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WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

Care to help with a debate?

Asked by WillWorkForChocolate (22663 points ) May 4th, 2011

So there is a dispute over the quote that is posted all over the social sites: “I mourn the loss of thousands of precious lives, but I will not rejoice in the death of one, not even an enemy.”

Some are saying it was said by MLK or MLK Jr.

Others are saying it was actually penned by a 24 year old teacher named Jessica Dovey.

It is being said that Jessica Dovey posted her own quote from above, and right underneath it, she posted the following real quote from MLK Jr.: “Returning violence for violence multiplies violence, adding deeper darkness to a night already devoid of stars. Darkness cannot drive out darkness: only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate: only love can do that. ~ Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.”

Okay researchers: is it really a quote from MLK Jr.? Or did Jessica Dovey’s own words get mixed into the actual quote by eager posters on the social websites?

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KateTheGreat's avatar

No, this is not. I did a 4 hour search today to find out if it was really his and it is absolutely not.

Seaofclouds's avatar

From what I’ve read, the first part was just someone’s post (not sure who posted it first, but it seems like it was Jessica Dovey) and the actual MLK Jr. quote is the second part. Here’s a thread where Jessica Dovey explains that the first part was hers and she added the quote to go with it.

KateTheGreat's avatar

@Seaofclouds The last part had a bit of accuracy to it, but it was said to be paraphrased from the real quote.

crisw's avatar

This is on Snopes today- I believe them.

Seaofclouds's avatar

@KatetheGreat Actually, it looks like in one of his books, that is actually how it’s written. From what I could find, it’s in either Where Do We Go From Here or Strength to Love on page 64–65 (of whichever one it actually came from) worded just like above.

KateTheGreat's avatar

@Seaofclouds Really? Geezum. I should never do research again!

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

@Seaofclouds I don’t know… what I’m reading is that the real quote is on page 53 of Strength to love, but that the first line, “I will mourn the loss…....” was only added by Jessica Dovey.

Okay, I’ve just “searched” the Google books and it won’t let you read the whole thing, but you can preview it. Sadly, it cuts the preview off at page 42. I did a “search” for the phrase “returning hate with hate” and it brought up the quote. I did another search for “I will mourn the loss” and it brought up nothing.

Seaofclouds's avatar

@WillWorkForChocolate That’s exactly what I was saying about the first part in my first response. The first part was hers (Jessica Dovey or whoever said it first), the second part was the MLK Jr. quote. I’ve actually read that it may have been in both the books I mentioned, so if it’s on page 53 of Strength to Love then perhaps it’s on pages 64–65 of Where Do We Go From Here. My repsonse about where the quote was to @KatetheGreat was just talking about the second part of the question since she said that it seemed to have been paraphrased.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

@Seaofclouds Ah, ok gotcha. I thought you were saying the first line was included in his quotation in that book, LOL. I had to go look it up in several more places!

Seaofclouds's avatar

@WillWorkForChocolate No problem, looking back through the thread, I can easily see why it seemed that way. :) Now it’s all clear.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I was having a facebook conversation with my brother about this, on HIS post of said “quote”. He tried to make me look like a “stupid little sister” until I proved him wrong. He hates being wrong so badly, that he childishly deleted every comment on that post, LMFAO!

everephebe's avatar

Here are two more articles on the fake quote.

Ladymia69's avatar

I don’t care whether it was fake! The message was right on! :)

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

@ladymia69 Well that’s true to a point, but my whole beef with it was the fact that no one bothered to verify what they were posting. I could say just about anything and put a famous name behind it and everyone on facebook would spread it like wildfire.

I also got really pissed that my brother had the nerve to insinuate that I’m stupid, and then delete all the comments to prevent everyone else from seeing I proved him wrong. But then, he is kind of a douche most of the time, so I guess I should have expected him to do something like that.

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