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What is the indentation under nose that bumps into tips of upper lip called?

Asked by gailcalled (54575points) March 4th, 2007
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occ's avatar
there is a word for it, and I am not sure how you spell it, but is sounds very simiar to dybbuk or dibic...
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Dybbuk (from the Hebrew dibbuq), is a great word, but means the spirit of a dead person that enters the body of a living person and possesses it. Isaac B Singer and Sholem Alaichem wrote short stories about Dybbuks. So, "let us keep on inquiring together" for what the nose knows.
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Thank you. I can sleep soundly tonight.
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And get this... From the Greek philtron, from philein, "to love; to kiss"....
nomtastic's avatar
also, angel's cleft.
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Lovely. Three versions of myth from Wickipedia.
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According to the Jewish Talmud, God sends an angel to each womb and teaches a baby all the wisdom that can be obtained. Just before the unborn baby comes out, the angel touches it between the upper lip and the nose and all that it has taught the baby is forgotten. Commentries on this particular story can be found in "What the Angel Taught you" by Rabbi Noah Weinberg and Yaakov Salomon (ISBN 1-57819-134-3). Similarly, in other folksayings, it is said that an angel "shushes" the baby in the womb, to stop it from talking about heaven, or to forget. Other stories say that it is an indent left by the finger of God. Still more say that it is the spot where the angel put his finger to "shush" the child after having told it a secret.
Nimis's avatar

@gailcalled I’ve never read the Talmud. Would you recommend a particular translation?

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@Nimis. No one actually reads the Talmud. Orthodox Jews study it from the moment they can read until they die. It is an exhausting proposition. Check out the reference I cited above (actually in March of 2007, if you can believe it.)

“The whole Talmud consists of 63 tractates, and in standard print is over 6,200 pages long. It is written in Tannaitic Hebrew and Aramaic. The Talmud contains the teachings and opinions of thousands of rabbis on a variety of subjects, including Halakha (law), Jewish ethics, philosophy, customs, history, lore and many other topics. The Talmud is the basis for all codes of Jewish law and is much quoted in rabbinic literature.” Source

In the source I mention, scroll down to the section entitled, “Translations.” Embarking on the study of Talmud is not for the faint-hearted, I warn you.

Nimis's avatar

@gailcalled 62,000 pages long! Goodness. I was hoping for a comparable heft to King James or something. I’m thinking there aren’t Cliff Notes for this, eh?

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@Nimis; 6,200 pages, please. Even for a Yeshiva bocher or Rabbi Nachman of Breslov, 62,000 pages would be the straw.

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