motherfucker, those are mere matters of opinion. But it is absolutely true that he was a homophobe, a racist, a liar and senile. You could look it up.

filmfann's avatar

@pdworkin you left out heretic. He did a lot of things based on Astrology.
Regarding his lies: even his daughter wrote about how stunned she was with the ease he lied.

Dog's avatar

[Mod Says:] Lets keep it on topic folks. The question is “What’s so bad about Sarah Palin?”
Any off-topic or personal remarks will be removed.

galileogirl's avatar

OK What;s so bad about Sarah Palin is that she attracts adherents who think Hitler was a liberal

avvooooooo's avatar

Sarah Palin attracts people who think that diplomacy isn’t the answer for anything. Sarah Palin attracts people who believe science is evil. Sarah Palin attracts those who want to believe every evil possible from people who aren’t just like them. Not only does she attract all these people (and more), she encourages them.

filmfann's avatar

Sarah Palin quits as Governor, then asks the press to “stop makin’ up stuff”, in honor of the soldiers. Then, she makes up stuff about death panels. Even McCain’s people are now calling her a liar.

avvooooooo's avatar

@filmfann Plus she has a degree in journalism… nuts.

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rooeytoo's avatar

Her biggest problem is that she looks just like Sally Fields in the Flying Nun!

Aethelwine's avatar

What’s so bad about Sarah Palin?

She brings out the worst in people. is she really that big of a threat for such hatred?

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augustlan's avatar

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mattbrowne's avatar

I think she’s extremely dangerous and hope she never reappears on the national stage. There are very few people who are more ignorant than Sarah Palin. Worst of all are her views that sex education isn’t a good idea and that schools should both teach evolution and creationism.

galileogirl's avatar

Catch the SNL video about the film 2012. Sarah Palin becomes president and then all hell breaks loose Tidal waves overwhelm the White House, volcanos destroy the West,the Rio Christos crumbles-a total hoot. Some Republicans see it as the world falling apart and Sarah coming to save it

http://videos.mediaite.com/video/Saturday-Night-Live-Disaster-Mo

avvooooooo's avatar

@mattbrowne Oh yeah. Not being educated about sex worked out so well for the Palin family.

mattbrowne's avatar

I can’t imagine the Republican party being so foolish in 2012. I mean they got some reasonable and educated people who could be nominated.

galileogirl's avatar

@mattbrowne Don’t you think the current stance of mindless obstructionism and blatant, organized calumnies are signs of utter foolishness? I don’t think anybody is seriously looking to Olympia Snow (currently the only reasonable Republican) as the 2012 candidate.

mattbrowne's avatar

Bashing fruit fly research in 2008 really did it. I couldn’t believe what I was reading. How can the most innovative country in the word pick a complete ignorant fool like Sarah Palin as a vice president candidate? Portraying scientists as a complete bunch of idiots because they waste valuable tax dollars on fruit fly research. Palin really declared war on science as a whole with her remarks. It really shows the danger of creationist thinking seeing evolution as a hoax.

Maybe we should tell Palin this: Do you know what happens if you take the ‘build an eye’ switch-on gene of a mouse and insert it into a defective fruit fly genome without that gene? Palin will probably not believe this but the fruit fly with the mouse gene will construct eyes. This is how we are all related. The potential for humans studying fruit fly genes is enormous. Scientists do this research for a reason. Making fun of this disqualifies a politician to run for an important office. If Palin tries again in 2012, I would hope the Democrats will have a field day. I would ask all fruit flies in the US to invade Alaska and scare Palin so much that her ambition gets limited to shooting wolves.

http://www.salon.com/env/feature/2008/10/27/sarah_palin_fruit_flies/

LKBiegel's avatar

@missingbite “Some of the ethics charges were even filed by a liberal blogger named Linda Kellen Biegel.”

ONE AND ONLY ONE of the ethics complaints was filed by a liberal blogger. Approx. 18 of the 22 complaints were filed by REGISTERED REPUBLICANS OR NON-PARTISANS.

Also, THREE of those complaints are still outstanding…one regarding her “Legal Defense Fund” which is actually a trust fund that has nothing to do with legal defense.

http://divasblueoasis.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=744

The investigator told her she would potentially be violating the Executive Ethics Act if she touched any of the money and she should get rid of it. According to the Act, they should have either 1) revealed a settlement between the State and Palin or 2) Brought her before a hearing. Either action would have to be revealed to the public. The corrupt Personnel Board has done neither. Folks were always scared of her up here because she was full of vengeful vindictiveness. Her book has proven that even more since she was willing to waste a national platform on getting back at those of us Alaskans she perceives as enemies (My pages are 371, 72).

To read more about where the Alaska Fund Trust complaint stands:

http://divasblueoasis.com/showDiary.do?diaryId=905

avvooooooo's avatar

@LKBiegel Welcome to fluther. Lurve. :)

missingbite's avatar

Miss Biegel, Welcome to Fluther. I have read a lot on Sarah Palin and as I have stated before in this thread, I don’t have much of an opinion on Sarah Palin on the national scene. She may or may not have what it takes. I will take up for her or anyone else that has hatred thrown their way. (I am not saying you are doing that.) I hope that you will stick around on Fluther. If you do, you will see that it is very liberal leaning. From what I have read of your blog you should fit right in.

As for 18 of the 22 complaints filed being by Republicans or Non-partisans, I don’t hold much faith in a name or association. I am a registered Democrat. I guess you could call me a DINO.

My feelings on Sarah Palin, which is what the question started out as, (What is so bad about Sarah Palin?) is that she is not as bad as most people on Fluther try to make her. People associate her with the devil and Hitler. I feel she is VERY green on the National Scene and is making a lot of mistakes. People on here have stated that she can’t do anything without a speech in front of her but fail to mention that our President screws up every time he speaks without a tele-prompter.

Some people, no matter which side they are on, have a hatred for people that don’t agree with their point of view. I find that non-productive. Sarah Palin may be one of those people, that has yet to be determined. (In my opinion)

Anyway, welcome to Fluther! I think you will enjoy the community. I know I do.

mattbrowne's avatar

@missingbite – I agree. She’s not a devil. And comparing her with Hitler is totally foolish. The huge problem really is her ignorance, her lack of education, her distrust of professional scientists, like the ones doing research on fruit flies. The best qualified people should become President or Vice President. We’ve got so many problems to solve in the 21st century.

avvooooooo's avatar

Oh, its her fault that the price of ammo has skyrocketed. Palin, with her support of the “Obama will take away your guns” groups, has caused a shortage in ammunition which is driving prices up in some places and causing unavailability in others. Hunters, thy enemy is Palin.

galileogirl's avatar

@mattbrowne If you are referring to my answer I wasn’t comparing Sarah Palin to Hitler, my point is you can’t just dismiss someone with political aspirations because you think they are incompetent or so far beyond the pale that they cannot gain a majority.Most voters don’t make well thought out logical choices, rather a single image or a phrase taken out of context can sway them.

dpworkin's avatar

Now that Huckabee has self-destructed, ironically because he actually applies deeply held Christian convictions to social ills, he will be replaced by the faux-Christian and heedless Palin, who will Goldwaterize her party without having been, as the actual Goldwater was, thoughtful, consistent and philosophically coherent.

Jeruba's avatar

That’s one pithy sentence, @pdworkin. GA.

galileogirl's avatar

Slightly off topic but although I never supported or agreed with Huckabee, I respected him for his sincerity. By destroying him for paroling a man who had spent 20 years in jail is as bad as the Willie Horton case. Governors don’t make these decisions on their own and if a man changes during 2 decades in prison and is recommended for release by the experts who see him every day, that is a good thing. Otherwise we might as well lock up every criminal 16 yo nd throw away the key, there is no hope for redemption.

mattbrowne's avatar

@galileogirl – Thanks for the clarification !

prince's avatar

@missingbite I think making the assertion that 18 people at a state-level position would be registered as one party but have a contrary political agenda is a bit outlandish.

And while Mr. Obama is not nearly as eloquent when he’s impromptu, comparing the oratory skills of the two is laughable.

Regarding Ms Palin: It’s the hatred thing; the deep-seated frustration and fear that I see in my brother, sister, and father manipulated very calculatedly into hatred by her. It’s the outright lies she spoke on the campaign trail. It’s the lack of any rigor or responsibility in discourse. She is the manifestation of all that is wrong and dangerous about a neo-conservative movement that goes much beyond any productive political discourse.

filmfann's avatar

No one has mentioned this week’s New Yorker article, which refers to Palin’s racism. According to the article, Palin went to College in Hawaii, but returned home after a bit because she couldn’t stand all the Asians and Pacific Islanders that surrounded her.

Here is a source , which says that came from her father!

mattbrowne's avatar

@filmfann – Shocking. How could McCain pick a racist vice president candidate? Because I think McCain no matter what weaknesses he might have, is not a racist. He’s an honorable man who got carried away during his campaign allowing his staffers to portray Obama as a Muslim, because they thought it would give them extra votes.

galileogirl's avatar

Ms Palin was chosen for her demographic not for her ability to serve as VP. Senator McCain listened to his advisors instead of his own instincts on way too many things.

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