I was hoping that I wouldn’t have to resort to The Great Wall ‘o Text, but alas.
@Qingu
Just to be clear, you do support the killing of every man, woman and child in a town that gives up your religion?
No, I don’t support the destruction of people who give up my faith. My faith is not the same thing as the Israelites’ faith. Christianity is essentially the rest of Judaism. It is Grace, which is the flip side of the Law. The Law punishes, Grace forgives.
And as for the behavior of “away games,”—by the way, comparing the religious inspired killings of tens of thousands of people to a sports game might not be the most apt analogy—I suppose you (and your source) are like most people who support genocide. You believe the victims “deserved it.”
I’ll admit that “away games” isn’t the best of word choices. It is, however, what I wrote. I choseit because even though it makes light of something heavy it’s in the same general direction; after all, sports has come to replace more violent pastimes, has it not?
Yes, I’m going to say that they deserved it. A culture does not collect a list of crimes like child sacrifice and go unpunished. In the Law, the penalty for murder – murder, mind, not killing in wartime – is death. I understand that you’re probably against capital punishment, but many find it perfectly reasonable: the killer has taken a life; he cannot restore life and thereby make restitution, but he can be deprived of his own. The culture was guilty of hideous crimes, and was destroyed. Some of the people were killed. Some were displaced and later absorbed into other cultures.
Furthermore, in that time and place, you would settle things like whose god had dominance through combat: the more powerful god would secure victory for his followers. YHWH had already trounced the various gods of the Egyptians in this same manner.
In case anyone is wondering, this is why I have a problem with religion. Because it leads to people like Nullo rationalizing and defending genocide.
You’re the one speaking of genocide, not I. Israel is acting as an agent of the court here, carrying out the Judge’s sentence.
By the way, I’d rather live next to people who practiced the Canaanites’ religious rituals—child sacrifice, incest, and whatnot—than people who committed genocide against their neighbors.
I’ll let the registered sex offenders in your area know, then.
@Fyrius
_Oh, have the witches been mentioned yet? That’s my favourite.
Exodus 22:18: “Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live.”
(Modern translation: “Do not allow a sorceress to live.”)
Thus Jehovah said to Moses that the people of the earth are obligated to murder any woman who has magical powers. It’s both laughable and terrifying._
Exodus 22:18 is amplified in Deuteronomy 18:10–11:
“Let no one be found among you who sacrifices his son or daughter in the fire, who practices divination or sorcery, interprets omens, engages in witchcraft or casts spells, or who is a medium or spiritist or who consults the dead.”
All pretty Satanic stuff, hence the prohibition.
“Anyone who has sexual relations with an animal must be put to death.”
It’s a capital offense. Murder is, by definition, the unlawful killing of another. This is a law that says that bestiality is punishable by death, therefore execution of the guilty party isn’t murder, but punishment.
_“Whoever sacrifices to any god other than the LORD must be destroyed.”
And religious tolerance is for pussies._
Consider: when you lay the foundation to a building, do you want there to be any cracks? Holes? Any irregularities? Weak spots?
God is laying the foundation for His plan to save mankind from its sorry self.
Exodus 21:12–17: “Anyone who strikes a man and kills him shall surely be put to death. However, if he does not do it intentionally, but God lets it happen, he is to flee to a place I will designate. But if a man schemes and kills another man deliberately, take him away from my altar and put him to death.”
This addresses the unlawful killing of another. Done deliberately, it is punishable by death.—This is legal in many places even today; Texas, for instance, has no qualms about executing its murderers (and even in Europe, a murderer is locked up for life, isn’t he?). Manslaughter, on the other hand, has a lighter sentence.
“Anyone who attacks his father or his mother must be put to death.”
“Anyone who kidnaps another and either sells him or still has him when he is caught must be put to death.”
Prohibition for kidnapping and human trafficking. Seems perfectly reasonable to me.
“Anyone who curses his father or mother must be put to death.”
This isn’t just about disrespect; properly done, curses are serious business, and have real-world possibly Satanic implications.
_This is still Jehovah speaking. Ordering death, death and deadly death.
Thank goodness that people don’t follow the bible to the letter any more, but this sort of thing should make it indisputable that at least in the past, people have killed because their religion told them to._
This is the Law. Execution is presented here as a legal punishment. That the Law was penned by God doesn’t change the fact that this is a legal system, and not a religious system.
We don’t “follow the Bible to the letter” because the foundation has been laid. That part of the blueprint has been completed.
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