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How do Trump followers treat Russian immigrants?

Asked by Jeruba (55833points) August 5th, 2018

If Trump is demonstrably friendly to one Russian, does that generalize to all Russians, or would he still like to exclude Russian immigrants at the border along with all the rest?

And what attitude do Trumpians show? or can they even tell one nationality from another? Most immigrants don’t wear signs announcing their ethnicity. How do Trump followers interpret anti-immigration attitudes when it comes to Russian immigrants?

Where I live, there’s a very large international population, including lots of Indians, Vietnamese, South Koreans, and other Asians, Brits, all flavors of Europeans, Middle Easterners (many with hijab) and Africans, plenty of Mexicans, and even a few Canadians. And some Russians. Many of these people work in high tech or the healthcare professions, which is how I’ve met a number of them, but also in other settings. It would be a strange day if I went out and heard everyone speaking with the same accent.

I like ‘em all and find people of different cultures fascinating to talk to. I’m just wondering if the Trump gangs are equal-opportunity haters.

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seawulf575's avatar

I can’t answer for all, but I view Russian immigrants the same as every other immigrant. As long as they are entering our country legally and gain their citizenship legally, welcome to our country. If they are trying to scam the system or entering our country illegally, see ya-wouldn’t want to be ya. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

mazingerz88's avatar

A racist trumpian probably looks at any white person regardless of nationality as more human than brown or blacks.

Equally as despicable and deplorable to me are trumpians who think it’s fine to support trump who praises Putin.

flutherother's avatar

One Russian who should not be allowed into the US is Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin. He has purged and jailed his political opponents, curtailed press freedom and assassinated his opponents to the point where it is doubtful if Russia can be considered a democratic country anymore. If that wasn’t enough he has also illegally annexed Crimea and attacked Eastern Ukraine. Why the President of the United States should be so friendly towards him is a mystery.

mazingerz88's avatar

@flutherother Haven’t really paid enough attention to what’s been happening in Russia. Surprised it was even considered as a democratic country. Not when strongman tactics of cruelty and intimidation reign supreme?

Yellowdog's avatar

Obama had no problem with Vladmir Putin conquering Crimea or invading Eastern Ukraine, since YOU brought it up. Trump does not tolerate that. What you are associating with Trump happened on Obama’s watch. Saying that you said ’‘cut it out’ doesn’t cut it.

Trump has imposed heavy sanctions on Russia. Don’t know where you are getting the idea that Trump has been easy on Russia. But people are migrating from all over the world into the U.S. including Russia, Nigeria, China, Nepal, Mexico and Latin America. I don’t see any hostility or dislike of legal immigrants of other races or cultures.

It seems to make you feel good to say it and keep repeating it for some reason. Like, if you say it often enough it will somehow be or become true. Why are you wanting to believe your own lie?

flutherother's avatar

@Yellowdog But Trump does tolerate that. He even flaunts his “good relations” with Putin as an example of his statesmanship. It was Obama who in tandem with the European Union introduced an array of economic sanctions on Russian individuals and businesses following Russia’s annexation of Crimea and backing of the separatists in Eastern Ukraine in 2014.

It was also Barack Obama who in December 2016 expelled 35 Russian diplomats and closed two Russian compounds in response to what the US intelligence community concluded was a Russian government-backed cyber-attack directed to influence the outcome of the 2016 presidential election. Trump on the other hand, incredibly, takes Putin at his word that he didn’t do it.

Yellowdog's avatar

I recall Trump expelling 60 Russian diplomats in wake of the UK nerve agent attack

I also recall BEFORE the election Obama boasting that it was impossible to rig an election, that Russian meddling wasn’t happening, that Mitt Romney was living in the Cold War era if he believed it was happening and that Russia was not our enemy, and scoffing at Devin Nunes’ claims that Russian meddling in the elections and cyber security posed a threat.

I think at least six people in our own U.S. intelligence agencies were more involved in attempting to sway an election than anything the Russians did. Many of them were fired or demoted. And they are not out of the woods yet… So why should ANYONE trust them over anyone else?

flutherother's avatar

You’re right the US did expel 60 Russian diplomats following the nerve agent attack though I don’t think Trump himself announced it.

Obviously Obama did take the Russian meddling threat seriously as should we all.

Why should we trust our intelligence services rather than the Russians? Well because they are ours.

Jeruba's avatar

Can’t some Trump follower tell us: How do Trump followers treat Russian immigrants? Immigrants. You know, people who want to leave one country and enter another in order to live there. Nothing to do with Ukraine or Obama.

Which category trumps the other?—being Russian, or being immigrants? Welcome or not welcome?—according to the Trump backers.

Soubresaut's avatar

This question just brings to my mind Trump’s horrid remarks in a meeting about there being “shithole” countries he didn’t want to accept immigrants from, as compared to countries “like” Norway, whose citizens were acceptable.

From that—Russian immigrants would be okay in his book. Heck, Jeff praise-the-immigration-act-of-1924 would probably love it. But then, we’ve known this administration’s litmus test for a long time, whether its supporters and adherents want to admit it or not.

seawulf575's avatar

@Jeruba I tried answering. I have no problem with Russian immigrants, as long as they are here legally. I’ll be honest, I haven’t known any Russian immigrants for a long time. One of my friends when I was in about 8th grade had parents that had immigrated here from Russia. Nice people.

Yellowdog's avatar

@Jeruba What makes you think Trump or Trump followers would have a problem with legal immigrants OR with Russians?

@Soubresaut Trump complimented Norway after meeting with Prime Minister Solberg last January—all the networks that have a long, exhaustive history of anti-Trump prevarication repeated the ‘shithole’ comment story—particularly CNN and MSNBC. But nobody who was actually at the meeting affirmed it and many denied it. Trump has, however, expressed the sentiment many times that America will not become the ‘dumping ground’ for the world’s poor, unskilled, who do not share our values and not assimilate.

I was involved in Missionary work in Haiti in 2010 after the earthquake—Haiti was so bad before the earthquake it wasn’t all that different after. Only the local children were interested in helping rebuild, not the adults, who mostly sat around and watched. There are a lot of apartment blocs in my city (Memphis) with migrant communities. Some, including Russians, and many Asians, are trying to make a better life and many are trying to assimilate. Most still want to retain their cultural identity and heritage, but many want to assimilate. But it is very obvious that others fit the negative stereotypes.

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