What about the other illegals, why do they get more of a pass?

I just have no response.

None at all.

There’s tons of Canadians who have entered this country illegally !!! There’s Europeans who do so as well but I guess “IT IS” OK as long as you are white !!!
This country welcomes immigrants with open arms as long as they are white !!!

I heard from a British immigrant how much trouble she had. She was unable to get in. I do not know how wide spread it is.

It could be a prejudice against darker people or it could be that this wave of immigrants is mostly dark skinned. The Irish certainly were not welcomed.

With the public climate today I would not be surprised if some of it is racism. I cannot make that call, though.

I believe this is what you call a “rhetorical question.”

@Grisaille Rhetorical? Where in rhetorical is the REAL reason why those from Europe escape the eye of the media in regard to who is illegal. I know what it looks like but do you really want me to call it that if there really IS another reason?

If 80% of illegals are hispanics, why should they be given a “pass”? And secondly, I am fairly sure that if anyone enters the US illegally, they’ll be deported just like anyone else. Doesn’t matter what color or ethnicity they are, if you are pulled over, and identified as illegal, you are going back to where you came from.

What are you going on about?

The reason why it is a rhetorical is because everyone here (including yourself) knows the answer to this question. Europeans, Canadians and other such peoples generally speak English and are either white or black. Mexican and Asian “illegals” rarely have these traits.

Bible-thumping racist Americans see this as foreigners invading the country, ruining their “American way of life.” The media (and, to a high extent, the Republican party) feeds on this and pronounces it more in coverage. I’ve never seen a stock clip during one of these segments showing a group of Caucasians.

I hope that answers your response, @Hypocrisy_Central, because I can’t understand a goddamn thing you’re trying to tell me.

@gtreyger I don’t doubt your statistic, but can you show me an article that says 80% of those in this country illegally are Hispanic? I’m just curious.

And I’m going to go ahead and agree that regardless of race, most of the time if someone is pulled over and found to be in the country illegally, they will get deported. But that isn’t the question, sadly.

@Grisaille Here is the article. If you add 57% from Mexico to 24% from Latin America you’ll get 81% of hispanics. This does not include illegals from Cuba or Spain (also hispanics).

@Grisaille “Europeans, Canadians and other such peoples generally speak English and are either white or black. Mexican and Asian “illegals” rarely have these traits“. If you have been to San Francisco lately you would know just because a person looks white they do not always speak English that well if they do at all. So, it is not a given. And I would never have phantom the republicans being the cause or having a major hand in this, you do have the goods, something that backs that up, right? Simple, what I am telling you if I am telling you anything is Europeans escape a lot of scrutiny even the ones who don’t speak English well; that is a fact we all know. The question is why? You say the Republicans. Then again maybe that is just a by product of a larger reason, maybe it is because there are less European illegals by number. Get outside-the-box and maybe some less obvious ideals as to why can come into place.

Since the msm just does as it told (for the most part) I can only assume its to demonise and cause conflict so that more legislation can be past.

Just guessing here, but probably 80% of legislation (in my opinion) is born from ‘Problem Reaction Solution’

But then, I’m English, so when the shit hits the fan over here, we haven’t even got any weapons to fall back on.

@gtreyger Thanks.

Alright, @Hypocrisy_Central, I’ll bite.

If you have been to San Francisco lately you would know just because a person looks white they do not always speak English that well if they do at all. So, it is not a given.

I haven’t been to San Francisco, ever.

I have, however, been to New York City. In fact, I live here.

You know NYC, right? It’s a little town on the East Coast, with a population of over 8.3 million people, discounting the major metropolitan outskirts, which bumps it up just a little. And by a little, I mean by a whole 10 million. Oh… what was that?

You say that NYC has a larger population than San Francisco? A whole ten times larger, according to the California Department of Finance, in fact? Gosh darn, HypCen, I agree with you.

Don’t try to pull your condescending bullshit on a condescending bullshitter. I know just as well as any that not all whites speak English. In fact, had you read my statement… oh, I don’t know… correctly, you would have realized the operative term in that sentence was “generally.” Unfortunately, you’re rigged to mine for interest-relevant statements, skimming over parts that don’t fit your liking. Or you just lack an apt level of reading comprehension.

And I would never have phantom the republicans being the cause or having a major hand in this, you do have the goods, something that backs that up, right?

You’re either seriously delusional or willfully ignorant if you believe the Republican party doesn’t feed the base. Sotomayor ring any bells? Operation Wetback? How about segregation? No?

Many people identify as Republican simply because they believe in fiscal responsibility, or believe the party represents their idea of a prosperous, Christian nation. I get that, and more power to them.

However, if you’re going to sit here and deny the Republican party has had any involvement in playing a sweet melody to the racist base, then you are very, very lost.

Simple, what I am telling you if I am telling you anything is Europeans escape a lot of scrutiny even the ones who don’t speak English well; that is a fact we all know. The question is why? You say the Republicans.

I don’t say Republicans. I never said Republicans.

Let’s play a game. In it, we read what you wrote, then we read what I wrote, okay? Go back and read yours. Ready? Here’s mine:

Bible-thumping racist Americans see this as foreigners invading the country, ruining their “American way of life.” The media (and, to a high extent, the Republican party) feeds on this and pronounces it more in coverage.

Got that?

Show me which of those sentences is the dominant, and which is the dependent. Better yet, how me in there where it says “The GOP is the reason illegal European immigrants get a pass.”

Now, now, is that to say the Republican party is blameless? Absolutely not. What it does mean is that the GOP sees and understands that white racist America exists and that it is a huge group of potential voters. Many take this to the podium with them when they run for office – after all, you can’t just run on “fiscal responsibility” and “no abortions.” They feed the base, the base votes, they are happy, everyone loses.

I fear you aren’t following, so I’ll spell out what I said above in a clearer voice:

- White, racially-isolated man dislikes non-whites.

- Media knows white man identifies illegal immigration as brown man.

- Media shows statistics of illegal immigration or like coverage and displays random group of brown men standing at the corner, waiting for work.

- White man, in a twisted way, is pleased by this, further pushing him deeper into his ideology.

- Republican also knows white man dislikes brown man, and sees opportunity to get white man to vote for him.

- Republican runs for office with promise to slow illegal immigration, the brown plague that is ruining economies, stealing jobs, jacking up crime rates etc, etc.

Christ, this is tedious. It was an additive statement. It exists just to further my original point, something I get into below.

Then again maybe that is just a by product of a larger reason, maybe it is because there are less European illegals by number.

I actually agree with you, HypCen. Thing is, I’m half asleep and for some reason didn’t take into account the very obvious fact (pointed out by @gtreyger) that most illegal immigrants are of Hispanic origin – something I take full blame for not realizing.

Thing is, it’s a generalization to say that most illegal immigrants are of Hispanic or Asian ancestry – a true generalization – but one nonetheless. The question is why do they get a pass, however: my answer remains the same – they generally look and talk the same. It’s racialism. It exists. It is there.

Get outside-the-box and maybe some less obvious ideals as to why can come into place.

Whatever this is supposed to mean: Go to hell.

i think it bc of the skin tone. sorry

No one gets a pass. You’re just not paying attention to the crimes being committed in your name.

@Grisaille Dang homes, did not know I hit a nerve that deep. One can have an exchange civilly without sinking to lambasting and insult; “He who establishes his argument by noise and command shows that his reason is weak.” Michel de Montaigne. What was it? “Don’t try to pull your condescending bullshit on a condescending bullshitter.” I was not being condescending, I threw a logical pitch, sorry that you caught something different.

Yes I know of New York, I have an aunt that lives there; though I have never been. I have however been to San Francisco many times. Why did I reference San Fran? I have been there. I can’t speak for New York, Houston, Denver or any other place I have not been to. I also referenced it because you hear a lot of different tongues. That sets up the thought that not all non-English speaking people get look at as being possible illegal like Hispanics and Asians. I never heard anyone speak illegal of a person with a Dutch, Italian or German accent or language (but they could have been) Do that clear it up?

As for Republicans, you brought that one up, you said “The media (and, to a high extent, the Republican party) feeds on this and pronounces it more in coverage.” And “You’re either seriously delusional or willfully ignorant (if you are going to dabble I insults please try to at least be more eloquent about it) if you believe the Republican party doesn’t feed the base. (I guess this is where I be like most and ask you to produce your sources or facts on the matter)Sotomayor ring any bells? Operation Wetback? (never heard of it) How about segregation? No?” Sotomayor is suppose to due what, make it so illegals blend in or that they are not deported, you did not clarify how it had anything to do with the price if tea in China. Because she is a Justice now the media will focus on ALL illegals equally now?

The last part (which is too much to repost) has a valid point, same as gun control laws usually right after a gun man or men shoot up as school or campus, crime, and now, anything to do with terrorism. Politicians are whores they will give the public anything it wants to get or stay in office.
To say people who are deeply religious are racist because most tend to be conservative and most conservatives tend to be Republicans, is kind on a nasty stretch; like saying all Irish love potatoes or something. It is just icky.

Looking at all that in conclusion the media plays to the fear of the conservatives that White America will be selling tacos in the close years to come because of the illegals (from down South) and show day labors as the proof of such. Then with a promise to so something about it makes Mr. Whore politician look good, he gets votes, whisks into office, passes out cigars. If the media is that lopsided as to have a clear bias then they can’t be trusted and liars at best or racist at worse. Which would give one pause as to what other propaganda they do under the guise of news?