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Do you think there should be a law for this?

Asked by earthduzt (3218points) April 19th, 2010

I just finished watching a documentary about dark internet affair. An 18 year old girl starts to talk to an 18 year old boy (she thought he was an 18 year old boy, but in reality he was a middle aged man) in a chatroom and they had a long drawn out affair, well the 18 year old girl met a real 18 year old boy in the same chatroom and so now there is a love triangle going. (she eventually found out that the man was not an 18 year old boy, but kept the affair going anyways)

The middle aged man is now getting jealous and threatens to hurt the 18 year old boy and eventually ends up killing him. Now come to find out it wasn’t an 18 year old girl that was carrying on this love triangle but it was the mother of the 18 year old girl that lead this middle aged man on as well as this 18 year old boy.

The man was charged with murder and convicted of course, but the mother was not charged with anything. It was a wicked tale of lies and deceit and unfortunately it was the one that was telling the truth that got it in the end.

So my question is should there be a law of some sort condemning what the mother had done? Or is it just the person who “pulls the trigger?” Or did she start a deadly fantasy online that ultimately led to young human beings death? Should she be sitting in jail with the “trigger puller?”

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filmfann's avatar

You want to put her in jail because she lied about her age?
She didn’t seem to encourage the guy to kill the kid (as you told it).
Do you really think AstroChuck is 6 years old?

Pandora's avatar

She had no way of knowing this man would do this. It doesn’t matter how old he thought she was or any of that. The person who killed out of jealousy should be the one found guilty. As for her, she probably learned no to ever be so deceptive again.

earthduzt's avatar

Well she led both of them on, she also did this behind her daughter’s back, sending both of them risque pictures of her own daughter…telling both of them at different times that they could meet up and have sex as well. The man did warn her that he would hurt the boy if she were to keep talking to him. The man also tried to break off the affair numerous times and the girl always kept coming back looking for more. The man never found out she was actually a 46 year old woman until after he committed the crime.
I’m not saying he should get off scott free, it was ultimately his decision to pull the trigger. But if you were that boys parents and found out some 46 year old woman had been leading their son and the man on in this way wouldn’t you want her to get in some sort of trouble? After all if she had of stopped the affair and just told the truth no one would’ve been killed, the real 18 year old boy would’ve stopped talking to her.

@Pandora and no she did not learn her lesson, her husband and daughter completely cut this mother out of their lives now and she is back online spending enormous amounts of time on the internet.

Talhotblond is the documentary

DrasticDreamer's avatar

Technically, the only thing that the mother could and should get in trouble for is impersonating her daughter, and sending risque pictures. However, that makes me extremely curious. How the hell did the mom get those kind of pictures of her daughter in the first place?

earthduzt's avatar

@DrasticDreamer well it was just pics of her daughter in a bathing suits and whatnot, looked like maybe vacation photos. She would send both of these guys panties in the mail claiming to be her panties that she was wearing also. She got pretty elaborate with it.

Pandora's avatar

Well if she was aware of the threats than I would say it makes her an accomplice. Knowing there was possible danger being made to a minor makes her guilty. However it would be hard proving that she knew the person making the threats wasn’t role playing or simply acting out a fantasy or even that she knew he had a way of getting near the kid.
If she knew for certain than she should’ve reported the treats to the police.

earthduzt's avatar

@Pandora funny thing was the kid and the man actually lived in the same small town and worked in the same auto factory. The girl is the one that lived in a different state. It seems more to me she was trying to manipulate the whole thing, maybe she did want someone to commit murder to see if hse could get it done. Maybe living out a sick and dark fantasy in her own mind and she knew how to manipulate the situation.

earthduzt's avatar

It just really freaks me out knowing there are adults that play this type of game, I suppose I can understand the whole roleplay thing but if it gets to a certain point where people get jealous or start with threats then at some point people need to cut it off and not let it escalate to the level it did. I have a 6 year old daughter so it freaks me out even more.

OneMoreMinute's avatar

And how would you enforce such a laws?

It’s always a gamble when meeting anyone online in any kind of chatroom/dating or otherwise, and to not believe everything they say. after all, they are strangers.

Isn’t it supposed to be the land of recreating yourself?

I just hope they don’t go crazy on this and close down all social chat rooms.

escapedone7's avatar

Uhm… I have a serious confession to make. I’m not really a cheetah.

I don’t take things from the internet so seriously. If someone does have my attention enough I actually want to talk to them, I usually try to get them to talk to me on cam. I don’t even assume pictures are real until I cam with them face to face. Using avatars is… common place and even a privacy or safety thing for many people.
But even chatting on cam doesn’t make us “best friends” in my book, much less “lovers”. They can still lie about everything from their job to being divorced. I guess I don’t get it.

To me this is like those labels they put on things for stupid people. You know, warnings about not putting plastic bags over your head. Do we need a law, or do we need some public education?

Buttonstc's avatar

How can you pass a law against extreme naïveté (the poor 18 yr. old) or outright stupidity (the murderer).

To make life and death or life-changing decisions based on a fantasy over the Internet with no real life verification is just too stupid for words.

Everybody was over age 18 so child predator laws don’t apply.
Remember the NBC series of investigations To Catch a Predator ? You had to be living under a rock to be unaware of it. That’s certainly a perfect example how anyone can be anything on the Internet.

The reason they were able to arrest and prosecute those guys is because the decoys were claiming to be teenage boys or girls and made it really clear in the chats that they were legally underage.

Don’t get me wrong. What this woman did is certainly morally reprehensible and she is without conscience. But the law cannot be used to replace her conscience.

The murderer deserves to rot in jail, obviously for taking someone’s life but also for being supremely stupid to do something like that based on an Internet fantasy.

But for the woman, unfortunately, we can’t legislate against stupidity and psychopathy.

She really is the worst kind of sociopath who sees people as toys to be manipulated for her own amusement.

But since the scam she ran didn’t defraud anyone of money and she didn’t pull the trigger, her actions were not illegal. Totally disgusting, but not illegal, unfortunately.

LuckyGuy's avatar

What the mother did was wrong but there’s no law against it. Impersonation might be a possibility but do you really thing her daughter would press charges?

I’d start a blog discussing this case and have the mother’s name and photos prominently displayed as many times as possible. Let the power of a google search deliver the sentencing.

thriftymaid's avatar

No law required here. People have and will continue to lie about their age among many other things.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Pandora Great Caesar’s ghost ”She had no way of knowing this man would do this.” She was instigating things for a while she had to be clueless not to figure things would get ugly. If I remember right she even edged the older man on. To me it is no different than watching a man draw down on another and telling the gunman he was too much of a pansy to pull the trigger almost assuring he would.

@DrasticDreamer ”How the hell did the mom get those kind of pictures of her daughter in the first place?” She lofted the pics from her daughter Myspace I believe.

It was highly unethical what both older people done I always say truth can’t be topped, every lie take at least 5 more to prop up the 1st.. And as unethical as it was no one see anything criminal about it at least there is no law. If they have insider trading laws they should have had something in place to address instigators. If someone drives a person to a crime where there is a murder they share the murder even if they didn’t know about it, but I guess the law is slow on cyber instigating.

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