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Conservatives, have you considered the consequences if you're wrong about things like global warming, the economy and the debt ceiling?

Asked by ETpro (34605points) July 21st, 2011

Cons, what if you’re wrong?

Last winter during all the snows, Con men sneered, “Have you stuck your head out the window?” Where’s Global Warming? Never mind that climate models had predicted extremes of all kinds of weather including cold and snow in the winter when heat stirs the weather pot. But now that we’re in a record heat wave, what’s happened to sticking your head out the window to instantly comprehend global average temperatures around the entire Earth over the past 100 years? What’s up with sticking your head out the window now in a record heat wave? Air conditioner in the way? You only run scientific tests like sticking your head out the window when you know they will give you the answer you want? Is that how you think science really works?

Look, none of us fully understand the Earth’s climate cycles. Ph.D. Climatologist understand it far better than non-scientists and geologists or chemists working for big oil. But all of us run the risk of being wrong.

It’s possible the warming we’ve been seeing is a naturally controlled event that will reverse itself. It’s possible it’s manmade, but the Earth’s feedback mechanisms will reverse it. But it’s also not only possible but likely it is man-made and that the scientific community’s warnings of runaway heating when frozen methane begins to release into the atmosphere are spot on. You claim all the climate scientists of Earth are full of bull and you know more than 10 wise men, but what if you are wrong? Don’t you think the public will remember who opposed doing anything about Global Warming till it was too late to stop it?

Now, what if the climate scientists are wrong? We spend a lot of money (putting a lot of people to work) cleaning up the air and developing renewable energy sources that will eventually free us from our addiction to Middle Eastern Oil. That addiction is currently financing a group of people who largely want us dead. If climatologist are wrong, we didn’t need to do that, but is the outcome so bad?

Think. What if you are the one who is wrong? What will the public opinion be of you Con men if the future unfolds, and proves that you were wrong? With consequences so dire, why doesn’t it make sense to take the safer road?

The same applies to the economy. You say you never, never raise taxes in a recession. Instead, you want to slash spending. But what does history tell us? In the great depression we raised taxes on the top 1% six times and in every case except one, the GDP and employment curve kept going up. TRhe one exception was the tax increase of 1932, and in fact, the economy hit its bottom in 1932 and was in recovery by 1933, but Con men still grab on that one exception and claim it proves the rule. Right -wing think tanks have flooded the Internet with such claims.

We cut spending one time in 1937, because the GOP insisted on it. What we got was the recession within the depression, with a massive drop in GDP and employment flying from 15% to 20% again (at its worst, in 1932, it was 25%.

Bill Clinton raised the top tax rate in 1993 from 31% to 39.6%. The GOP wailed he would destroy business and kill jobs. Nope. 23.1 million new jobs created under Clinton. He had the best jobs creation record of any president since FDR. He balanced the budget and left the largest budget surplus in US history to Bush.

George W. Bush promised he could slash taxes for the rich and preserve the balanced budget and surplus, plus create a bonanza of jobs. Nope. He lied. He created the smallest number of jobs of any president sine Herbert Hoover. In fact, we made more new workers than he made new jobs, and so his net job creation was negative. What about the surplus? He blew through it in his first year and was back into deficits. He doubled the national debt and had to ask for 7 increases to the debt limit. And in the end, when the real-estate bubble finally burst (the only thing that had given him any appearance of success) he left us in the deepest recession since the Great Depression.

So all the evidence we have says that tax cuts for the rich are the LAST thing you do in a bad economy. You claim they are the only thing. What if you are wrong? Don’t you think the public will catch on? Don’t you think they will blame you?

How about not raising the debt limit? Tea Party Con men insist this is the best thing we can do for the economy. Virtually every economist says they are insane, that it will put the economy into deep recession if not full depression. The CEOs of over 300 of the nation’s largest firms have written Congress saying the same thing. Wall Street investment managers have said the same. The National Chamber of Commerce has said so too.

Are you again wiser than all the world’s wise men? What if it’s you that is wrong wan not all the experts? Con men, if you push for a deliberate default on the US debt, and it happens, there is no frigging way you will make it all Barney Frank’s fault. The entire world will be effected by the depression you produce, and the entire world will hold you accountable. What if you are wrong? Why not take the safer road?

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