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How to visualize four dimensions?

Asked by albert_e (529points) October 11th, 2010

Is there any technique for visualizing or understanding four dimensions?

- four spatial dimensions or even spacetime?

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whitenoise's avatar

Use an interactive model, for instance a three-dimensional image and add a slider to “move” through the fourth dimension.

In essence any movieclip is a four-dimensional model, be it linear and limited in its interactivity.

fundevogel's avatar

Hypercube

don’t ask me to explain it.

chocolatechip's avatar

@fundevogel

What is happening in that video is you are looking at 3-dimensional “cross sections” of a 4-d object. If we wanted to visualize a 3-d object in 2-d in the same manner for example, it would be like taking thin slices of an object, say a sphere, and viewing them one after the other. In the case of a sphere, it would appear as a point that grows into a circle that gets bigger and bigger, and then shrinks back down into a point.

I once saw a site that had a bunch of videos about visualizing 4 spatial dimensions, as well a other mathematical concepts. It was mindblowing. I’ll see if I can find it.

fundevogel's avatar

@chocolatechip I’m glad you explained that, someone had broken it down for me years ago but it left me. Probably because I can’t really get my head around 4-d objects. Your explanation reminds me of an exhibit at the Museum of Jurassic Technology.

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talljasperman's avatar

11 minute Video on 10 Dimensional space
I found this helps and is very entertaining

Zyx's avatar

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMMKceXeExY&feature=related

This is what an actual two dimensional representation of a penteract (5d) looks like.
I draw these things for fun whenever I have paper.
My head broke many years ago….

I once drew an octeract, though since my favourite number is nine I’d much more like to draw an enneract. Infinite dimensions seem like a much more enticing idea then what @talljasperman ‘s video suggests.

Scientists are idiots nowadays.

meiosis's avatar

If your fourth dimension is time, then, as @whitenoise said, viewing a film is analogous to moving through four dimensions, albeit using a two-dimensional medium to represent the usual three dimensions.

If your fourth dimension is something other than time, it gets trickier to visualise.

The_Idler's avatar

just add another property that goes in two directions, e.g. heat, black-white, time…

remember that the dimension permeates the object, so its not a 3D object with heat variations only on the surface, but all the way through the 3d structure.

Each point in it has 4 values/positions, one in each of 4 dimensions, x, y, z, heat.

The fact that the obvious part of the world we live in is 4D also makes a good model. Imagine something 3D, which changes over time. What you’ve got to realise is that it isn’t a changing 3D object, but an object that has a 4D shape, one part of which is being shown over time.

You see a 4D object in 3D+time, in the same way a scanner/photocopier sees a 2D object.
Imagine the 1D sensor, sliding across the page, building up a 2D image over time, this is what you do when you look at 3D+time videos of 4D objects.

Vortico's avatar

A few months ago, I stayed up all night reading about this and came across two helpful sites.

http://www.rdrop.com/~half/Creations/Puzzles/visualizing.4D/index.html
http://www.math.union.edu/~dpvc/math/4D/welcome.html

The latter is the most helpful, with many visualizations and explanations of the 4th dimension.

Rarebear's avatar

This is how I do it. A circle rotates around a point. A plane rotates around a line, and a space rotates around a plane.

Hobbes's avatar

If you think of the fourth dimension as time, I like to explain it like this. A two dimensional person seeing a balloon would see it as “cross sections” of itself. They would see a dot expand to a circle, then a sort of upside-down pear shape, then contract back to a circle, then to a dot, which would then disappear.

Our universe actually exists in four dimensions, but we can’t perceive all of it at once. We can only view it in three dimensional “cross-sections”, that is, individual moments. What we perceive as time is an illusion caused by our incomplete perception of reality.

Rarebear's avatar

I’d like to recommend a book called Flatland.

Vortico's avatar

@Rarebear Yes!! But not the movie. :)

Rarebear's avatar

@Vortico I never saw the movie—I heard it was awful.

@fundevogel I visualize hypercubes this way: If you take a square and move it in 3 dimensions 90 degrees to the plane of the square, with the length of the sides of the square, you get a cube. Then, if you take that cube and move it in the 4th dimension, 90 degrees from the third dimension, the same distance as the length of the sides, you have a hypercube.

cockswain's avatar

Here’s a book on the fourth dimension I read a decade ago. I really liked it. It references Flatland many times.

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