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Which pressure is worse in getting people to do or not do something; money or force?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (26879points) June 21st, 2011

To get or persuade a person to do something specific or avoid it which type of pressure is worse for a person to use on another to accomplish that; to pressure them with money or gain, or the threat of force or violence?

Example #1 John Q wants Sam Smith to stop parking in front of his (John Q’s) house because there is no place for his daughter to park when she comes often to visit. John Q tells Sam Smith, “You better park somewhere else, because I wouldn’t want to see your windshield come up smashed.”, Or he says to Tom Thumb, “I know it is your boy hopping my fence to make a short cut. If he comes over one more time I would be careful if I were you walking home from the bus station, you never know what thugs might be around to mug a guy like you.”

Example #2 Trick Willy sees the BGF of his sister and says to her, “Going to go off to college in San Diego when you graduate, huh? I am almost done fixing this car up and I am going to start another project. I know how much you love this old GTO and you would look so fly in it at college. You help me with a video project, and maybe some stills, I will sell it to you for $1,200. With the paint and engine work alone it is worth $4,700. You don’t want to take that ”mom car” to campus, do you? Trick Willy says to Polly Purebread, “Your dad and mine use to play golf a long time ago, I was 12yr and you were like 10? Graduate school, that is great. I am doing well and just hate you ran out of scholarship money and can’t get a loan, if you would move in with me, be closer to the college, you can live rent free and I will spot you the cash for class, all I want is your company and maybe a little some’n some’n now and then.”

Which group would have the more ingenious misuses of pressure or type of pressure?

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7 Answers

FutureMemory's avatar

Apples and Oranges, isn’t it?

One is a threat of violence, the other is simply an offer to exchange services.

ninjacolin's avatar

Worse as in..? Which deserves a harsher punishment by law?

dabbler's avatar

Misuse, use, of persuasion that’s one topic. Negative reinforcement vs positive reinforcement is another.
Positive reinforcement usually leaves a lot more options down the road for cooperation and further persuasion. And is usually more pleasant for all parties concerned than negative reinforcement.

PhiNotPi's avatar

Worse as in more effective persuasion?

If so, force.
If there is force as in damaging something, that can be equated to money with the repair costs. Threatening damage is more powerful than an a bribe of the same size. You may want the money, but bribes are only powerful when you either need the money or the risk is small. When you are threatened with a potential loss, it is more powerful becuase, often, people cannot afford to lose that money.
If there is force as in the threat of death, then is it almost all-powerful. It is only ineffective when the person believes that doing whatever the threatener wants will destroy something worth his own life. This usually only happens when the action will result in the death of other people.
If the treat involves the death of someone else, the threatened person will almost always be persuaded, unless it will result in the death of even more people.

wundayatta's avatar

I don’t really understand this question, but in general, it is better to get people to do something because they want to, not because they are forced to or bribed. Bribing is probably preferable to force, but each has different problems.

When you force someone to do something, they don’t care about it at all. As soon as you stop forcing them, they’ll stop doing what you want. So you are stuck being their jailer if you want them to continue to do something.

Bribing doesn’t require constant monitoring, but it is a short term way of gaining cooperation. The instant you stop bribing them, they stop cooperating and they won’t start up until you bribe them again. It’s like mercenaries fighting for one side and then the other. They don’t care who they fight for. They just care about the pay check.

People who are intrinsically motivated will work when you are around to monitor them, and they will work whether you pay them or not. They love the work and believe in it. They are the cheapest and most effective workers. Or cooperators.

SpatzieLover's avatar

Positive reinforcement hands down. In your examples: the money.

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