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How can I be sure my Chosen Kitten is going to be Large?

Asked by majorrich (14741points) May 14th, 2015

I am in need of a large bodied cat to fill the duties of a PTSD service animal. I have selected my candidate from a litter of kittens who are not ready to be away from Mama yet, but he is easily half again larger than all of his littermates. Does that necessarily mean he will continue to be larger?

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Coloma's avatar

Maybe, maybe not. Your best bet if you want a service type cat is to purchase a large and mellow breed like the Rag Doll. My guy is 18 lbs, huge bones, super mellow and not skittish around strangers. Temperament is much more important than size.

Wait until the kittens are a couple months old and evaluate for personality/temperament. Shy, outgoing, bold, timid, curious, aggressive, likes being handled, doesn’t like to be handled, etc.

majorrich's avatar

My old Rascal gave me 14 years of good service. the VA doesn’t do cats though.
That’s him on my picture.

marinelife's avatar

What about adopting a large cat? You’d miss the kitten stage, but you’d miss the kitten trials and tribulations, and then you would know the cat was going to be large.

majorrich's avatar

I have been watching the local shelter as well. Rascal was a Maine Coon, but I’ve heard great things about Rag Dolls too. The kitten part is when Rascal died, his brother was left alone. We adopted a stray kitten thinking he would be less lonely but she bugs the crap out of the poor old boy wanting him to play and he is just too old for that. A young-ling might keep her company while it also gets used to my mood problems when I start stressing.

Coloma's avatar

My Rag Doll “Myles” was estimated to be 5 years old when I adopted him from the shelter 4 years ago. He blended purr-fectly with my 2 yr. old female siamese and they are best friends. Older cats need homes desperately and if you find a really mellow older guy it would probably be a good blend.

wildpotato's avatar

Look at the size of the parents – well, the mother anyway; dad is probably not on site.

Buttonstc's avatar

I have always adopted my cats when they were in the 10 months to 4 yrs. of age range and, trust me, a young adult cat like that still has plenty of energy left to be a good play buddy for a kitten.

With a young adult like that there are multiple advantages. You pretty much know how sizable they’ll be PLUS you’ll also know their temperament (as Coloma pointed out).

I would think that the cat’s personality and temperament traits are the most important part of the equation both for you and the resident kitten and with a young adult like that, you are pretty much guaranteed that what you see is what you get.

That’s really not the case as much with kittens because they can really change significantly in those early months of life.

Maine Coons and Rahdolls are both excellent breed combos. Another one to add to the mix is Norwegian Forest Cats (also called “Weegies”. They are quite large with mellow temperaments generally.

Good luck with your search and hopefully the shelters in your area will have some young cats, possibly purebred or a mix of the breeds already mentioned.

It would be so wonderful if you could find a young cat like that because, statistically speaking, once a kitten is over 6 months old, their chances of adoption drop about 95%.

Practically everyone wants the cute little fuzzball kittens and once they’re out of the cute fuzzy stage (even at 10 months) people tend to just pass them by.

Hopefully, the perfect young adult kitty is patiently sitting in his cage just waiting for you to show up.

BTW I don’t know if you’re aware of this or not, but in the listings on Petfinder, share most of the local shelters post their available cats) you can put in your breed preferences in the area on the left. This isn’t only for purebreeds only because even for mixed breeds, they try to tale a guess at which breeds each cat has the traits of. Most of the shelter workers doing this input have a lot of experience with the various cat breeds so their assessments are usually pretty accurate.

I even put in Calico, which isn’t really a breed, but it brought up a listing of every Callie within a 50 mile radius of me.

rojo's avatar

Sounds like it is too late now but there are breeds of cat that run large such as the Siberian and the Maine Coon. Choosing one of those would increase the odds a bit. Other than that, maybe steroids?

iWannaBeaVet's avatar

Weight isn’t always an accurate prediction of a kitten’s adult size, because a small chubby kitten can weigh more than a larger lean kitten at any given time.

This article is about Maine Coons, but there’s no reason why it wouldn’t apply to Ragdolls. I only recently found this article and haven’t had a chance to research it yet, but the reasoning behind it seems good. I only include the first part here, because it is an article, and has pictures and charts, etc.

http://www.keoka.com/sie.htm
“Size isn’t Everything – They Say” by David Brinicombe
first published in: Maine Coon International – Winter 1996/7


Maine Coons are a large but lean breed, but how do you measure them? A heavy cat may be just obese, so a measurement of length has been devised which can be used for young kittens to adults. A fascinating finding is that this measurement is remarkably consistent and can be used to predict eventual adult sizes of very young kittens.

You’ve got a box full of squeaking maggots squirming around a proud mum and want to know which are going to be worth showing or breeding from. How can you possibly tell at such a young age? Of course you can’t, but in two weeks time you can start gathering real clues about the size they may finish up as adults. What! Two weeks? Yup.

The catch phrase with Maine Coons is “choose type over size”, but I do like the biggies. A small Maine looks like another moggy, but nothing can compare with a magnificent large male. But how large is large? How do you measure a cat? Weight is easy to measure but how do you distinguish between a long skinny kitten and a small fat one? I reckon that weight is not the most fundamental way to measure size, and is not an accurate method of predicting their eventual size as adults.

I claim to be able to predict the eventual size of kittens before they are weaned, to within about an inch. This is perhaps a rather bold claim, and needs qualifying, but my system has turned up something quite remarkable about growth rates. What I do is compare the length of kittens against each other and, knowing what a similar litter did, I can make a surprisingly accurate guess at a kitten’s eventual size as an adult. Measuring What?
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Go to the link to continue reading: http://www.keoka.com/sie.htm

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I have an interest in large-breed cats, particularly Maine Coons, though I have never owned one myself. And these are some (I believe) direct quotes from their owner’s site – in case you want to look for yourself, you can just put part of the sentence inside quotation marks when you search google or yahoo or whatever. It should give you more breeder websites to look at, and most welcome emailed questions.

“Our previous stud boy was a very quick grower and weighed around 5kg at 9 months old but then he seemed to come to a standstill and didn’t put on much more weight at all.”

“Our young stud boy Storm is very small at the moment – only around 3kg at 6 months old but then I know that his dad was a slow grower and stayed long and lean until he was older so I am not worried. He is growing well and maturing, judging by how he loves grabbing the girls round their necks already!!!”

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SOME OTHER THING TO CONSIDER:
~~ If the kitten truly is substantially larger than his littermates, make sure the kitten is actual a sibling/litter mate who is the same age and that you are not being tricked!
~~ A cat as a comfort/assistance animal is unusual. Have you considered a dog? They’re more easily trained and tend to be much more people-oriented anyway.
~~ In order to increase the chance of your kitten growing to be large, both of the kitten’s parents should also be large. Even grandparents, too.
~~ Sexual dimorphism occurs in domestic cats. Male cats grow larger than female queens.
~~ I don’t entirely understand why size would matter for either an emotional assistance animal or for fetching objects for you, but be sure to consider the temperament of the kitten, too. You want to pick one that is people-oriented, not aloof. That seeks out the attention and affection of people, not plays alone or prefers other cats over people. You want a cat that is adventurous, not is afraid or change or new things; that is calm and easy going, not nervous of new situations.
Please consider educating yourself about the MYM or Meet Your Match personality assessment program. Each Cat has its own Feline-ality! The MYM assessement breaks a cat’s Feline-ality down into 9 categories. http://aspcapro.org/feline-ality

~~ Also, very important, keep in mind that the most profound window for socializing kittens is from two to fourteen weeks of age. This range is called the “critical period of socialization” and marks when your pet stops being an open-minded, impressionable kitten and starts being a close-minded adult cat. You’ll find much more reading material if you search for “how to socialize a puppy” rather than “how to socialize a kitten.”
These socialization efforts make the difference in an animal’s outlook on life. Instead of reacting fearfully to new experiences, the pet is comfortable when encountering new things, animals and people.
Socialization is introducing and familiarizing a pet to new experiences – including people, places, objects, other animals – in ways that help the animal learn how to respond to and interact with these experiences appropriately and without fear. The list of things to socialize a service animal to include umbrellas, canes, wheelchairs, bikes, keys, men with beards, people in hats, young children, passing trucks, odd sounds and sudden, loud noises and other animals. Puppy brains are most inclined to accept new experiences between 4 and 16 weeks of age. Kittens only have until they are 12 or 14 weeks old. Missing this window can socially handicap the pet. Of course, they can still learn, but it is harder. Prevention is far better than rehabilitation, so if you can work within the critical learning window, you and the pet have an immense advantage.

Good luck!!!!!

majorrich's avatar

As it turned out we ended up with both Buster and his littermate Mittens. At one year of age, both are in the 15–20 pound range which is enough for me to handle them without danger of injuring them when my fine motor movement isn’t as it should be. They perform their roles as expected, albeit not as well trained as Rascal or Cuddles, but their trainer passed away some years ago. Being, still kittens, their ability to sit still and watch TV with me for longer than a few minutes is something we are working on. I expect the mellowing of adulthood should help in that respect. I cope with my ‘horror’ problems now with a large pillow and they occur far less frequently than they did when we started with animal therapy. I went with cats primarily because for me, they are much easier to care for and I’ve always had cats. I also avoid the stigmatization that occurs for better or worse of needing a service animal for emotional support.

Coloma's avatar

@iWannaBeaVet My Ragdoll who is 10 is about 2.5 feet long all stretched out, has massive bone structure, his front legs are 4 times the bulk of my petite little Tortie Point Siamese and he weighs in at a solid, not fat, solid muscle mass of between 17–18 lbs. He is a monster, which is also one of his nicknames, “Myles” AKA
Monster Man.” haha
Guess who the boss is? My little 8–9 lb. female. He does, on occasion do a take down on her when she is being extra bossy. haha

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