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Who really gets the tips that I leave in personal envelopes to the my Waiter, Assistant Waiter, Head Waiter and my Stateroom Attendant Team on the Voyager of the Seas cruise ship?

Asked by Ranimi23 (1914points) July 26th, 2010

First of all, I’m back from a fantastic cruise on the Voyager ship and can tell you it was an amazing vacation week for me. This ship is amazing and the staff in it is making a wonderfull service. The shows in the La Scala theatre are amazing and so much more, I can talk about it hours now. If you can afford such a trip, Go for it! This is the good part and I’m completely objective about it. Such a quality time I never ever had before.

But, here is the bad thing I don’t understand at all. As a guest I have the ability to decide to who from the staff I want to give tips in a personal envelopes on the last day. This is my way to express my appreciation to people who care about my staying on the ship, so my vacation would be excellent.

On the last dinner on the ship, I noticed a strange thing I want to discuss about with you and understand why they do that. I Personally gave envelope to my personal waiter, the waiter first put the envelope in his pocket, but then walked to his Head Waiters and transfer my envelope to him.

I’m sorry, but why is this? I gave this money to my wonderfull waiter who gave me an excellent service, so this money is for him only. I tried to ask him why, but he avoided giving me straight answer and he probably should not talk about it with anyone. He is obligated to report any tip he gets on the ship. Why?

If I understand this right, Any tips of everyone gathered together and then divided equally among all the waiters. Is it possible? So how can my waiter know how much money I gave him personally? He will never know that way.

I don’t see the good thing here. If someone is working better than another one and gets more tips, Why does he have to share his money with others? I want him to know I gave this for him and not for someone else :-/

All the way they are “offering” giving tips is looking really bad from my point of view. They suggest you do so but it is like they are forcing you to do this because otherwise you will feel very uncomfortable, although that trip is very expensive as it is. They also gave me A letter describing how much money they “advise” to give to any of those people for every day of service.

What is really going on behind the scenes? I think it’s wrong and unjust.

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Kraigmo's avatar

A percentage of the tips goes to all the hidden workers, who made your stay comfortable, but whom you never knew about… such as the dishwashers, linen cleaners, and others.

Also, some overactive “good citizen“employers require all employees to turn in tips for purposes of determining the tax on them to pay, thus deducting such tax from the tip before it is returned.

Ranimi23's avatar

Now I’m not sure at all that my money is going to the people I gave them personally in hand envelopes, maybe his boss taking it all to himself? I do not like injustice when I see and feel it myself. Something feels wrong. I’m sorry for the long words, but I really want to express my opinion and maybe understand it better, so I will not feel bad that my money is not going to who I wanted it to go.

theichibun's avatar

A lot of restaurants pool tips or check to make sure that people are reporting all of the tips they get because it’s so easy to not report tips.

ItsAHabit's avatar

theichibun I think the servers themselves should pool the tips if they wish, but not the manager; it’s too easy to palm a few bucks.

Incidentally, it’s not the restaurant’s business to be working for the IRS.

jca's avatar

@ItsAHabit: the IRS is not a factor here as the majority (probably all, in fact) of the ships are not from the US, they’re from other countries, so even though the business may be American, the ship itself is from some weird countries that have their own laws regarding tax, tips, etc.

theichibun's avatar

It’s also easy for the servers to palm a few bucks away from the server that nobody likes. The manager seeing the money =/= the manager getting money.

Jeruba's avatar

@Ranimi23, your cruise was from where to where? This is a side question—I’m just curious.

Ranimi23's avatar

@Jeruba , from Barcelona to Italy and Franch and back to Barcelona.

josie's avatar

Ditto they spread it around to the people you do not see. In similar circumstances, I have taken certain excellent service people aside privately and quietly handed them some cash. Now, I do not know if they spread it around later, but I assume that they do not. If not good. If so, so what?

ItsAHabit's avatar

I always put the bill(s) in my palm and then shake their hand.

Odysseus's avatar

@ItsAHabit , Old School, the way it should be. :)

Pied_Pfeffer's avatar

Voyager Cruises is an American-based company. Unless the rules have changed, tips are required to be reported in America so that they can be taxed. It cannot be reported unless it is turned in.

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