NSFW What do men or women learn from porn?

I got idea of what got me off (turned me on).

like jimah i learned what i find hot and what i dont find arousing.

Primal urges! We all have them, mostly of the mind Fantasies etc, as for morals? What use are morals in porn, there’s something there for everyone whether they admit it or not!! :-/

I’m not sure how common watching porn before actually having sex is, but it taught me where the clitoris is located.

You learn to be a perv.

The more you watch the less of an issue it becomes.

One big porn junkie.

Porn just passes go and collects $200. It’s like the people in them are using the other person/people as masturbatory aids and not truly engaging with them. Bleah!

That two people and one thing is always a very bad combination. if you don’t get that, good for you

I don’t think porn movies have had a story since the mid-80s. Late 60s to 70s movies actually put some thought into the story.

New sex positions. Like oooo I gotta try that.

New vocabulary!
Things like “Rim job”, “money shot” and “expectorate”

That, at minimum, 30 minutes of blow-jobbing is necessary, followed by precisely 30 minutes of jackhammer like screwing.

Immediately after discussing the price of pizza.

“Story” or “tale” implies a plot – a character which is introduced, experiences a conflict, and ends with resolution. Those would seem necessary for there to be a moral or point.

In the porn I’ve encountered, plot is sadly lacking and is mostly limited to “getting it on.” While there is an element of doubt in non-porn fiction (Will Luke save the Empire? Will Rocky Balboa win the fight?) that keeps you at the edge of your seat, I find no such dynamic tension in porn. The clothes will be coming off and the mission accomplished, or else it wouldn’t be in that genre.

As such, I’ve learned such unlikely morals as “women love getting several loads of cum on the face” and “they also really like it when you bang them hard and rough.” I’m not sure how these lessons serve a person in real life, after the film has been viewed, since real sex isn’t often like that.

I learned that there are men out there with dicks twice the size of mine.

You learn that porn directors have an incredibly poor taste in music! You would never get me naked with really bad music like that! Yuck!

This

That even unattractive men with big dicks can be appealing to some women (Ron Jeremy).

So, what I’m gathering from this is that porn:

shows you all the things you can do. Here is the plate of items you can choose from.
almost anything is possible and you could do it all!
shows what private parts look like and where they are located.
It’s ok to be perverted.
wants you to try all this!
teaches the language to talk about these activities.
shows you how to get sex. If you order pizza, it will come with a cock sticking through it, and the pizza man will get an endless blowjob, and fucks like a rabbit. Who knew the benefits of being a pizza man?
teaches you that women like cum on their faces. They like to be banged really hard and deep.
shows you that all men have hugantic cocks, and if it’s big enough, then there are women who will throw themselves at you in order to get a chance to have it in them.
helps you understand that you need bad music to fuck with.

I wonder how many people believe some or all of these messages?

@wundayatta I, for one, am disappointed. I ordered a pizza the other day and it was delivered by a very attractive woman who did not solicit me for sex. Yes, I was surprised!

All I learned was I have absolutely zero interest in pictures of people having sex.

@wundayatta don’t forget, they also teach us that all women desire to have a threesome that includes their best friend, that just so happens to have the biggest fake tits you’ve ever seen.

@wundayatta I just ordered a pizza not 5 mins ago, and I have actually watched a porno with a pizza delivery dude’s weenie sticking through the middle of the pizza.

@wundayatta I think the people who are inclined to believe fiction is reality are also inclined to believe porn is evil. The public is generally safe with the presence of porn. Or it would be, if parents would fucking learn how to manage their kids’ access to the internet. but that’s another subject

@FutureMemory I think I saw that one…

@zophu with Sunny Lane right?

@FutureMemory don’t remember the details, that’s just an image you don’t forget

The moral of the porn story? Uh, don’t get caught? I never watched porn to learn anything, but it helped me not be a total noob my first time.

@wundayatta – It sounds ridiculous when you phrase the “lessons learned” in such a manner. I doubt anyone seriously expects every pizza dude to be pornworthy, for instance. However, I think porn does change expectations in subtle ways.

For instance, porn has changed what many people expect to find once their partner undresses. It is generally expected nowadays that a woman will be completely hairless down there, or at most have a little “landing strip” of pubic fuzz. If you don’t think this UK site is telling the truth, check out the differences of opinion here and here on Fluther. Similarly, more women are seeking cosmetic surgery of the vulva to match the airbrushed ones shown in porn.

From one of my links:

More worrying is the reality that looking at pornography is increasingly many teenagers’ first exposure to sex and sexuality. I acknowledge that in some instances it may offer an educational insight but, for the most part, pornography presents a very distorted image of sexuality. Female roles and basic female physiology is particularly problematic; available women with a very specific and narrow body type (in every sense of the word), who tend to perform rather than engage, is not the most positive representation of consenting sexuality, a concept I believe to be absolutely crucial for young people.

Such are the lessons learned, sometimes, from porn.

And that’s why we should all be supporters of amateur porn. Where the truths of the actors’ appearances are usually more obvious than most would want them to be.

@zophu And vintage stuff, from before plastic surgery and augmentation.

@zophu Oh yeah, amateur or bust. I don’t understand what’s sexy about non-amateur stuff, it’s all so contrived and overdone.

Most people don’t do it to learn. They do it to have something I like to call “my happy hour”. However it has helped me to hold my load when I am doing the real thing.

Ah yes. Case in point. A couple of people who say they didn’t watch to learn, yet learned something. They say this in all apparent sincerity. They believe they are not “noobs” because they’ve seen it, or that it is necessary to “hold my load.” I do believe these are some of the hidden morals (lessons) shown in porn. People often seem to have no idea that they are learning things in watching porn. They are not aware that their expectations are being changed in subtle ways, as @laureth points out.

Scary.

@Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard Well yeah…how else could you have “sex” for an hour?

It happened when porn became mainstream. I bet even Sarah Palin waxes now. Maybe even Nancy Pelosi to quote @Captain_Fantasy on another thread.

Re @laureth ‘s post re expectations and the gradual insanity regarding the “grooming” of pubic hair, both women’s perceptions and men’s perceptions and expectations.

Porn and only porn has brought this about. There is no other conceivable possibility. Genitalia are shown to the masses no other place. Prior to approx 1980 and surely 1970, the concept of removing pubic hair was unheard of, certainly by the masses. (Yes, I can hear someone citing a laudable source of pubic hair history) I speak from experience. I was pretty damn sexually aware in those days and I never ever ever heard of or saw anyone who did that (heard of more than saw).

@wundayatta Well, yeah, but you could say that about any media. And lessons learned from other medias aren’t corrected as quickly and efficiently as the embarrassment of learning false lessons from porn can bring. About the waxing thing, it’s essentially a hairstyle. Not too much different than believing that it’s best for men to generally wear short hairdos and keep their faces well shaved.

As porn becomes more and more a part of open culture, the relationships people have with it will be more influenced by the culture and be more likely to be healthy.

@ChazMaz

Thanks for THIS….... PMSL…... :-)

@zophu Oh I agree (if you’re referring to what I think you’re referring to). All stories from all media have underlying moral lessons in them. I’m just wondering what people are getting out of porn—not the overt stuff, which most people think has little redeeming content, but the messages underneath that play a role in setting people’s expectations about how life should be, fortunately or unfortunately.

If porn is ever widely accepted as an art form, we might see some that is worth people watching for more than just the “overt” reasons. I imagine many people have sexual fantasies involving intriguing characters found in respected film; I know I have. Why not have a genre of film (not “porn”) that has an element of pornography to it? I mean, there are some movies that have fairly expressive sex scenes, but nothing like you see in most porn.

If the gap between high-quality mainstream media and erotic media is bridged, maybe things would be not only more appealing, but healthier. The problems lie in culture, I think. You cut out large chunks of your audience when you add pornography to your piece. And if it’s homosexual, that’s pretty much considered a “special interest.” Funny how our lack of acceptance for pornography is what keeps it in the dark, where it’s more secluded from the constructive criticism that would make it better for culture. It’s counter-productive.

I learned more from analysis of porn by various people than from the porn itself.

@zophu I’m afraid you can’t fight city hall. People know porn when they see it, and they don’t care what messages it is passing along to young people. They would just rather pretend it doesn’t exist.

@wundayatta Yeah, it sucks. My life would have been better growing up if I understood what porn was early on. and didn’t have to discover it from an asshole friend who was as ignorant as I on a site called fart-dog or something. I don’t recommend searching it, but you can imagine there would be better ways to be introduced to the idea of pornography.

@ChazMaz. Great Vid! :-D

I learned what I wasn’t taught in the 1970’s.
:-D