Is repealing domestic abuse laws the best way to save money (details)?
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Reason #32,211 not to move to Kansas. WTF?
No, it is a horrible abrogation of public trust.
That is horrifying. I wonder how much money they are spending to prosecute the fellow who was caught with a couple of ounces of pot.
The Federal Government realized the rise in domestic violence cases and came out with rules and regulations, governing local and state governments receiving federal aid money.
This means that the local and state governments, receiving aid, will abide by these rules and regulations, put forth by the Feds.
To answer this question, no, the local and state governments will continue to arrest and prosecute domestic violence cases, or lose their federal aid.
Also, I think the city of Topeka has forgotten about the false arrest cases that will be filed against the city. These are the people arrested, but will never to go to trial. They were just set free. This also is false imprisonment violations.
It all comes down to money and the lack of it for Topeka, Kansas.
The cases will still be prosecuted. It is a back and forth because of budget cuts between the city and the county over who will prosecute the cases. Shawnee County District Attorney Chad Taylor announced today that he will prosecute the cases.
Bkcunningham, thanks for the update. You cannot just arrest people and let them go free without civil lawsuits arriving. Its pay me now or pay me later.
@bkcunningham thank you. So often we react to partial revelation exactly as media hopes we will.
One more example of the insanity that has gripped this country recently. I see Georgia is planing to use prisoners to replace firefighter to save money. One more jobs plan the right wing has hatched. Eliminate jobs and ship the money that used to be funding them off to the needy billionaires that fund the GOP. The American dream is becoming a nightmare for the 99%ers. When will we wake up?
Huh! So does this mean when the person who is being abused purchases a gun and shoots the abuser in the face because the police no longer will protect them; Does it mean they too won’t be prosecuted?
I know if I was assigned in that jury, I would let them go.
Did they ever considered the reason they don’t have revenue is because people are running from the state that is made up of a bunch of idiots? Just a thought.
I just want to know why it has to be classified as domestic violence? Shouldn’t all violence, all assult, rape, violence with a deadly weapon, attempted murder, cases be prosecuted? It’s kind of like the argument for why specific hate crimes might not be necessary, aren’t all violent crimes criminal?
@bkcunningham Sorry about the link. I’m not sure what went wrong. Here’s a story on it from ABC News. So let’s see. You think that in these hard economic times, if we lay off firefighters and substitute guys in jail for burglary to go into people’s homes, that’s a win win? Who wins? Not the firefishters who lose their jobs due to this “savings” program. Not the public, who now has criminals ranging around inside their burning homes to “protect” them. Oh, right. The fat cats who get to keep the money. They win. They always win when the Greedy Oligarch Pigs go to work on a problem, don’t they?
@ETpro, the Camden County Board of Commissioners is looking into, has not approved but is considering, using a program that has been around in some areas since the 1940s. It is a select group of inmates. It is part of the department of corrections’ Inmates to Firefighters program.
No firefighters will lose their jobs. The program would actually increase the number of firefighters in the county.
The program is being considered, along with several other options, to save taxpayers money on their insurance costs because of a new Insurance Services Office standards that could more than double the country residents insurance premiums if the county doesn’t open some substations.
“Why Camden is worried about insurance costs:
Under new Insurance Services Office standards, insurance premiums could more than double for Camden County residents if the county doesn’t improve its fire protection services. The county rating would change from Class 4 to Class 10 resulting in the following increases for homes of various values:
- $100,000 home: from $534 to $1,277
- $150,000 home: from $660 to $1,707
- $200,000 home: from $767 to $2,042
http://jacksonville.com/news/georgia/2011-10-09/story/camden-county-considering-inmate-firefighter-program-0#ixzz1afVcvUtU
Also, from the local newspaper: http://www.tribune-georgian.com/articles/2011/06/15/news/top_stories/1topstory6.15.txt
@bkcunningham No Firefighters will lose their jobs? How naive are you? They are considering it because they think it will save money. How, if they keep all the paid firefighters on the payroll? The offenders who they plan to include are drug offenders and people convicted of burglary. Certainly such people would NEVER think of slipping some prescription drugs, money or jewelry into their pockets while in a burning home. Give me a break? ANd instead of actually fighting fires, which they are trained to do, the Camden county paid firefighters will have to play warden while in the burning home, as there will be no prison guards along for the ride. Gotta save money, you know. No matter how much it costs.
And as to prisoners fighting fires, California has a model program where low-risk prisoners fight forest fires. But they are never supervised by firefighters. Specially trained prison guards supervise them in this work. Now that makes sense. This GOP boondoggle will only cost jobs and hurt public safety. And as far as I can see, since the Tea Party Republicans swept into power in 2010, they have done only one thing about jobs. Eliminate as many as possible. They are obsessed with union busting, cutting public jobs, destroying the Postal Service, and protecting tax credits for US firms that outsource
Maybe, just maybe, instead of laying off all government workers to cut taxes it would make sense to tax enough to provide the services we actually need, and thus not only avoid going from Class 4 to Class 10, but have more people in the community with a job. More people who don’t collect unemployment. More people with money in their pockets to go shop for groceries and clothes and school supplies and all the things that allow our local small businesses to prosper.
Maybe it’s time to admit we’ve got a demand-side problem and fire the GOP obsessed with fixing a supply-side problem which doesn’t exist.
This is one of many other proposals. It hasn’t been put to a vote. In order to comply with the unfunded mandate by the ISO the county must provide more firefighters otherwise the homeowners will pay more for their insurance. The issue is hiring and training more firefighters versus letting homeowners insurance premiums increase.
@bkcunningham I hear you on that. In our government by auction system today, it seems it’s those who can’t bundle up a quarter of a billion to buy off the politicians and get what they want that end up paying, whether it’s in higher taxes, higher costs, or lack of live-saving services. I am certainly not without sympathy for what they are facing.
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