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What can you tell me about "The Human Centipede"? Please read the details section.

Asked by josie (30934points) January 19th, 2011

I am not a prude, nor am I squeamish-skipping the details, I have seen some very horrible stuff.
But at the same time, I have seen selfless and heroic behavior.
I think humanity is, on measure, a wonderful thing.
However, that opinion was challenged by the sheer depravity of this flick.
What can you tell me about the people who made this piece of shit?
Who produced it?
Who directed it?
Is this typical of their “work”?
Where did the money come from?
Has it made a profit?
Etc.
Did you see it?

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lucillelucillelucille's avatar

From what I have heard,it is disgusting.That kind of movie,IMO,is designed to titillate dingbats.
I will never see it and you can’t make me! ;)

Jude's avatar

My g/f and I watched it on the weekend. It was stupid. I laughed at how ridiculous it was and the acting was horrible.

It was crappy. ;-)

iamthemob's avatar

I don’t think it’s any different than “Hostel” or “Wolf Creek” or “The Texas Chainsaw Massacre.”

Torture porn is torture porn.

tinyfaery's avatar

Meh. I don’t think it even warrants this discussion.

Vunessuh's avatar

The film was written, directed and produced by Tom Six, a Dutch film director. He’s only directed 3 unknown films before this one: Gay in Amsterdam, Honeyz and I Love Dries.

I don’t know who funded the project and for how much, but I do know the investors didn’t discover the full nature of the film (particularly the mouth to anus aspect) until after it was complete.

It did actually win 4 Best Movie awards at various horror film festivals as well as an award for Best Ensemble Cast.

I imagine the film was relatively profitable because Tom Six is making the sequel and there’s no way you can hide the storyline from any investors now.

I did see it, and agree with @iamthemob.
I was very curious which is why I watched it in the first place, but I didn’t care for it much at all. The only thing I appreciated was how some of the scenes were shot and edited, preferably when the human centipede was walking up the stairs. It was a very intricate scene and I think they did a decent job making it relatively horrific.

Cruiser's avatar

Geeze it’s only a movie. Hot chicks…super creepy dude…actors with their mouths stitched to someones ass….It will be a smash hit! XD The trailer actually looked like it was a well made movie…great lighting with a major creep out look and feel. I bet it scared the crap out of the youngins.

ANef_is_Enuf's avatar

@Vunessuh and @Cruiser really? That surprises me. I saw the trailer and I thought that it looked so poorly put together that I would never even bother to watch it. Not even because I’m put off by the plot or the “horror” aspects. I just thought that the plot and the acting looked truly horrible in the trailer.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

I find it an interesting concept to explore but will probably not see the movie, based on the trailer.

ucme's avatar

Formularic bullshit. Half expected to see Woody Allen put in a cameo appearance. That’s one centipede that doesn’t have any legs…if you catch my drift.

Cruiser's avatar

@TheOnlyNeffie I studied film in college and agree with @Vunessuh primarily from the craftmanship aspect knowing what it takes and how really hard it is to make a good looking movie. Plus if you are a student of film you begin to appreciate the nuances and little things almost every director will attempt to do with their movies. This one appears to pay homage to many of the great horror movies and despite the ridiculous premise, it did a worthy job of creating horror even if it was done with cheap disgusting components. That is what kids will spend their money on and apparently this formula worked well for the movie makers here.

I may hate a song but I will always give props to good musicianship or production same with movies.

El_Cadejo's avatar

Having seen the movie, I honestly dont understand all the hype. I mean yea the premise is pretty fucked up but they really dont show anything that graphic in it at all. Most horror movies that are shown in theaters show a lot more than this movie did. The acting in this movie is GOD AWFUL. The only horror to be found here is how horrible it is

To sum it up, this is a movie to watch with some friends and a big bottle of alcohol. Its so bad you’ll be laughing your ass off from start to finish.

Jude's avatar

” Its so bad you’ll be laughing your ass off from start to finish.”

And, we did.

Although, at times, I was covering mine. ~

Really, it is not well done at all (personal opinion).

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Jude I completely trust your review.A stupid movie is a stupid movie.

El_Cadejo's avatar

ok so maybe ass wasnt the best word choice… :P

Vunessuh's avatar

@Cruiser “I may hate a song but I will always give props to good musicianship or production same with movies.”
Thank you! GA. My thoughts exactly. It’s good to be able to differentiate between the good and bad components of a film. The acting and script wasn’t up to par and perhaps while the storyline was original it could have been executed better, the way some of it was shot and therefore had the ability to make you feel is what I can recognize and appreciate. I can tell where the director was passionate most and that for him, in a few specific scenes, it was art.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Vunessuh -A great film shouldn’t have to be over analyzed and mined for a small tidbit of “skill”.It should be pretty apparent all the way through.Movies like that,most certainly have a shock factor that mostly appeals to teens and people that haven’t seen enough of real life horrors.

Vunessuh's avatar

I never said it was a great film. That’s your first mistake.

Cruiser's avatar

@Vunessuh I made my comments base on the trailer I could find at it all looked good albeit formulaic. They could not have made the creepy dude any more creepy. And the lighting was top notch. My best friend is a key grip out your way and the stories he has told the length those guys will go to light a scene is amazing and they do pride themselves with the final look they get. I would have loved to see the movie in the theater only to watch the audiences reactions.

@lucillelucillelucille I would argue your reaction to a painting or a sculpture when a non-artist like me would discount a work of art because I didn’t like what I saw. Harsh.

El_Cadejo's avatar

@Cruiser if you have netflix you can stream it off there. Just dont forget your bottle of alcohol. Youll need it…

Mikewlf337's avatar

Seems like a movie with no plot and relies only on shock value. I prefere horror movies with plot and character depth. This is nothing more than a shock film about attaching humans humans anus to mouth. Seems like a disgusting scat porn flick to me. The thought of it makes me vomit. Trying to take advantage of what the Saw series has done. The Saw series where great and every movie was very good. They had plots and character depth and that’s why they are so good. I don’t want to see people with their mouth stiched to another’s anus. I really don’t want to see people being forced to eat another’s feces. That makes me vomit. I don’t want to vomit, I watch movies to be entertained. From what I hear, this movie is sick beyond words. Just like @lucillelucillelucille said. This movie is only for the depraved. I will not watch this.

El_Cadejo's avatar

@Mikewlf337 you wont actually see anything in this movie. if you could stomach saw this is a cake walk.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Cruiser—I can appreciate tech skill in anything,but that does not mean the subject matter will appeal to me when it comes to things like books, art,music and film.Besides,if you gave me a critique of my art,do you really think I would give a damn??
@Vunessuh—That film isn’t worth a shit and you can’t make me watch it. ;)

As Josie pointed out,he has seen some horrendous things while in the service.I understand his point completely.My dad,a Marine, who was a war veteran and had been through some terrible things in Korea had a good talk with me about seeking out gratuitous images of people suffering for the hell of it.He taught me a very good lesson about using vile images and the pain of others for entertainment. No thanks.

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille I was not referring to your art…simply art in general. There are many things at the Art Institute here in Chicago I would not consider art where you might….not that you give a damn! ;)

Mikewlf337's avatar

@uberbatman Gore doesn’t bother me. The whole ass to mouth feces eating that this movie offers is something that just makes me sick. Saw had gore and backed it up with character depth. This movie just seems to rely on making people sick. I read a bunch of reviews and it seemed like almost everybody with the exception of a few thought it was a crappy and boring movie when the shock value wore off. I don’t want to see people eat poop lol.

ANef_is_Enuf's avatar

I’d just like to say that I’m with @Mikewlf337 on this one. Gore doesn’t bother me. Blood, guts, body parts, organs, etc… I can handle it. No problem. Eating shit? That makes me vomit. Literally. 2 girls 1 cup made me throw up twice. And I only watched it once. Just thought I’d throw that out there.

Jude's avatar

It’s implied, yes, but, you don’t see anything. Just a mouth sewed to an ass.

The crazy doctor was awesome, though. Very creepy. My girlfriend’s response:
“Those crazy Germans”.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Cruiser—I know that.If I gage your taste in art by what you consider a watchable movie-the one above??—It is a guarantee that I will not take your art reviews seriously…..and not give a damn about any future reviews in either art form.
Life is too short to waste on bullshit fims.

Mikewlf337's avatar

@Jude you know the germans make good stuff :D lol

Vunessuh's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Like I stated above, I didn’t like the movie, but there were some scenes that I was impressed with because of the craftsmanship in a few particular departments. Perhaps they stuck out to me because the rest of the film wasn’t very good. I don’t understand why you take issue with me pointing that out. Even as @Jude stated above, the doctor was awesome, but the rest of the movie was shit.
We all watch, study, experience and absorb movies differently. We all take away different things from them.
And what makes you think I watched the movie “for the hell of it?”
It’s an assumption that anyone who’s seen it has only done so because the pain of others is entertaining to them. That’s a massive generalization to a huge population that has an appreciation for the horror genre.

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille If I gauge your comments to my comments as informed or relevant then I too cannot take yours as anything more than knee-jerk reactions to defend your own take on a movie you never saw nor bothered to even look at a trailer. Plus, I never ever said the movie in itself was one worth watching at all. I only commented that certain elements of its construction were notable and well done. Think of all the stinker movies that win Oscars for lighting, art direction etc. Movies even bad ones like this can have terrific efforts by one of hundreds of people involved and IMO worthy of recognition! ;))

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Vunessuh—Is it worth 90 minutes of your time to sit through a stinker of a film for the lighting?? XD Nap time!
I stand by my statement of not wanting to be entertained by the suffering of others.
Sewing someon’s lips to another’s rectum is a juvenile idea at best.Where is the value in watching that? If you want to see good movie making skills,study the masters,film classics,things that have stood the test of time,not some BS film.
When I studied art,I didn’t waste much time on velvet Elvises. ;)

Joker94's avatar

I watched the first half, the acting was pretty poor with the exception of the doctor. I didn’t catch the last half (I was at a party and wanted to see some other friends), but my friends who did watch it all the way through looked like they just witnessed a murder

Jude's avatar

I seriously covered my bum at one point.

Mikewlf337's avatar

My anus hurts now. thanks Josie for creating this thread. Using the bathroom will never feel the same again!.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Cruiser—I won’t waste my time on movies like that.I won’t pay to watch a movie for the key grip’s work,K? I want all-around good entertainment.I also wont try to justify my bad choice in picking a film by looking for a smidgen of genius in a pile of junk.
Life is too short.Life is too short.Life is too short…....................

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Lucky for you art museums have more than one piece of art! And I can only imagine how different the experience would be if all it contained was great art….or all we ever watched was great movies…or all our relationships were perfect. Life is too short indeed to not waste time on stinkers…but what fun would life be if we didn’t that chance to experience the bummers of all that life has to offer and only makes the good stuff all that more enjoyable. ;)

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Cruiser—I’ll sum it up in one sentence for you.
That movie is bullshit.

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Are you sure about that? XD XD XD!

Vunessuh's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Nobody is justifying a bad film choice. I’ve spent many hours watching movies that were no good.
I’ve never spent any time trying to justify why I’ve wasted my time on them. And it happens when you watch a lot of movies. I wouldn’t know what I thought of anything if I never watched anything. My comment about what I did appreciate in the film wasn’t to defend the fact that I watched it. I was making an observation. That’s it. Kind of like when you watch a movie and you say, “wow, that was really bad, but I did enjoy this part…bladdy blah…” Pretty simple, huh? Stop making assumptions into my character and motivations based on one film and my opinion. Thanks.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Cruiser -Why would you purposely seek out life’s lowest common denominator?The base,the irrelevent?The grotesque?

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Vunessuh – This is what the question addresses! What do we know or make of people who make or watch this type of thing?
I will make assumptions about someone’s character everytime they demonstrate questionable behaviour.In my opinion,someone who purposely seeks entertainment based on the suffering of others,or makes something that involves human debasement has a serious character flaw.I will judge because I have a right to.I do not need your permission or anyone else’s to judge character.

By the way,I don’t have to watch that movie(nor will I ever) because you told me about it.;)

tinyfaery's avatar

Just as long as you know others will do the same to you.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@psychocandy -I am so not afraid of that.;)

tinyfaery's avatar

Okay, then.

Mikewlf337's avatar

I hope nobody is getting into feirce argument over this movie :(

Jude's avatar

We watched it out of curiosity. To see what all the hype was about. Much ado about nothing (as it turned out).

Mikewlf337's avatar

@Jude Hype usually equals garbage.

Jude's avatar

@Mikewlf337 Found that out, yes.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Jude—I completely trust your movie review too.;)

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Life is full of surprises and sometimes you just don’t know really bad things are till the end of the movie hence why you hear people say “that was a bad ending”. I think you even told me how you liked the Rolling Stones until you say them live! Why would you pay that kind of money to see a band you say sucked so bad live and I don’t see that as a reason to then say they never recorded a good song.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Cruiser—A date took me to see the Rolling Stones,btw.He must have been mad at me.
You must get fooled alot by movie hype and advertisement.The name of that movie alone is a clue as to what type of crap you will be paying to see.

Vunessuh's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Last time I checked, I never recommended The Human Centipede to you or anybody else nor have I ever suggested it was a decent film.
If you’ve noticed, I haven’t disagreed with your points, because I do know that people watch movies for many different reasons, enjoying human suffering included, but I have taken it personally. I do feel like you’re attacking my insignificant positive observation about the film as being some type of character flaw. I haven’t advertised, advocated or justified that the film was even remotely worth watching and as you suggested, I didn’t watch the film because I was excited about watching someone eat shit. I’m just not entirely understanding if you think this of me or if it’s just a general comment or both.
So, I could be gathering something wrong from this conversation.

Facade's avatar

I saw it. I like gross movies, but it was pretty outrageous.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Vunessuh-The question being posed, deals with our opinions of this genre of film and the people who make it.What is implicit in the question is what we also think of the people who seek it out/like it ,somehow value it.I answered it truthfully.That is what I think.I do not seek out gratuitous gore,sex and violence in my entertainment.I prefer it to be intimated,as it is far more powerful that way.
I never said you recommended this film.I said that you told me about it.Right then and there,I knew that I would never watch it,due to your description.
”...stock promoters think this is a necessary ingredient for successful motion pictures. They seem to forget the one basic principle of our business—illusion. We’re in the business of magic. I don’t think it hurts a child to see anything that has the illusion of violence in it. All our fairy tales have some kind of violence—the good knight riding to kill the dragon, etc. Why do we have to show the knight spreading the serpent’s guts all over the candy mountain?” John Wayne

Jude's avatar

@Facade Did you cover your bum?

Facade's avatar

@Jude Nope. I sat spread-eagle right in front of the tv. I like it rough.

Jude's avatar

@Facade you’re a braver girl than I. Nothing goes in there for me. I prefer to be the giver, not the receiver.

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Judging by your choice of dates, you must get fooled a lot too! Like I said some movies look good until the ending but there just might have been some good parts worth seeing. ;)

Vunessuh's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Then you have a very rudimentary understanding of why some people can and do place value on certain aspects of a film regardless of whether or not they enjoyed it and why a rather large population respects and appreciates the horror genre for legit reasons other than being fucked in the head. :)

josie's avatar

With due respect, I will jump in here-
A few years ago, my (then) teenage sons went with me to New York. I made them go with me to the Guggenheim. The featured exhibit was some post modern bullshit, but that aside, they got bored.
I told them to look at art in the following way: Imagine an alien race comes to earth in a million years. All biological traces of humanity are gone-no fossils, no skulls, no nothing. The only thing left are abundant examples of human art. The only thing the aliens have to evaluate the extinct human creature is their art. From the art, the aliens make a qualitative moral judgement about us.
With that in mind, I told my sons, look at these objects and wonder whether or not you would like to be judged by them.(BTW, it really did not inspire my sons that much-They are like I was back then. Charmng neanderthals. No surprise)
I am not saying that movies ( or photography) are really art, but they get lumped into the category, so enough said about that.
Thus, imagine that humanity will be evaluated by this movie, in contrast to, say, the beautiful stuff that an artist like @lucillelucillelucille does. How could anybody want to risk their legacy in this fashion? How does this trash ever see the light of day in a free society? Why don’t the producers, or theatres that show it, go broke in an instant?
It would be nice if people had more self respect.

Cruiser's avatar

@josie People tend to attack the low hanging fruit to make themselves feel good about the things they don’t approve of. Nobody forces anybody to do what they don’t choose to do and to criticize anyone for doing so especially making or seeing a dumbass movie IMO is the greater crime. 2 years from now no one will remember this movie and I say fuck what an Alien thinks about us!! If and when that ever happens, they probably will consider us a delicacy! ;)

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Cruiser -As I said,it was a date.He brought tickets.I was his girlfriend.I went.
@Vunessuh That genre appeals to the basest of human purient interests.You are confusing what the population in general go to see a movie for entertainment
The value people place on those films is based on it’s content and the genre not the f’n lighting.XD
It appeals to those with purient interests. There is a difference between what used to be considerd horror and what has now become gratuitous slasher flicks.Ask any veteran how badly they want to see human dismemberment glorified for entertainment.

TexasDude's avatar

You clearly haven’t seen Salo or A Serbian Film.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@josie-Well said! also thank you! :)

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille A date…a girlfriend either way you went by your choice….nothing you should be criticized for no matter how bad the show.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Cruiser -I did it for love.
If someone critiques my choice in music,good or bad,you can bet I won’t care…or cry about it.;)

josie's avatar

@Cruiser It isn’t what aliens think of us. That is just a construct to make a point-as you know. The point is, given free choice, what is happening to some people that they do not simply turn their back on stuff that is degrading to their identity? I would never consider censoring such stuff, but it would be nice if people saw this as the insult to their fundamental nature that it is. You can’t defend it as virtuous. So how does one defend it? I think secretly you know this.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@josie Damn,you’re good! ;)
@Cruiser-My coments are not criticisms.I am flat out judging.I judge each and every moment of every day.I decide what I do or what I don’t like.I sure as hell am not going to let society do that for me,especially those who are concerned with the least common denominator.

Vunessuh's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille A choice is a choice. Criticizing an entire population and assuming there is only one reason for why they watch a movie is ridiculous. Nobody is whining that you disagree with their personal taste in films. We’re just doing the same thing you’re doing when defending the reason behind going to a shitty concert and wasting your time because life is too short, right? Hence there are many different reasons for why people spend time on the movies, music and other forms of entertainment in their life.
Do some people watch movies because they wanna jack off to a limb dismemberment? Yes. Does everybody? Fuck no.
You file a lot of stuff under one category, including the definition of entertainment. Your argument has been nothing but black and white.
We don’t give a shit that your taste is different.
But the fact that you think there is only one answer to what an entire population must be as people because they watched a movie, regardless of whether or not they even liked it, is more of a reflection on you than it is on anyone else.

josie's avatar

@Vunessuh No, the movie is a reflection on others, not @lucillelucillelucille

Vunessuh's avatar

You’re accurate, but the movie isn’t necessarily all I’m talking about right now.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Vunessuh-I’m not criticizing, Vunessuh.
I am judging,and I judge this particular film dehumanizing, based on YOUR description among other things.I judge those who would find this type film of value to be not the kind of person I would let babysit my dog.
We are talking about entertainment here and values! Whether you want to acknowledge it or not,there is such a thing as right and wrong and black and white.Living in shades of grey is an excuse to persue purient interests in this context.You can’t have your cake and eat it too and this is a matter of what my tastes are because that was implicit in the original question.Try to stick the original point to the question.You’re beginning to sound whiny.
I certainly hope that my judgements are a reflection on me.I would not want to be perceived as one who would find this garbage of any value.

Jude's avatar

When we started watching it, my girlfriend said “all that I can say is that I get to be the front!!!” Cracked me up..

Vunessuh's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Well, yeah. It is a pretty shitty, dehumanizing film. You’re not making any profound discoveries or anything. I’m sure plenty of people watched this film without thinking they were going to actually enjoy the hell out of it. Curiosity is a powerful emotion as @Jude describes and there are a large number of people who like to be scared and surprised and pushed to their limits, among other reasons. For the record, there is a big fat line between watching real dismemberments like Faces of Death (where your argument would withstand much better) and a movie where people can and do appreciate the other elements that went into making the film other than what it’s about. Someone with a background in film might understand and appreciate this more.
With entertainment and personal preference, shades of grey are very important. If with them, you think it’s an excuse to ONLY persue prurient interests, then without them it’s an excuse to justify narrow-mindedness and pretty severe intolerance and complete disregard for ANY interests other than your own.

And if you stuck to YOUR original point, you wouldn’t look like a hypocrite about that concert.

Cruiser's avatar

@josie I respect your sentiments and the point you are making but you need to make a choice…your first answer was all about what aliens thought about us
“It isn’t what aliens think of us.”
and in your touching lesson to your son….“Imagine an alien race comes to earth in a million years. All biological traces of humanity are gone-no fossils, no skulls, no nothing. The only thing left are abundant examples of human art. The only thing the aliens have to evaluate the extinct human creature is their art. From the art, the aliens make a qualitative moral judgement about us.”

@lucillelucillelucille I have accepted that there will always be people like yourself who would choose to judge people than accept that the world is a whole spectrum of diversity of choice and opinions. Perhaps someday you will find that Ayn Rand utopia you seem to think exists out there….good luck!

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Vunessuh-You really can’t keep your preferences and shades of grey within within the context,can you?
I decide for myself whether something has value and yes,I have complete disregard for any interests a person would have who would use an excuse like “shades of grey” to give validity to garbage that dehumanizes for entertainment.They didn’t make this film for students or “someone” with a background in film to gain their appreciation.Follow the money.
Hypocitical about the Stones? You are grasping.

@Cruiser -I don’t judge people for anyone else’s benefit,other than my own.You may want grotesque disembowelments to be part of your “spectrum of diversity” but I do not have to tolerate it by remaining quiet about it in mine.
If that floats your boat,I am sorry for you!

Vunessuh's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille We shall agree to disagree.
I love you very much and you fight to the death, man! XD
I respect. :D

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille If you truly judged people for only your own benefit I would doubt we would have witnessed such a spectacle of your grandiose “judgments” here! ;)

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Vunessuh -Exactly! You too! :)
@Cruiser—You don’t know me very well.

Cruiser's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Apparently not! I do love surprises though! ;)

iamthemob's avatar

WOW this thread blew up….

Alright, I’m going to step in here. I actually saw the film, and honestly…I thought it was friggin’ great. I comment again only because there seems to be a backlash against it.

Here’s my deal – unlike other torture porn of it’s like – it actually has a certain strange amount of respect for each of its victim characters. There’s not a single one that is treated callously by the director – all are really very humanized.

The only character that’s ridiculous is, in fact, the villain – and he is ridiculous to a laughable degree, and from the beginning. He is the one that is portrayed as totally, batshit crazy and inhuman. for those of you that haven’t seen it, let me demonstrate:

In the beginning, when he’s talking about the procedure, he uses…not a powerpoint…but an OVERHEAD projector with transparencies. And not that he’s printed out…but that he’s drawn. And…in all honesty…the drawings are little better than stick figures. This is how we’re introduced to him as a brilliant surgeon. So…so ridiculous.

If it’s not clear that the villain is camp at this point…let me tell you…the villain…is…fuckin’...camp. But if you look at any of the victims…their story is very human. Very subtle. Not that grotesque. And most of the horror is suggested rather than shown.

I thought the movie played very well…people seem to just react against the fact that “eww…that’s gross.” This movie is like “Showgirls” – you have to relate to the victims even though you really, really don’t want to. Only the acting is better in this one.

Cruiser's avatar

—@iamthemob You had to be the spoiler for the move I wanted to rent this weekend!! Dang! ;)—

iamthemob's avatar

@Cruiser – that’s only about 1.5 minutes of the movie. The rest is well worth watching. And the villain is clearly camp well before that. ;-)

Cruiser's avatar

Are you sure?? Apparently defending your presence at this movie may be hazardous to “their” self esteem and lay you vulnerable to extra butter or salt attacks on your popcorn!! ;)

Jude's avatar

Alright. Enough.

Now you are just coming off like a jackass.

absalom's avatar

@Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard – I loved Salo.

People generally go to see horror films and gore films so they can be shocked, awed, horrified, offended, et cetera. People do not generally see these movies to enjoy or study character development and narrativity.

If you approach the film like this – like someone with philistine pretensions – then you’re either fooling yourself or just plain ‘doing it wrong’.

You probably knew before watching that this movie was going to try to offend you. Why be upset if it succeeds?

It seems to me that calling the film in question ‘depraved’ (as though art has anything to do with morality) or pointing out that it’s bad art (of course it’s bad art, most cinema is) – it seems to me that all this is just a means of justifying your offended sensibilities.

lol

And, really, you should just admit that you’re offended by a silly, frivolous little film because it has succeeded in manipulating you in exactly the way you were probably trying to resist.

@lucillelucillelucille

We are talking about entertainment here and values!

The part where you try to reconcile ‘values’ (what are values?) with entertainment is the part where you go wrong.

It’s clear from this statement that you want entertainment to be a reflection of your Own Personal Values (OPV), or that you want entertainment to be an easy affirmation for your vanilla identity, or that – and this is the worst one – or that you want entertainment to be the vehicle for your values, the thing that brings them to you, so you can sit and watch and passively receive them without having to think about what might be right or what might be wrong.

Even if there were recognizably universal values, which of course there aren’t, I would not want art to reflect those values at all times. Really, how incredibly boring that would be.

I think this movie has become a meme to which you and certain others happen not to be hep. That’s all.

Mikewlf337's avatar

@absalom Entertainment value depends on the viewer as you have said. I personally think that movies like this one are part of the problem of the horror genre and is an insult to the genre. Stupid actors/actresses who play charactors with no depth at all. A lame plot that makes really no sense at all.

Mikewlf337's avatar

Ok I actually went against what I said and I watched the movie. I was right on all counts. Boring, pointless, and disgusting. I can’t believe I went against my word and watched it? Whoever thought this up was screwed up and had no talent in making a movie to balance out his disgusting mind. It wasn’t brutal, It wasn’t shocking(because I knew what to expect), and just a sick reason to involve some sort of poop eating into a movie and that is something I do not consider entertaining. I gagged. I actually gagged. If you know me then you know I never gag. I was about to actually throw up. I movie has never done that to me. It is just sick and I will never recommend it to anyone. I chose to watch it because I was criticising it so much on this thread that I thought it was only fair to watch it and see what the fuss was all about. No, this is not a movie, it’s just filth.

lucillelucillelucille's avatar

@Mikewlf337—I am not suprised. I will not bother watching it at all. ;)

Mikewlf337's avatar

@lucillelucillelucille Good idea. It’s a talentless, pointless, and disgusting peice of garbage.

absalom's avatar

I enjoy watching this ideologically vacuous frottage.

Ladymia69's avatar

lucillelucillelucille quoted John Wayne!

CBrennan15's avatar

I can promise you one thing…the financiers did not know the full concept of this movie. They were undoubtedly mislead when first told about it.

Also, it’s a dutch film. Filmmakers/writers/producers tend to be more inclined to make crazy shit. It’s something in the culture, I’m not sure.

But at the end of the day, it’s just another dumb movie.

cockswain's avatar

I got into a conversation about it on facebook in November. Below is what I wrote the next day after seeing it. You guys make me feel wimpy, but I thought this was really, really nasty.

“It’s just the most foul thing I’ve seen. I thought some of those Saw movies were pretty bad, and same with some other weird foreign torture-porn flicks I’ve seen (like Salo), but I think this is probably the worst. Thing is, I’d heard what it was about, seen a few screen shots, and my brother had seen it and told me about it in pretty good detail. It seemed so gross it made me kind of nauseous, and never has a movie concept done that to me. The concept is so nasty it really stuck in my head for months after hearing about it. So vile.

Anyways, my wife was out of town last night and I saw it popped up as available instantly on Netflix. I figured my imagination had made the movie much worse than it was, since I’d built it up so much. So after much internal debate and some urging on my brother’s part, I decided it would probably be sort of cathartic to watch it. Like maybe it wouldn’t haunt me as badly if I actually watched it.

My imagination was pretty accurate, and there were a couple scenes that I hadn’t imagined. I ate an hour before the movie because I thought it could ruin my appetite (and it did), but I actually had trouble just drinking a beer while watching it. I’m getting kind of grossed out just drinking my coffee right now while writing about it. So it’s bad. Real bad. The part where the doctor is explaining what he’s going to do to them in graphic, surgical detail was really, really horrible. Then the surgery began, which was worse. When the first section “feeds” the second, it was just as bad as I’d imagined. I knew it was going to happen, had months to downplay it in my mind, but it was awful.

It has a few plot holes, so it actually isn’t solid movie in that regard, but is unfortunately likely to be memorable for other reasons. As soon as it was over, even though I was really tired, I had to watch a political documentary to take my mind off it before going to bed. But the very first thing I thought of when I woke up this morning was that movie.

Don’t watch it unless you get off on being thoroughly disgusted. I think I’m going to only watch romantic comedies for the next week.

Apparently there will be a sequel that is supposed to make the first one look like Bambi. I don’t ever want to know anything that movie, nor see any screen shots from it. I already know the centipede is reportedly 12 people long, and that is more than I want to know.”

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