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How do you define the term 'colonizing'?

Asked by Foolaholic (5804points) February 11th, 2009

I’m having a debate in my Concepts of Community class. My teacher asserts that she (in her dictatorial position of power) is colonizing my class and imposing the will of the academic world on us. I disagree, because as a college student I am A) On their home turf, not my own land, and B) here of my own choice, and therefore not necessarily under their thumb. What do you think?

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Judi's avatar

Didn’t the first settlers help to colonize by their own free will?

dynamicduo's avatar

It seems the teacher is implying she is colonizing the class via colonizing your minds. The imposing of the academic world’s will would support this theory of “educational brainwashing”.

eponymoushipster's avatar

Rise up and drive her out!

If anything, the students are colonizing the school – they come of their own will, set up a place to live and social groupings.

Were the native Americans colonizing the Spanish explorers?

GAMBIT's avatar

Colonizing is when a foreigner joins the natives and begins to set up shop in their land bringing along their own culture and ideas.

Foolaholic's avatar

@dynamicduo

I see what you’re saying. Still colonizing has always had a forceful connotation in my mind, yet we’ve openly offered our minds to this objective learning. I guess what I’m really trying to ask is whether colonizing can be still be colonizing if the natives are allowing it ( or does it become something else)?

@GAMBIT

That’s why I was saying. How can they be colonizing us if we came to them?

GAMBIT's avatar

@Foolaholic – If you were an immigrant new to America and knew nothing about our country and could not even speak the language. America would have to colonize you because you need it for your own personal survival even though you came to it.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@GAMBIT that’s not colonization. that’s assimilation. people who adopt the culture of where they move to are “assimilated” into the culture. ‘Colonization’ is forcing your culture on another group, which was already there.

this is where it gets tricky at college: are you “assimilating” into college culture or are the instructors forcing you to become a certain type of individual?

GAMBIT's avatar

@eponymoushipster – yes those were my first thoughts. I was trying to get at what his teacher is implying. Colonization without its undertones means to settle. Since his teacher is already settled it would seem that colonization would come from an outside source unless the teacher is new to the school?

eponymoushipster's avatar

@GAMBIT frankly, i think it’s a case of a teacher make a rather halfass statement, challenging the students to prove or disprove.

I don’t think the teacher is colonizing anyone.

wundayatta's avatar

She is invading your minds and planting new ideas there. You may say you are a willing participant in this, but you can not give informed consent, because you don’t know what she’s going to do. In any case, you already have some preconcieved notions which she must root out, and replace with her foreign (to you) notions. She is not so much colonizing the class, as colonizing your minds, but perhaps she referred to it that way as a kind of shorthand.

fireside's avatar

The teacher is doing what to your colons?
school sure has changed in the past 10 years

wundayatta's avatar

@fireside Maybe it’s proctology school?

eponymoushipster's avatar

@daloon if it’s proctology, then it could be colonization OR assimilation. <wink>

wundayatta's avatar

@eponymoushipster—unfortunately, your joke may actually offer us usefull information. That could be a good way to describe what is actually happening in the classroom: assimilation.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@daloon i was referencing an earlier comment of mine, where i said as much.

wundayatta's avatar

oops. my bad. didn’t read it closely enough to remember.

LKidKyle1985's avatar

I have to disagree with your arguement, because yes you have free will to be there. However, is it really much of a choice? Go to college OR work at mc donalds? or some other crummy job. If you didn’t have these consequences would you really be sitting in her class. And the whole home turf thing, in reality, don’t most students live on campus in dorms or nearby in off campus apartments. While professors and teachers live away from campus and come to you to teach. Hm.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@LKidKyle1985 college doesn’t guarantee a great job.

fireside's avatar

I would have to agree that she is using the term incorrectly. Generally, a colony is a group of individuals so, in this case, the colony would be the class.

Was she being serious when she said it, or was it done to gauge the reaction of the students? It is a class about different concepts of community, so she might have been trying to stimulate that kind of dissension.

LKidKyle1985's avatar

@eponymoushipster I never said it did, but you would have a difficult time arguing that it did not increase your opportunities of finding a job that was better than crummy.

Jayne's avatar

This: is: colon:izing: of: course:

LKidKyle1985's avatar

@LKidKyle1985 I would but the definition of a crummy job is completely objective anyways, so I’m not gonna get into that losing battle. A crummy job is how ever you define it. Jobs some people consider great others would consider miserable.

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