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Can you imagine Clarence Thomas being appointed to the Supreme Court today?

Asked by stanleybmanly (24153points) November 30th, 2017 from iPhone

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Love_my_doggie's avatar

Can you imagine Roy Moore being elected to the Senate next month?

si3tech's avatar

@stanleybmanly I have no idea why you would ask that. I sat in per TV in the 90s and observed his verbal emotional LYNCHING! My answer is yes I can imagine.

marinelife's avatar

No. There would be a tide of well-deserved belief for Anita Hill.

filmfann's avatar

The difference is a lot of Alabama voters would prefer a child molester elected to the Senate for 2 years (this is a special election) than vote in a Democrat.
The Senators who voted for Thomas would be under greater scrutiny today. They would not elect to approve Thomas to a lifetime bench appointment.

Love_my_doggie's avatar

^^^ And, today’s version of Joe Biden wouldn’t let Anita Hill slide under the bus.

seawulf575's avatar

I couldn’t imagine Obama getting elected to a second term, but it happened. So no…Clarence Thomas is too conservative…the liberals would never go for it.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Obama had his rightful Supreme Court pick stolen, by the GOP.!!!!
The audacity!

Again, you manage to turn something unrelated, into a “Obama” thing. Noticing a patern?

seawulf575's avatar

^No, I don’t know what a “patern” is so I didn’t notice one. One has to ask though, any time there is a political question, why is it that you have such a hard time comparing that question to past politicians? Afraid you might actually have to admit your hypocrisy?

MrGrimm888's avatar

^Obama’s pick was stolen, by the GOP. Would you care to address that?

seawulf575's avatar

^Sure, I’ll respond to that one. You can look at it as it was stolen, but remember, the president only nominates…the congress has to reject or confirm. It is up to congress to go through the process. AND, it was Joe Biden that gave the Repubs the ammo.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2016/feb/22/joe-bidens-1992-opposition-to-lame-duck-supreme-co/

Presidents have made, and had confirmed, nominations to the SCOTUS in election years, but for an opposition party controlled congress, it is extremely rare.

Now, here is another thought for you: You want to try slamming me for bringing Obama into a discussion, yet you continue to try shifting focus by blaming GOP. Notice a pattern?

filmfann's avatar

@seawulf575 Biden did say that, but the Republicans rebuffed it. So, they should follow the rules they made.

MrGrimm888's avatar

@seawulf575 . No. Here’s the pattern. You bring up Obama, as a deflection tactic, and I call you on it. There is the pattern. Look at all the threads, I have been involved in. You brought it up, first every time.

Except once. When I created a thread, specifically for you, to have a discussion about Obama, and Hillary. When the actual subject is brought up, you aren’t there. Which tells me, you only bring it up as deflection…

You may be able to call me on that. I’m drunk, some of the time I Fluther…

And I’m sorry you feel “slammed,” I’m not trying to be mean. I’m simply pushing the debate…

seawulf575's avatar

@filmfann so what you are saying is that if one political party rebuffs something they should stand true to that? Think about what you are saying because you are opening the Dems up for a world of criticism. Just look at the Dems during the Obama reign. They agreed with the idea of pro forma sessions of congress and used it to block Bush II from making recess appointments. Yet when the Repubs did it, they called foul and Obama violated the Constitution to make the appointments anyway. The Dems put forth the concept of sequestration, created by Obama and Jack Lew, submitted to Congress by Tom Harkins (D-IA), yet as soon as it became troublesome, they backed off and blamed Repubs. And let’s look at your statement: It’s okay for Biden to state it but for the Dems to not follow that, but it’s not okay for Repubs to oppose it and not change their minds? I think you are describing a double standard which is, by the way, one of the big reasons the Dems are struggling.

seawulf575's avatar

@MrGrimm888 and your response was immediately a deflection to blaming the GOP and it was for something that was not even related to the topic. I only brought up Obama as an example of something else that I couldn’t imagine. The question was “Can you imagine Clarence Thomas being appointed to the Supreme Court today.” I responded to that question by merely starting off pointing out other things that go on in life that I can’t imagine. I could have said something like “I can’t imagine making an animal as odd as a platypus” but that would have been off topic entirely. I kept it to political things. But it was not a deflection, especially since I went on to respond directly to the question.
But here’s another pattern I have noticed. You try to clock me on something and I defend it and challenge you with questions which you entirely ignore. You do that every time. Look at this thread as the most recent example. You tried slamming me for mentioning Obama. I countered with the question: “One has to ask though, any time there is a political question, why is it that you have such a hard time comparing that question to past politicians? Afraid you might actually have to admit your hypocrisy?” You entirely ignored that question, dodging back to your initial obscure reference to Obama’s pick for SCOTUS being stolen by the GOP (blaming the GOP again, and not on topic) and challenging me to defend it. I did, and even cited references. I again challenged you why you continually blame the GOP and you again dodged, trying to make a personal attack on me. You have dodged two specific questions in this one thread. But here, let me help answer the b.s. accusation you are making to me. You claim to have created a thread about Obama and Hillary especially for me and I didn’t respond. That, you claim, proves that I only bring them up as deflections. I’m sorry sir, you are either extremely narrow minded, extremely arrogant, or just plain foolish. Maybe a combination. I actually had to go back to look at what your question was and why I didn’t answer. You posted it about 4 weeks ago. I looked back and realized that around that time I was out of town on business for one week followed by a week of vacation visiting family. I don’t remember ever seeing your question. If you would like, I would gladly go back to respond. Just let me know. I won’t respond here because then you would accuse me of using it as a deflection, even though you brought it up.

MrGrimm888's avatar

LOL. If you think I’m “attacking” you, you haven’t seen attacks.
I’ve seen, and been part of, some doozies… I even stuck up for you in your “repercussions” thread.

Yes. You responded, eventually, to my SCOTUS question. By saying that it was the dems’ fault. Another shocker.

As far as Obama. You didn’t say platypuses. You said Obama. As always, he’s never far from your mind in a political debate. Perhaps it’s more subconscious, than you or I realize…

The thread about Hillary, and Obama was up at the same time that you were responding to other threads. I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt, that you somehow missed it. There are no expirations, on threads. Feel free to jump in on it if you want. There are three jellies, that immediately come to mind, who are similar minded (right leaning.) None responded. So, the thread was pretty much an echo chamber…

seawulf575's avatar

Yes, I eventually answered your SCOTUS question. And yep, I said the Dems set the table. Funny that you immediately blamed the GOP when I only mentioned Obama’s name (and not as a deflection as you want to try making it). Another shocker. And now, as soon as I cite a reference that Joe Biden set the stage for the idea that a president should not nominate a SCOTUS during an election year, you still don’t respond, you only make more personal attacks on me. Another shocker there, too. And now you are merely trying to cherry pick specific words out of my responses instead of actually reading and responding to them.
Yet you have not once answered any of my questions. I have challenged you on several points and you have, in typical fashion, avoided even mentioning them. No problem trying to
blow me crap because I didn’t respond to one of your questions quickly enough, but you don’t respond at all. So what does that say? You imply I am dodging or deflecting, yet you cannot answer any questions directly posed to you.
Yes, I will go back and respond to your silly question. And I can predict that you will try cherry picking certain words or will try making a personal attack on me because you always do that and cannot actually keep up your side of the conversation.

MrGrimm888's avatar

^If you say so…

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