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Have you ever been stopped by the police force of a large US city for DWW, driving while white?

Asked by UScitizen (4306points) December 13th, 2009

We have all been exposed to the (alleged) news media desciptions of how minority persons are stopped and checked by the police. My experience, a black police force (Memphis) stops me (repeatedly) because I am white, and in the “wrong” place. After this unlawful delay, interrogation, search, frisk, I’ve been released. Anyone have thoughts about this?

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_Jade_'s avatar

I don’t think so…I think when I am stopped, (which I rarely am) it’s mostly for speeding….and I am usually…okay..always guilty. ;-)

mellow_girl's avatar

lol, no. cant say i have. everytime i was pulled over it was for speeding and one time i rolled thru a stop sign, but i was guilty…

Haleth's avatar

The “alleged” treatment of minorities by police? Oh, come on.

UScitizen's avatar

No… read again… the “alleged” news media. They make it up as they go, for ratings and, mind control

majorrich's avatar

Once on a trip my family and I got lost in D.C. and ended up in a very unsavory neighborhood. I think we were about to get stopped for being there, but not by police. We did a u-turn in an intersection and blew through every stop sign until we could see the signs to get back on the freeway.

UScitizen's avatar

I had a simialr experince in Gary, IN. Wrong place, wrong time, wrong race. I ran several red lights finding my way out of there.

Haleth's avatar

@majorrich Ha, that happened to me in Baltimore. Me, my mom, my grandmother, and my sister were dressed up for a dinner party on the Johns Hopkins campus. My mom was driving and my grandmother had the map, and they made a uniquely horrible team. My mom kept taking the wrong turns, and my grandmother was the worst navigator. She’d do stuff like shriek, “You were supposed to turn!” “Where?” “BACK THERE!” We got there, but… yeesh. Most of DC is actually pretty safe now. It’s turning into a great big starbucks-froyo-microbrewed-yoga studio.

@UScitizen The police are well within their rights to stop you if you’re running several red lights. Nobody is a perfect driver; it’s impossible to go your whole life without getting stopped. It sounds more like every time you are stopped by a black officer, you cry racism and refuse to think that you may have done something wrong. You seem to have a major chip on your shoulder about this, which doesn’t make any sense. White people make up about 70–80% of the American population. If we assume that the proportions of police officers reflect the general population, you have a way bigger chance of running across a white officer than a black officer. Likewise, if a black officer wanted to discriminate against white people by writing them tickets, he or she would be looking at having to stop 7 out of 10 drivers that went by… they would have to stop almost every driver out there. It’s a lot more likely that you’re scared / angry when you have to drive in a neighborhood where there are a lot of minorities, so you drive like shit when you’re there. Like running several red lights to get out of a neighborhood.

randomness's avatar

Personally, no I haven’t. I have heard of it happening though.

There will always be jerk cops who stop people because of their race, or because of something else irrelevant. To them blacks/whites/hispanics/women/men/asians/whatever are different, and therefore inferior. They like to use their power over you to “stick it to you”, as if YOU are the person who has wronged them, or as if YOUR race/gender/whatever is responsible for their problems. They do it because they are insecure bullies who cannot properly deal with their problems.

KitKat's avatar

There are bullies who will abuse their power in all walks of life.

jca's avatar

yes i have. in the Bronx, about 20 years ago: i have a friend who smoked PCP/Angel Dust. I drove her down the Bronx to cop it, and the cops pulled us over. They said “what are two white girls doing in this neighborhood?” Long story short, they told us “Go back to Yonkers.” (we were from Yonkers). i had on tight jeans that i had unbuttoned, and she had the dust in her bra. they had called us over to their car (would never happen like that today) and i was buttoning my jeans, which probably didn’t look good. Then we were leaning into their car and i could smell the dust coming up from her bra. luckily they didn’t smell it and after a bunch of explaining we were on our way.

i am still friends with that girl, and she is sober now.

TLRobinson's avatar

As a “driving while black” recepient, I don’t find it far fetched for it to happen the other way; but as a resident of Memphis, I find it a challenge to believe. Would it be possible for you to have been in an area that’s known for illegal things and they were trying to “protect” a “naive” white person from being a statistic?

casheroo's avatar

I don’t think so, and I’ve driven in many predominantly black neighborhoods.

I was once pulled over in West Philly, for supposedly running a stop sign (no way in hell I would have done that, that will get you slammed into in Philly, plus my girlfriend and I were partaking in a certain illegal activity smoking pot so I was not running any stop signs.) Turns out, the cops just wanted to chat us up. No ticket was given. It was pretty annoying.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

I’ve been stopped for driving while female.That’s not fun either.

Blondesjon's avatar

I’ve been white every single time I’ve been pulled over. When will we finally put an end to all of this Blondesjonism?!?

jca's avatar

@TLRobinson : i think that was part of it – part of it was that we were definitely in a drug neighborhood and so that made it suspicious. white people would not be in that neighborhood, except most likely to cop drugs. however, you do have a point because when they were questioning us, they said a white girl got raped in that neighborhood about two weeks prior. by the way the neighborhood was down by Yankee Stadium, by the Grand Concourse – definitely in the day known for all kinds of drugs. Now, I don’t know as i no longer partake in any of that activity.

malevolentbutticklish's avatar

@UScitizen: I was stopped by a black female police officer who said she stopped me because it was too cold to be driving with the top down, that she was cold, and that it was “suspicious” that I was not cold. Apparently if you enjoy temperatures outside of the African-jungle range that is also valid reason to be stopped. I wonder how many of my tax dollars Whanitacop spends harassing white men who aren’t black female enough in temperature preference?

TLRobinson's avatar

@malevolentbutticklish-“temperatures outside the African-jungle range”. What an idiotic statement, with not an ounce of validity; just one persons experience. If your intent was to rile the collective, I’m sure you will. As a woman of color, I find your statements unfortunate…

malevolentbutticklish's avatar

@TLRobinson: “not an ounce of validity” ... “I find your statements unfortunate”. <== Then you are as dumb as the lady who pulled me over. The differences between men and women are more than presence or absence of penis, vagina, and breasts. The differences between blacks, whites, Asians, etc are more than just skin colour. Medical studies have been conducted and “Gender differences were found, with men tolerating the [cold] stimulus for significantly longer than women” (http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15162346) There are also studies showing differences not only in gender but also ethnicity but the particular link I posted doesn’t require paid access to view.

TLRobinson's avatar

@malevolentbutticklish- an ignorant statement doesn’t
mean it’s inaccurate, just ignorant. And you are fool to blanket an assumption off of a study; there are always exceptions. I for one, enjoy the cold more than my male friends, coworkers and family.

malevolentbutticklish's avatar

@TLRobinson: I don’t think you know what ignorant means: “Ignorance – The condition of being uninformed or uneducated.” Therefore to say an accurate statement has “not an ounce of validity” is ignorant. Additionally, outliers don’t disprove statistics and you are so vague with your “woman of color” statement we don’t even know if you are an outlier. You could even be a non-white Eskimo with such vagary. Even though your counterpoint is invalid either way why be so vague with “woman of color” instead of just stating what you are so that you could at least show yourself as such an outlier?

TLRobinson's avatar

@malevolentbutticklish- Your statement, “temperature outside the African jungle range.” in correlation with your description of the black officer is/was ignorant, period; as well as unfortunate. Who is “we”? My ethnicity is not relevant to this discussion thread, but if you would have taken time to read my original response, I stated my race.

malevolentbutticklish's avatar

@TLRobinson: If your “ethnicity is not relevant to this discussion thread” they why did you “As a woman of color, I find your statements unfortunate…” instead of “I find your statements unfortunate”? Apparently you think your ethnicity is relevant OR you were just injecting this irrelevant information for what reason? Why do you deny science and deny statistics when the results do not come up identical for different sex or race? Why do you think it is OK for a black female officer to find white men suspicious because of their temperature preference and to hassle them about it?

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