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What are the repercussions of not giving you children the standardized vaccinations?

Asked by lizzmitch (145points) December 28th, 2009

I have serious hesitation on giving my kids the rest of the vaccinations after hearing the things that are in them. Also a close family friend was paralyzed from the waste down because of them. I just don’t know if there are going to be any drawbacks, i.e. school, traveling, etc.

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fireinthepriory's avatar

I’d be very hesitant to travel anywhere but Canada (assuming you’re in the US) without proper vaccinations. It’s sometimes recommended you get extra vaccinations to travel depending on where you’re going, and some countries will even require it. For example, I had to have documented proof of yellow fever vaccination to go to Brazil.

Flo_Nightengale's avatar

The children might not be allowed to start school without proper immunization.

VohuManah's avatar

Depending on the state, you can get either a medical, religous, or even personal exemption for students attending school.

lizzmitch's avatar

@shilolo or autism, full or partial paralysis, mercury poisoning… ?

shilolo's avatar

@lizzmitch Um, no, extremely rare, no.

Let me add this. I’m an infectious diseases doctor. I’ve personally witnessed the horrible complications of children who aren’t vaccinated (measles, pneumonia, meningitis, etc.). To lose a child to a preventable disease in the 21st century is unconscionable.

VohuManah's avatar

And again, no to mercury poisoning You’re more likely to die from the disease than the treatment. More

avvooooooo's avatar

@lizzmitch All the things that you see that are attributed to vaccines are simply fearmongering. Unless there is some kind of allergy (to eggs, I think) that has to do with the way the vaccine was made, there is nothing that has been anything more than a kneejerk reaction connecting vaccines and the things you’re listing. Autism is “on the rise,” so to speak. But that’s not because of vaccinations, its because of the fact that we are far better at recognizing and diagnosing it than we have been in the past. Mercury poisoning from vaccines is just silly.

Vaccinate your children. Its for their health and safety and that of those around them.

The word is “waist.” Paralyzed from the “waist” down from some kind of allergy or something unrelated to vaccination.

tinyfaery's avatar

Here we go again.

randomness's avatar

If you do not give your children vaccinations, they may not be allowed to travel. Also, you may be putting them, and other children at risk. Your vaccinated children may catch contagious diseases, and then spread them to other people’s children.

thriftymaid's avatar

They can’t go to school

mattbrowne's avatar

What are the repercussions of giving your children something to eat? A close family friend choked on an object and almost died.

What are the repercussions of allowing your children to exercise? A close family friend fell on his head which led to severe brain injury.

The benefits of standardized vaccinations outweigh the risks.

The benefits of eating outweigh the risks.

The benefits of exercise outweigh the risks.

Don’t let the anti-vaccine movement fool you. Both my kids got all the vaccinations. They are 20 now and very healthy. And so are thousands of other vaccinated kids.

casheroo's avatar

Which vaccines? Some are okay to skip, but you have to deal with the consequences if your child acquires the illness. Some should always be given. You can always delay if you feel uncomfortable, but the child will still be protected. Even waiting until they’re 3 (if they aren’t in daycare or anything) could be a better option for you, and spacing them out.

I know it seems like “oh, why get the Polio vax if there’s no Polio” but you never know.

Dr_Dredd's avatar

Agree with @shilolo. The links between vaccines and autism are extremely tenuous, at best. (Most vaccines don’t even include mercury anymore.) And the link between death and the diseases being vaccinated against is very strong.

breedmitch's avatar

@shilolo :But Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carey went on Larry King and told me that the rise in autism was tied to the new schedule of vaccinations. Are you saying I shouldn’t believe Jenny McCarthy and Jim Carey?~

shilolo's avatar

@breedmitch Indeed. Other than her Playboy pictorial, this is my second favorite Jenny McCarthy website.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Lately, I’ve been working with the local county department of health in my area vaccinating schoolchildren with the Novel A-H1N1 “Swine Flu” vaccine. Initially, there was a lot of fear on the part of parents concerning the preservative Thimerosal contained in the vaccine in order to prolong shelf life. Thimerosal is ethylmercury. In the “dead” vaccine, there is 1 mcg of Thimerosal per 0.5ml dose. This is pretty much across the board in all H1N1 sera now being distributed in the US. In comparison, there is 25mcg of Thimerosal in the Seasonal flu vaccine. Both “dead” vaccines are administered via Intra muscular injections to the deltoid, except in very young children for whom we use the vastis lateralis (a muscle in the thigh). There is also the option of taking the live, weakened or attenuated virus vaccination via a nasal mist, which has no Thimerosal at all.

According to the US Department of Fisheries and Wildlife, who are charged with inspecting the quality of edible fish in the US for market, there is 57mcg of mercury in every 6 oz. can of domestic tuna sold in the US, more if the tuna comes from foreign waters. So, there is approximately as much mercury in one tuna fish sandwich as there is in the seasonal flu shot, and approximately 25 times more mercury in one tuna fish sandwich as there is in the H1N1 flu shot. (I’m estimating that one 6 oz. can will provide two sandwiches, as in my house).

Our team inoculated 35,000 kids in 6 weeks from early October through mid November. School principals have reported no remarkable side effects thus far, except that 48% of the kids reported sore deltoids the following day. We inoculated 700 health department employees using both the live/attenuated and the dead virus. One employee who had received the live virus nasal spray, reported flu like symptoms the following day, lasting three days. The vaccination takes 7 to fourteen days to build antibodies to full effect.

In December, there have been two nationwide FDA product quality recalls for the vaccine, one for 800,000 doses of live attenuated virus with no Thimerosal, and one for 400,000 doses of the dead virus with reduced Thimerosal. The reason for the recall was that it was discovered that both had become weak ahead of schedule due to reduced preservative content and were recalled before they would become ineffective. It should be noted that these recalls were product quality recalls, and not product safety recalls. There have been no product safety recalls as yet for any H1N1 vaccines in the US.

When I was a kid, I was painted heavily with the antiseptic Merthiolate (Mercurochrome) for my many scrapes and cuts, as I was quite active. That was the red stuff they used to dab on skinned knees, etc., to prevent infection and promote healing. I was happy to get Merthiolate, because it’s precursor, Iodine, burned like hell when applied and mom had to blow on it. Merthiolate was painless and mom could save her breath. Interestingly, as it turns out, Merthiolate/Mercurochrome was nearly pure mercury. I survived, and though I might be a bit strange, I am not autistic. However, Merthiolate was removed from the US market in 1998 due to consumer fears concerning mercury poisoning. There have been no studies to show a connection between autism and medically administered mercury as yet.

breedmitch's avatar

@Espiritus_Corvus : Wait! People still eat canned tuna?!?

YARNLADY's avatar

Too many parents are frightened by the wide spread so-called proof of a discredited study. I think it would be better to find out the real reason the children had poor reactions to vaccinations rather than cite a discredited study or outdated information.

If there was any evidence in my family or bad vaccination reactions, I would have my children’s doctor investigate what really caused it, and if it applied to my own children.

MaryW's avatar

My grandkids are getting their shots. The diseases they are protecting them from have a much bigger chance to kill or badly harm than any studies show from the shots.That does not stop me from watching the reviews on shots and worrying anyway. I feel that we have no alternative really. When I was raised in a military family and we moved often shots were so routine. There are 8 in our family and we all did fine. I sure would have hated to get any of the diseasess from 1940’s an on. Those diseases are still lurking for people who travel or are exposed to people who travel. I understand your worry. doing some research may help you feel better if you read alot from many good sourses. I agree that some people could be the cause (inadvertantly) of the any reactions. We are all so different inside our own bodies from conception on. That is wonderful but also problematic.

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