I fully plan on assisting my own euthanasia, doctor or not, if and when, the time comes that my quality of life is unbearable. I think helping another to die is the most UN-“selfish” act a human can participate in.
“Selfish” is insisting someone suffer to spare yourself from your own neurotic fear of death.
My daughter and I were just talking about this the other day, and she said “Well..I couldn’t know or I could be an accessory to a suicide.” ( This was in part kidding around, but she knows how I feel.” I said…sure you can know, we can be together, say our goodbyes, and then, all you have to do is pretend that you found me dead the next morning.” lol
Should be allowed but monitored, not sure if by government or private companies. In many ways, that shit can go wrong quickly and be a convenient way to do away with certain populations, on a systemic level.
Agree with @Simone_De_Beauvoir to a degree, I think that if it’s legalized it should require a nurse’s prescence. My vet said even dogs sometimes panic before sliding into the great void, so it would be important to me that it’s quick, painless and calm.
@Coloma I always told my mom when she was done fighting, I’d get her whatever she needed. Luckily she’s in remission but the discussion needed to happen for her own peace of mind.
@Coloma Agreed. Do you know how painful it would be for me and my soul if I had to use a pillow on my own mother or something? That’s what point we’re at, people choosing to do what they have to do to end things.
You know it’s all about the money though, if they can charge you $10k for palliative care in a hospital for your last week of life, then why would they make a $100 shot available to the masses.
if you extrapolate from populations to use hospice in this country I think you’ll find that minorities are underrepresented. so I think the risk of euthanasia as eugenics is low.
there should be firm entry criteria for euthanasia such as being enrolled in hospice for 6 months without dropping out. it would be very important to differentiate being terminal from being suicidal because being suicidal is a temporary pathological state that can be treated by psychiatric intervention.
@drhat77 Sometimes though, from what I’ve seen personally, there are people who deteriorate so quickly that six months of hospice isn’t necessary.
Personally I think if a person could complete a psych eval or include euthanasia in your living will (my mom wrote it in hers) that it should be allowed pretty much any time full recovery is deemed no longer medically possible.
@knowitall I was just spit balling. But I don’t think we always know when recovery is possible. Cancer is one thing, but heart failure is the most common reason for admission in the us and eventually it’s terminal too. Predicting when someone will die is tough, and meanwhile there can be very serious debility.
I believe it should be available to us. If we don’t have the personal right to end our lives when we choose to, why should someone else? Anyhow, I think it is a slippery slope. I think there need to be some precautions, like a bit of a wait at least, and i“m not sure what else, but it shouldn’t be available at the drop of a hat. I can see situations where someone was not in their natural state of mind for a brief period of time, makes a phone call and gets an assisted suicide, and the family is 100% sure they would never have done that in their right mind. Who knows if they are always gonna be right about that but there would be situations where that was the case and for those people to lose a loved one or husband or wife or parent, I can see why they would think that is unjust and wrong. So I’m really not sure.
I just wanted to add something interesting I read the other day that brought into question the doctor’s feelings about it. It essentially stated that doctor’s are people with beliefs as well, and they are also sworn to the oath that makes them prevent death.
So you will have doctors that are for and against it.
a blessing for many. Being able to say, “That’s enough,” and being allowed to go to sleep forever, should be a choice allowed everywhere, especially if if you’re over 80 and not going to get any better.
@KNOWITALL Agreed, and, I might add, there is no such thing as a “full recovery” from ancient old age.
I don’t think chronic pain or terminal illness are the only factors…if I am unable to walk and have to live what’s left of my “life” in a wheelchair or bedridden in front of a TV…well….death is a much better alternative than being a living vegetable vegging in front of a TV all day. haha
@Katniss I’d do anything for my momz and thank you, I’m very happy, too. I
Even when she was first diagnosed, I joked with her so she was laughing just one hour after they told her she had cancer all over her spine. Laughing and crying both at the same time, but giving her a way out actually made her stubborness assert itself and she got more determined to fight. :)
@Coloma Time-released dilaudid will knock anything out I think, ask your doc.
@KNOWITALL Haha..well I don;t need to make any plans, yet.
I could just brew some nice Oleander tea too, or eat poison mushrooms, or just go sit out in the forest with a pork roast tied to my leg and wait for the Mountain lions. Many options. lol
morally sound, if that person has demonstrated they’re fully aware of the consequences of such a choice. Even then I’d only support such a choice for limited scenerios, such as terminal illness or extreme pain.