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SquirrelEStuff's avatar

Has anyone read the Bush terror memos that President Obama's Justice Department released?

Asked by SquirrelEStuff (6673 points ) March 4th, 2009

They can be found here

# Memorandum Regarding Status of Certain OLC Opinions Issued in the Aftermath of the Terrorist Attacks of September 11, 2001 (01–15-2009)
# Memorandum Regarding Constitutionality of Amending Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to Change the “Purpose” Standard for Searches (09–25-2001)
# Memorandum Regarding Authority for Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activities within the United States (10–23-2001)
# Memorandum Regarding Authority of the President to Suspend Certain Provisions of the ABM Treaty (11–15-2001)
# Memorandum Regarding the President’s Power as Commander in Chief to Transfer Captured Terrorists to the Control and Custody of Foreign Nations (03–13-2002)
# Memorandum Regarding Swift Justice Authorization Act (04–08-2002)
# Memorandum Regarding Determination of Enemy Belligerency and Military Detention (06–08-2002)
# Memorandum Regarding Applicability of 18 U.S.C. ยง 4001(a) to Military Detention of United States Citizens (06–27-2002)
# Memorandum Regarding October 23, 2001 OLC Opinion Addressing the Domestic Use of Military Force to Combat Terrorist Activities (10–06-2008)

How do you feel about these memos??

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bythebay's avatar

So, lets say I take the next 6 hours and read all of these, dating back years. 1. Bush is no longer President. 2. As you said yourself, President Obama has his own Justice Department now. 3. Tell me again, why I should read them? What does it change?

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

Because Gordon Brown is speaking before Congress calling for a “Global New Deal.” None of the things that the memorandums address have yet to be repealed. They are all still in place. These things give the government unlimited power against dissent. If the government does things that we do not like, if we even protest, we could be considered terrorists.
They will not take 6 hours to read. They are pretty straight foward and very informative as to how the war on terror is really being conducted.

MSNBC will be reporting on the military detention of US citizens memo any minute now. Check it out if you dont like to read.

bythebay's avatar

No, @chris6137 I love to read. I just don’t like beating a dead horse. After I read them, should I call Gordon Brown and tell him what I think?

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

I’d send him an email instead.

You could call your Congressman and Senators and tell them what you think though. If these things are not investigated and tried in a court of law, if means that all of these things are ok and can be used against us at anytime. Remember, Obama won’t be President forever. i hope

Bri_L's avatar

@chris6137 – Are they all in place? Wasn’t Obama’s first official act to suspend all that bull?

bythebay's avatar

You make a good point about contacting our Congressional Reps. & Senators. I do that often, and certainly won’t stop now.

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

@Bri L

Which act was that? Can you please post a link?
I hope you are right about that but last I read, the Military Commissions Act, FISA, and Patriot Act are all still in place.

Bri_L's avatar

Oh your right. Sorry.

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

Those are the reasons why I could not support Obama. He never addressed those issues. Those were the issues I was worried about during the election. Civil liberties are more important than anything else.

Judi's avatar

@chris6137 ;
Didn’t you support McCain? Do you think he would have repealed the Patriot act the military commissions act or the FISA decisions?

Zaku's avatar

Haven’t read them… yet. I will. Thanks for the link.
@Judi – Ah, binary political choices!

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

@judi

I was a ron Paul supporter all the way. Funny how he has more face time on tv now that his predictions are finally coming true than while he was running for president.

Ron Paul actually introduced legislation to repeal these acts. He also is introducing legislation to audit the federal reserve. If interested, call your reps to help get some backing of this legislation.

Judi's avatar

@chris6137; I apologize then. I could have sworn that I remembered you pushing McCain during the election. My mistake.

VS's avatar

Like most things that come from the government, they are written in such a way as to make any ordinary person with average intelligence, shake their head in amazement that such double speak can exist among rational people. I would be asleep in a few minutes if I were forced to sit and read all that. You’ve heard of psycho-babble? Well, what’s in those memos is government-babble of the worst kind. Written like most of our legislation and tax laws—so no one without a lawyer can understand it. I think there will be some drastic changes once all the Bush damage has been exposed, but I don’t expect the language to improve to a reader-friendly level.

Storms's avatar

I’m guessing this is more than a little bit of hysteria. To tell the truth, all the BusHitler rhetoric made me tune out of current events for almost two years. Don’t think there’s anything to it. If I wake up one day and and some Bush era memo makes it so we can’t criticise the government, I owe you a meal – but right now I’m more worried about all dissent being linked to extremism and violence.

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