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[NSFW] Who in your opinion are worse, the suppliers or the consumers in sex trafficking?

Asked by Hypocrisy_Central (21536 points ) February 5th, 2014

[NSFW] Speaking with a friend he said he heard how during the Super Bowl at some Seattle hotel young women between 15yr – 17yr were being vended out for a price to those in town attending the game. Having a 15yr old provided for your boinking pleasure was doable for $15k, etc. A sting by the feds supposedly broke up the ring, and returned 15 minors home to their parents. So is worse in your opinion, those who would sell people for sex and their own personal profit, or those who would rent a person (so to speak), for a time for their own physical pleasure? In reality, under the law, who do you think the law will punish worse?

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SQUEEKY2's avatar

I would have to say the consumers, if there were not for them then there would be no need for suppliers, right?

josie's avatar

False alternative. They are inseparable cogs in the same morally corrupt machine.

cookieman's avatar

We’re talking degrees or horrible here. Both are illegal. Both are morally reprehensible. Both are horrible people.

Does one suck a little more than the other? Perhaps. Does it matter?

ragingloli's avatar

How dare you question the wisdom of the FREE MARKET?!

bolwerk's avatar

The suppliers. The suppliers are often cruel, vicious sociopaths. The consumers are usually just lonely or horny.

Pandora's avatar

The consumer is slightly more to blame. Without them, traffic in selling these children or women would not exist. No demand. No business. As for the women, most are just victims whether they wish to see it as so or not, unless they simply like sex and choose to make a living that way.

bolwerk's avatar

Behl. Prostitution stops existing the moment sex stops existing.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@cookieman Does one suck a little more than the other? Perhaps. Does it matter?
In the grand scheme of things id doesn’t; a fat maggot at the bottom of the trash heap is no better or worse than a skinny maggot, however, in the psyche of a lot of people, especially here in the US, it does. Even if unofficial society seems to hate the consumer more than the supplier, when the supplier, as it has been said, are many times more ruthless, and heartless. They, however, are not the one gratifying their lust with the young lady, they are just profiting off them. There is no Web site out there that will point out to you who was convicted of pimping and pandering no matter how many young lives they profited off of, that might be some indicator of how much it matters to society which is worse than the other.

Symbeline's avatar

The suppliers, by far. Especially pimps operating by forcing young women into the business. Biker gangs, drug lords…sounds like something from a movie, but girls being kidnapped and raised as whores is very real.

dougiedawg's avatar

Since the Super Bowl wasn’t held in Seattle, I’d question its accuracy.

dougiedawg's avatar

p.s. The FBI has a very informative site on drug trafficking, fyi.

rojo's avatar

Rock and a hard place?
Devil and the deep blue see?
Lesser of two evils?

AND @ragingloli has a very valid point.

dougiedawg's avatar

Sex traffickers are highly organized and professional criminals. Johns are just the poor, horny suckers looking for a cheap thrill for the most part. The girls are the real victims of course.

1TubeGuru's avatar

Without the demand for human sex trafficking there would no market for the sex traffickers to ply the exploitation of their victims in. the whole underground criminal enterprise is equally despicable whether you are the one who is profiting from it or the one who is purchasing the sex from the victim.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@dougiedawg Since the Super Bowl wasn’t held in Seattle, I’d question its accuracy.
My bad, I wasn’t following the conversation that close, it may be that I heard Seattle because they were one of the teams playing, but where they were playing, in one of those hotels (a higher end one I believe) some person, or group of people had this thing going for fans to get an ”after game delight” so to speak, with some hot illegal young women…..for a ultra-premium price of course.

jca's avatar

I was thinking what @dougiedawg said. If someone was in Seattle looking to see the Super Bowl, they’d be looking a long time.

whitenoise's avatar

Both… Equally…

This is totally different from normal sex workers, where I see no objections per se.

Human trafficing and slavery are some of the world’s most apprehensive criminal activities and those participating as well as those financing should all be equally condemned for the damage they inflict on their victims.

PS
WHy is this NSFW?

rojo's avatar

@whitenoise It discusses s@x!!

whitenoise's avatar

Oh dear… I thought it was discussing the aprehensability of trafficking people for the sex industry…

rojo's avatar

well, it has the word in it

filmfann's avatar

I think prostitution should be legal, but controlled. Government control fixes everything~

Symbeline's avatar

@filmfann There do exist escort services. That’s pretty much prostitution.

Darth_Algar's avatar

I’ll just say that so long as it’s done between adults under free will there’s nothing whatsoever wrong with renting a person for pleasure.

whitenoise's avatar

@Darth_Algar
In this question, @Hypocrisy_Central is not talking about adult sex workers… He’s talking about people trafficking for the sex industry. This is slavery in some of the worst possible ways…

Darth_Algar's avatar

@whitenoise

Yes, I’m aware of that, other people have mentioned sex workers however, and this is in social where, last I knew, conversation is allowed to be a bit more fluid. There can be no honest answer to the question I think. As with any business supply and demand are equally important. One cannot exist without the other.

whitenoise's avatar

Just thought you misread the question, is all.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Symbeline Biker gangs, drug lords…sounds like something from a movie, but girls being kidnapped and raised as whores is very real.
I agree, I heard guerilla pimping was on the rise on some communities. Sometimes it takes a more latent form as in the movie Traffic, where you get some gal strung out and keep her high while she is peddled out to others. You won’t find pimps plastered on any Web site, they can live right next to you, or depending on the plea deal (if they ever actually got caught) be teaching your teen daughter softball. If the suppliers are worse than the buyers, why is the punishment worse for the buyers?

There do exist escort services. That’s pretty much prostitution.
I would fancy that is the way most illegal women are pandered if not through massage parlors.

@dougiedawg Sex traffickers are highly organized and professional criminals. Johns are just the poor, horny suckers looking for a cheap thrill for the most part. The girls are the real victims of course.
In your opinion does that make the traffickers more odious? The law slaps the Johns harder, and once the gal is turned out, treats her almost as bad.

ragingloli's avatar

Criminals? I prefer the term “brave, non-sanctioned entrepreneurs”.

Symbeline's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central If the suppliers are worse than the buyers, why is the punishment worse for the buyers?

Organized crime like biker gangs, (who are a lot more organized than it appears) drug rings and shit like that, unfortunately I don’t think there’s much that can be done about them. They ARE powerful, and you’d need some all out war to stop them. But prostitutes and pimps DO get arrested, although I’m unsure of what punishment is for either a consumer or supplier, and which is more severe.

I, however, do not believe that justice works under the definition that it labels itself with, and whoever gets the worse punishment is irrelevant when it comes to the actual morality behind it.

For example, a guy who steals a computer from a store might get a year of jail time, while here in Québec, there was a doctor who murdered his two children and was out after two years. So fuck justice.

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@Symbeline But prostitutes and pimps DO get arrested, although I’m unsure of what punishment is for either a consumer or supplier, and which is more severe.
Yes, pimps do get busted, but hardly ever from what I know. I was once party to a conversation where one person said he was busted for selling and pimping and pandering, and others in earshot were clowning him as how he could ever get stuck with a pimping charge. The punishment, for all the damage it can do, is hardly anything next to a hapless horny John that ends up getting busted with an underage hooker; that poor sap will get more wrath than the pimp who is profiting off her naughty bits.

dougiedawg's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central -The degree of guilt is greater imo for the traffickers who are essentially slavers. They are also very good at evading the law while johns are not.

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