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flo's avatar

If people only talk about the bishop at Aretha Franklin's funeral what are they saying/doing?

Asked by flo (13313points) September 4th, 2018

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Here is one link.
https://www.bbc.com/news/newsbeat-45381687
What is the other thing that some people have said it’s horrible about, but others have not refer to it? And what is that about? If it’s about ” ....can do no wrong philosopy, what goes in the dot dot dot?

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Yellowdog's avatar

Its a big deal in the churches in my city.

The Bishop quoted some studies that black on black crime—more blacks have been killed by blacks in six months than have been killed by the Ku Klux Klan over 90 years. An actual study was cited.

Stats were given as to how rare shootings by cops were compared to random shootings and deliberate criminal activity among blacks in inner cities

I understand the “mindset” as to why this statement (more blacks killed by blacks in six months than by the klan in 90 years) is offensive. But the real concern is that black neighborhoods are literal shooting galleries.

Other comments were made that in times when blacks were an oppressed, segregated minority, they had neighborhood stores, restaurants, churches, etc. and were a real community who supported each other and had families with fathers in the home. After the Civil Rights act of 1964, however, you were not allowed to get a government check if a father was in the home.
And how this has led to the chaos and outright societal breakdown among blacks and their communities.

Basically, old school blacks and in about half the black churches—reflect the views of the Bishop Other blacks and black churches believe more in the ideas of the liberal side and that we need more social welfare programs and that blacks are still victims of societal and government discrimination.

chyna's avatar

I think the general outrage over this is this is a speech for another time. Not at Aretha Franklin funeral. That should have been to honor her.

Yellowdog's avatar

You have to understand the ‘soul’ of the black community or culture that Aretha Franklin was a part of or influenced by—the soul of the black community that has been lost. That was the relevance of the speech being integrated into the life of Aretha Franklin.

The bishop did a sermon / service thirty years prior for Aretha Franklin’s father which addressed the same issues and that’s why Aretha wanted him to speak at her own funeral. The Queen of Soul needs to be understood for what she grew up with and influenced her life.

chyna's avatar

@Yellowdog I thought the OP was asking what was being said about the bishop’s eulogy. I was telling her what I had read. I didn’t see the funeral, nor do I have any feelings one way or the other about what he said. The article I saw said her family was disappointed in the eulogy.

flo's avatar

I didn’t mean the eulogy itself though. But the video I posted doesn’t help, so I posted 2 other videos below. I know the bishop is not in the video but like I wrote in the OP that is already being talked about. So, between the 2 videos below, what are the other 2 or 3 things that people are talking about? Some people are only talking about 1 of them, some the other thing only.
https://www.cnn.com/videos/entertainment/2018/09/02/ariana-grande-aretha-franklin-funeral-alleged-groping-wxp-vpx.hln

https://globalnews.ca/video/4421237/aretha-franklin-funeral-ariana-grande-sings-tribute-to-queen-of-soul Start at 00.25

flo's avatar

…So, there is the Taco Bell comment, (which is probably not in the video) the content of his eulogy, what his hands were doing with Ariana and what he said about it, (“touched”, “too friendly”) and what is the other thing if you just watch the video as soon as she comes out to sing?

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