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Do you think that Sting Operations are justice or entrapment?

Asked by Shatzee (750points) December 12th, 2009

I asked this same question on Answerbag right before the changes and was not able to get very many responses. I have an essay I have to write on this topic for one of my college courses and was wondering if I could get people’s opinions. Do you think that Sting Operations are justice or entrapment. Why?

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dpworkin's avatar

It depends on the way they are crafted. If they passively allow someone to commit a crime, I think they are fine (Example: leaving a purse open as a decoy on a subway.)

If, however, they entice someone to commit a crime they would not otherwise have committed (FBI stooges riling people up to break laws in support of political beliefs) I believe they are entrapment.

King_of_Sexytown's avatar

They say justice. I’m not so sure. The way they go about it seems legal but when you go out looking for problems it seems like it’s only making problems where there were none. Let’s take prostitution… had the cop not been there the dude might not have stopped. Plus if STDs had never existed I wouldn’t even have a problem with prostitution. I am not doing it and it’s only my business what other people do when they are hurting me or breaking in or something. Cops have a way of blowing things way out of proportion i.e. marijuana. If you ask me I honestly think it is a way to be able to charge people with crimes and make the legal system money for stuff. But that’s just my opinion.

HighShaman's avatar

I believe that whatever works to catch the thieves , crooks, bad guys etc… that law Enforcement should use it and do it .

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Fact from fiction, truth from diction. I believe in most cases it is just wrong. It is little better than offering deals to those who might have a lot of blood on their hands just to get at the major shot caller. The decoy stuff, the bait car, hit man schemes etc I think go too far. If a guy expresses the ideal of killing his ex and goes seeking a hit man and a cop poses as that hit man that is one thing. It a man who is very violent and beat his ex is approached by a fake cop hit man to see if he would take the bait to hire a hit man, then that would be wrong. Now being in a neighborhood where there is a lot of crime and you set up a dummy pawn shop to see if crooks will come try to unload goods there is one thing, it is another if you go into that neighborhood and say you will accept goods no questions asked in a tacit way of saying “even if you stole it you will get top dollar here” then wrong. Same way as infiltrating gangs and going along with, or helping them carry out illegal dealings just to collect evidence down the road.

UScitizen's avatar

Almost always entrapment. Poor law enforcement.

1858Remington's avatar

Hey there Shatzee :-) It’s nothing more than entrapment. :-D

DrBill's avatar

It is justice, an honest person will not break the law even if tempted.

master_mind413's avatar

it is justice if it was there intent to break a law and get caught up in the sting then they were going to break the law any way it is not entrapment

stratman37's avatar

Yeah, we should just call the bad guys and tell ‘em we’re on the way.

woodcutter's avatar

many criminals are so clever that they won’t be brought down unless they are tempted to do something illegal by undercover cops. Like setting up a phony drug deal to get names and more evidence involving other future crimes. It’s really pompous on the part of the criminally inclined to think they can operate with impunity and never get caught. They all get caught.

stratman37's avatar

crime doesn’t pay, and kids, stay in school (like THAT’S gonna help!)

SoulSearcher's avatar

Justice, if you weren’t doing anything wrong in the first place, why would you claim entrapment? Besides that entrapment keeps a lot of kids out of the hands of would be pedophiles. Have to look at the up side of things.

King_of_Sexytown's avatar

@SoulSearcher That’s not necessarily true. I almost went to jail this past summer over something I didn’t do and some may even view how I got in that situation in the first place as entrapment.

SoulSearcher's avatar

@King_of_Sexytown I went to prison for something I did not do but I still think in many cases, entrapment is the only way to get justice. I guess it all depends on the type of case and circumstance.

King_of_Sexytown's avatar

@SoulSearcher I disagree. They have other methods for catching criminals that are just fine. When you resort to entrapment you wind up with people like me who get royally fucked over something that would never have happened had they not been out to entrap people in the first place.

SoulSearcher's avatar

@King_of_Sexytown What type of entrapment was involved?

YARNLADY's avatar

I hate lying and cheating by law enforcement. When they tell people they have won a free TV and then arrest them on outstanding warrants it makes me sick. When they say you can talk without a lawyer it borders committing a crime.

Cooldil17's avatar

@woodcutter correction, they do not all get caught in fact most of them are still out there, screw the police and their ridiculous practices

@HighShaman you would believe in this, you the one who calls the cops on others while they are using their phone while driving, maybe you need to learn a little bit more about entrapment

King_of_Sexytown's avatar

@SoulSearcher They started it by falsely suspending my drivers license over some accident that happened in 2006 and not even telling me about it. I got caught driving with a supposedly suspended license and they tried to charge me with it. They claimed that I had failed to make my last payment on tickets from the accident even though I had the receipts to prove I had. I proved that I had paid with the receipts and they made me pay a $100 reinstatement fee. Upon payment of the $100 they said they would drop the charge. They reduced it instead and the end punishment involved me either going to jail for a week and a half or having a month of house arrest I couldn’t afford. I borrowed, asked for, and sold things and somehow came up with the money to pay for house arrest. All over some missing file on a payment that I had actually made the whole time.

SoulSearcher's avatar

@King_of_Sexytown Wow dude that sucks, but that really isn’t what I would call entrapment, more of a recording error that you got fucked over. I am pro entrapment when it comes to certain types of criminals and have even helped to entrap a couple. I am not speaking about traffic and past due child support warrants. Have you considered a civil action against the court that made the recording error in the first place?

King_of_Sexytown's avatar

@SoulSearcher Well they say entrapment cos of the court’s lack of notification to let me know I was suspended. This could have been fixed in a day had I known. But I didn’t so I drove for almost 3 years on a suspended license cos of it. Also why would they reduce instead of drop a charge when I had already proven it was a mistake and no crime had even truly been commited?? Cos my license was wrongfully suspended and I proved it. So there was no crime.

SoulSearcher's avatar

@King_of_Sexytown That was one question I was wondering about, why reduce the charge instead of dropping it? Did you have a lawyer representing you? You shouldn’t have had any charge and shouldn’t have had to pay a reinstatement fee if it was an error. Unless it had something to do with whatever they pulled you over for.

woodcutter's avatar

@Cooldil17 I suppose that might almost explain the nearly empty federal prisons here in the states

john65pennington's avatar

In Tennessee, there are no entrapment laws. i use to sit on an entrance ramp to a busy divided four-lane highway in my police car and clock motorists with lasar radar. i was in plain view of everyone. i was not hidden in any way. the speed limit is 45 mph and i gave 20 mph over the speed limit, before stopping a speeder. stop to think about that. 66 in a 45 mph zone. this highway is an open stretch of open road, straight road for 1.5 miles and many drivers “let er rip” on this road. the fastest speeder caught was 124 mph. my point is this: how could any speeder complain entrapment in this situation? several did, but they lost their case. and giving 20 mph over the posted speed limit should have been a gift and no complaints from the speeders. yet, some did complain about entrapment and again, they lost.

People complain that stings are entrapment. how can this be if a person is violating the law intentionally(like soliciting for prostitution)? how can this be if a person is buying stolen property and thieves are selling the property to him/her in plain view? its not entrapment, its the police doing their job.

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