Is there a place with NYC's culture and atmosphere and LA's weather?

San Francisco. Edit – I hear Paris is pretty happening, too. Don’t know about the weather, but I suspect it’s mild.

When you say culture, do you mean literally the museums, theatre, symphony, or are you talking about the people?

@JLeslie All of the above if possible. If not, the museums, theatre, etc.

I would say the closest thing is San Francisco but San Fran’s people culture is a stretch. Way too PC. And there is no cultural attractions even close to NY-thousands of museums, plays, galleries, restaurants. But hey the property values are almost as high as NY and the weather is certainly milder in the winter. :)

In the USA?

Yes, please. That’d be the most realistic goal.

Miami? New Orleans? Monte Carlo? Rio de Janeiro?

Are you guessing?

Sydney

USA people. You might like south east FL. It is very NY, but mostly New Yorkers from Long Island, not the city. There is not the plethora of museums like NY, but there are some, and Ft Laud, Palm Beach, and Miami get the broadway tour shows, symphony, plus others. It is hotter than LA in the summer, but you do get about 7 months of springlike weather. It is not like NY in that you can’t just walk outside and access everything readily, it has more of a suburban feel. Although there are downtown areas that you can have many things in walking distance. People can be very casual to stylish, you see it all. I lived in Boca Raton, Delray Beach, and South Beach. I loved it.

Miami, Florida Besides, a lot of the folks that live there are from New York already.

I wonder why that is

It’s the weathah, honey. It’s hahd on the arthuritis.

I don’t think I could take much of that accent lol…although the weather is hard on the joints :(

San Diego

San Diego is very nice. Expensive, but nice.

New York is what it is. The weather in L.A. is the weather in L.A. You can’t have it all. And anyway, L.A. has everything N.Y. has (and more), it’s just spread out.

@Facade You wonder why there are a bunch of New Yorkers in Southeast Florida?

Yes

Well, it is warm in SE Florida in the winter, bikini weather. Years ago people would vacation there from NY, and then they started retiring there, and finally their chidren even moved there before they retired. The Jews used to go to the Catskills, and now they go to Florida, what can I tell you. It’s a stereotype, but true. Just watch The Nanny and Seinfeld.

Oh I see

When I lived in Florida we used to joke about the Northerners in the south and the Southerners in the north. Of course, when I lived up north, around about February everybody wanted to be in Florida or the Caribbean. Darn yellow snow!

@tinyfaery
Here are some of the museums in New York City
16,000 restaurants, countless art galleries, architecture like nowhere else…
I’m sorry she’s my girl. i have to represent
And this barely scratches the surface.

Alice Austen House Museum
American Craft Museum
American Folk Art Museum
American Museum of Natural History
American Museum of the Moving Image
American Numismatic Society
Americas Society
Artists Space
Asia Society and Museum

Bronx Museum of the Arts
The Brooklyn Botanic Gardens
The Brooklyn Children’s Museum
The Brooklyn Museum of Art

Carnegie Hall/Rose Museum
Central Park Zoo/Wildlife Gallery
The Children’s Museum of the Arts
Children’s Museum of Manhattan
The Cloisters
Cooper-Hewitt

Dahesh Museum
Dia Center for the Arts
The Drawing Center

Ellis Island Museum
Empire State Building Lobby Gallery

Museum at FIT
Forbes Magazine Galleries
The Frick Collection

Grey Art Gallery
Goethe House
Solomon R. Guggenheim Museum
Guggenheim Museum SoHo

Hayden Planetarium
The Hispanic Society of America

International Center of Photography
Intrepid Sea-Air-Space Museum
Isamu Noguchi Garden Museum

Jewish Museum

LaGuardia and Wagner Archives
Lower East Side Tenement Museum
Madame Tussaud’s New York
Merchant’s House Museum
Metropolitan Museum of Art
The Morgan Library
Mount Vernon Hotel Museum & Garden
Municipal Art Society
El Museo Del Barrio
Museum for African Art
Museum of American Financial History
Museum of Chinese in the Americas
Museum of Jewish Heritage
Museum of Modern Art
Museum of the City of New York
Museum of the Moving Image
Museum of Television and Radio

National Academy Museum
National Design Museum
National Museum of the American Indian
New Jersey Children’s Museum
New Museum of Contemporary Art
New York Botanical Garden
New York City Fire Museum
New York City Police Museum
New York Hall of Science
New-York Historical Society
New York Public Library
New York Transit Museum
Nicholas Roerich Museum

PS1 Contemporary Art Center
Pierpont Morgan Library

Queens Historical Society
Queens Museum of Art

Rose Center for Earth and Space

Schomburg Center
Seaman’s Church Institute
Snug Harbor Cultural Center
Sony Wonder Technology Lab
South Street Seaport Museum
Staten Island Institute
Studio Museum in Harlem

Taipei Gallery
Theodore Roosevelt Birthplace

Ukrainian Museum

Wave Hill
Whitney Museum of American Art
Whitney Museum/Philip Morris

@Facade On the west coast of FL there are a bunch of midwesterners. They head down 75 and get off in Tampa, Sarasota, and Naples.

Back to SE FL, another thing like NY is there is some diversity, not near as diverse as NY, but more than the middle of the country. Depending what city, people from Latin America (especially Brazil, Venezuela and Colombia, and of course Cubans), and some Europeans during certain times of the year. And, Canadians too, if you consider Canadians adding to the diversity?

lol, I do

More diversity…the Jews we talked about. Last estimate I heard was 1 in every 3 households in Boca Raton has a Jewish person living in it. I think the average for SE FL is around 25% Jewish. That is, if that counts as part of the diversity to you? NYC is about the same, it was 25% in NYC 10 years ago, not sure now, I did hear recently that it is still true in NYC that 50% of the caucasians in NY are Jewish. Jews tend to care about the arts, not that others don’t.

Hmm, interesting. I never thought about it.

I think you should take a vacation and check it out.

I would love to

@JLeslie
That’s high. About 12% of it’s residents are Jewish but it has the highest concentration of Jews outside of Tel Aviv. Another reason why it was attacked on 9/11 no doubt.

I think cold is underrated. Amsterdam was cold but very lively on a Saturday night.
I wonder what nightlife is like in Moscow.

Rome has nice weather and more museums than anyone could ever visit. Some famous opera too. And everyone wears black on hot days, just like I’ve witnessed in New York.

Tokyo has about the same population, somewhat higher population density than New York and is at the same latitude as LA. It has fewer museums than NYC but considerably more than Terhan, which is the next closest large city at the same latitude as LA.

Rome is roughly one-third the size of New York City and roughly the same latitude. Tel Aviv is roughly one tenth the size of Rome, and somewhat further south than LA.

San Francisco is one-tenth the size of NYC, but block for block, has just as much history, charm and culture.

Tip of the Iceberg.

Plus we have observatories, beaches, mountains, valleys, theme parks, and I can go to a 5 star restaurant in jeans.

@SeventhSense 12% of NYC? Is that what you mean? That sounds reasonable, I thought the 25% was an old stat. I never really thought of 9/11 related to so many Jews in NYC; but, every time I am in a synagogue I think I am in a place that makes me a target. And, hell, just living in Boca Raton. NYC just continues to get more and more diverse over time.

Miami does not have LA’s weather.
Miami is (for me) way too hot and humid in the summer.

LA averages 80s F in Aug-Sep. Sometimes it hits 90. Rarely does it hit 100 F.
The winter averages 60s/70s
80s are not uncommon.
As someone else pointed out, LA has lots of culture, but it’s very spread out.
You would never run out of great restaurants.
There is theater, a few actor live in the area, you know :-)

No other US city has the museums of NY.
But a few of my favorites around LA are the two Gettys, Norton Simon, LACMA, Huntington Library & Museum, the Hammer…

Also, you within a day’s drive of San Francisco, San Diego, Mexico, Las Vegas, unbelievable national parks (Grand Canyon,Joshua Tree, Yosemite, Brice, Yosemite, Death Valley, Sequoia just to name few)

@jaytkay If it weren’t for the 10 million other people that agree with us, I would say Los Angeles is one of the best places in the US. It’s the sheer number of people there that make so un-attractive.

@jaytkay is right Miami does not have LA weather all year, but it comes very close about 6 months of the year. Plus, I would not move to Miami, I would live somewhere between Ft. Lauderdale and Jupiter (I think the RECORD HIGH is 99) but they do get up in the 90’s in the summer and the catch is at night in July, August, and September it is still in the low 80’s at night. So for 3 to 4 months there is no real break from the hot, and it is humid. But, it is much like paradise the rest of the year. I would rather complain about the heat than the snow, so I did not complain much. I suffer much more in the heat living here in Memphis (I think the record high is something like 107). I tend to be very dry, so I like the humid weather.

San Diego.
Except San Diegans think slower and move slower than New Yorkers. But not horribly stupid-slow.