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In your opinion what is the spiritual state of our country and what does it mean to your church?

Asked by Besafe (441points) March 18th, 2008
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scamp's avatar

It looks like a legitimate question to me.

bulbatron9's avatar

The current spiritual state of our country is that the churches are brainwashing people like you. A church is a gathering of people who share their beliefs, and not a building where you go sit, listen, and tithe. I believe in God. I don’t believe God would want me to waste my life giving to a few lazy church officials, that stand above you reading to you like you were in preschool. Read for yourself! People need to form their own opinion, not just follow because someone says they’re right. Going around trying to witness to everyone, is not living. If the only book you read was the bible and the only place you ever went was church, then what kind of life would that be.

jrpowell's avatar

bulbatron9 said what I was thinking. And he did it without being a dick. Good work.

scamp's avatar

A church is a gathering of people who share their beliefs, and not a building where you go sit, listen, and tithe

I agree with this.

cwilbur's avatar

The spiritual state of our country is a sorry mess, involving a lot of people doing a lot of evil things to the powerless in the name of Jesus and religion.

My church is taking a leadership role in working towards social justice and equality for all, and in recognizing and welcoming people that a lot of churches reject outright.

Besafe's avatar

Sorry—I forgot to add the warning label—but it really wasn’t meant to be a God question – but moe of a morality question.

Please consider this statement as having been at the header of the question (or I guess any question I post that mentions anything related even loosely to Christianity)

“Warning this post may contain referances to God, Church, Christianity, Salvation, the Bible or other related topics you might consider proystelizing or bible thumping or may otherwise be hazardous to your desire to avoid thinking abou these topics—read beyond this point at your own risk” Thank You

shorty's avatar

@ bulbatron
“The Bible is the best book in the world. It contains more than all the libraries I have seen.”
“Suppose a nation in some distant region should take the Bible for their only law book, and every member should regulate his conduct by the precepts there exhibited! Every member would be obligated in conscience, to temperance, frugality, and industry; to justice, kindness, and charity towards his fellow men; and to piety, love, and reverence toward Almighty God… What a Utopia, what a paradise would this region be.” Quote by John Adams. If you don’t know who John Adams is check out this web site:

bulbatron9's avatar

I know who Samuel Adams is, I drink him all the time. Hell yes, I know who Jon Adams is, I believe I read that in either the third or fourth grade. You’re right, the Bible has some great fables, truths, and more importantly “holes”! Do you read the NIV or the KJV? Either way King James screwed you out of a whole lot when he had the Bible translated from the original Hebrew version. Also, if the Bible was the only book you ever read, then you wouldn’t really be expanding your horizons. The entire human race would be nothing more than drones to the church, if that was the only book. Hell, you wouldn’t even know what the words meant, because there is no dictionary. The evolution of the human mind has come a long way! Even the Bible has evolved into a “digital” form. Who are you to judge me, anyway? Maybe you should read the Bible, before you defend it.
P.S. God Bless!

shorty's avatar

96% of American’s say they believe in God
41% Attend church
13% of American’s have a deep and transforming faith
82% say they have a desire for Spiritual growth
2/3 of Americans say most churches are not effective in helping people find meaning in life.
The church should practice being the body of Christ. Walk the walk they talk. Reach out to all. Teach so there will be spiritual growth. Be a transforming church with mentors. A program to teach new believers (not drop them when they say a prayer.) Reach out to the homeless and let them know they are important too. Bring them in. Be a church that reaches out and reaches in.

bulbatron9's avatar

@shorty Excellent way to put it! I hooked it up with 1*

shorty's avatar


In no way did I mean for it to come across as judging you. I only felt it was appropriate that I have the same rights you do in expressing your opinion of the Word of God. Most people are not aware that the Bible was written over a period of 1,600 yrs, by more than 40 authors, who wrote on three different continents in three different languages. They spoke on hundreds of controversial subjects, and yet they penned their words with agreement and harmony.

Now for you to say I judged you when I only copied a quote from John Adams who is one of the founders of our country and second President is unwarranted.

shorty's avatar

@ bulbatron9
I forgot to add, I’m not sure what you meant with I hooked it up with 1*

bulbatron9's avatar

I gave you a Great Answer. That’s five points. I thought your “percentage response” was commendable.

As far as the judging thing – For some reason my eyes overlooked the word “if” in your statement “If you don’t know who Jon Adams is….......”,so I thought, for a minute, that you were questioning my intelligence.

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