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Dutchess_III's avatar

Is the idea of a sugar high a myth?

Asked by Dutchess_III (27219 points ) April 20th, 2014

I, personally, think it’s a myth. If it makes kids hyper it would make adults hyper too. I think some people want to blame something, anything, but themselves for their kids behaving like spoiled brats.
Here’s something from Wiki to back it up.

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filmfann's avatar

It’s real. Only someone without kids would ask this.

Dan_Lyons's avatar

Read the book “Sugar Blues” if you want some perspective on just how deadly sugar is for some of humanity.
Sugar is highly reactive in sensitive people (those sensitive to sugar).

It does make people hyper, but not everyone. If not used properly or immediately by the human body it turns to fat and is stored as fat.

It (overuse) is a major cause of diabetes and obesity and hyperactivity.

canidmajor's avatar

Why would you think it doesn’t make adults hyper? The adults have a greater mass, have built up a certain resistance, and have much more training to cope with the stimulus. At this point in my life I eat very little sugar, so I notice a marked difference when I do indulge. I also experience a dramatic crash after the fact.
Not everyone metabolizes everything the same way, I find your characterization: “I think some people want to blame something, anything, but themselves for their kids behaving like spoiled brats.” to be a harsh generalization.
Can you link to the actual double blind studies? I would be interested.

gondwanalon's avatar

I don’t know if there is such a thing as a glucose high but I’m sure that there is a glucose low. When I eat a sugary snack on an empty stomach (like a granola bar) my pancreas overcompensates by putting too much insulin into my blood stream and my blood glucose dives into the low 40’s (mg/dL). I get very light headed for a few minutes until my blood glucose returns to the normal level.

JLeslie's avatar

I don’t believe sugar makes kids hyper. Food will make kids more alert in general. Kids get depleted and hungry and food renews their energy.

I lived on lots of coca cola and cookies and I was not a hyper child. I know just using me as an example proves nothing, but being around friends and other children I don’t see a sugar and hyper connection.

I do think overheating can cause a high feeling, kind of a drugged out feeling. I never experienced it until I gained weight and was consistently overeating. I think people who like to feel stuffed get sort of a high from it, but it isn’t hyper.

The sugar myth and hyperactivity persists because high sugar days happen at birthday parties, and Halloween, and special guests that bring treats. Kids get wound up no matter what during those events.

cazzie's avatar

Everyone is different. Saying ‘I didn’t so it doesn’t exist’ is far from proving it. I have two kids and they both seem to have problems with impulse control and large amounts of sugar exacerbates the problem but that doesn’t prove anything, BUT and there are many actual scientific studies that show sugar and mood changes are very real and related but it may not be the sugar itself that is causing the problem.

Some of the latest work is being done on the addiction and pleasure centres of the brain. In some people, the brain isn’t just consuming sugar, but it is releasing serotonin and endorphins to a problematic level. So, you see, we are more connected to what we put in our mouths than just digestion. (This is what I was also trying to get at on the lapband surgery thread as well.)

We don’t just eat with our stomachs. We eat with our brains, too.

JLeslie's avatar

I think I said that just because it didn’t happen to me proves nothing. There are many studies showing sugar does not cause hyperactivity, but many scientist believe there are exceptions to the rule, and some kids are affected. Like most of science the results are true most of the time, not all. Here is a pubmed link. This debate reminds me of the vaccine autism argument.

I do think the addiction connection with sugar is much stronger with some kids. Also, if they are giving their kids soda there is more at work than sugar.

Dutchess_III's avatar

@filmfann I had 3 kids. I never noticed any difference in their behavior after eating something with sugar. Hell, I had a whole daycare! Occasionally we’d have birthday parties where we’d decorate our own cup cakes. I didn’t notice any difference in any of the kids afterward.

I watch my grandson after school 2 to 3 days a week. He’s ADHD and has some behavioral problems. I’d gotten in the habit of giving him magic cinnamon sugar toast. Well, one day my son dropped him off and asked me not to give it to him any more. He said “He could NOT settle down last night. Would NOT go to sleep.”
I had to point out that I hadn’t had him the day before.

Seems to me the people who complain about it have overall poorly behaved kids in general.

There seems to be overwhelming evidencethat sugar, in fact, does NOT change the kid’s behavior. This was interesting.

cazzie's avatar

Yeah, @JLeslie it’s exactly like the vaccination/austim debate…. *eyeroll (I’m a wee bit sensitive to that comparison….

JLeslie's avatar

@cazzie Mom vs. science is all I mean. I think moms matter a lot.

Dan_Lyons's avatar

@cazzie I believe they have actually come out and admitted that they (those in authority) did lie about the thimerosal and mercury in those vaccinations which do indeed cause autism.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Lied in what way @Dan_Lyons?

Vaccines do not cause autism!

Dan_Lyons's avatar

@Dutchess_III Sure they do. The preservative in the vaccines (Thimerosal and mercury) do indeed cause autism or greatly aid in its development. Some of the doctors involved with perpetrating this lie came out last year or the year before that and admitted that they lied. I thought this was a common fact by now. Hard to believe not eveyone is privy to this knowledge.

JLeslie's avatar

Oh Lord, let’s not get off on a mercury autism tangent. Most vaccines no longer have mercury. I only mentioned it as an example of mom observation vs. science. The fact is the doctor who started the whole vaccine scare is completely discredited at this point and lost his license.

cazzie's avatar

@Dan_Lyons you don’t know me, so I’m going to let that slide. I KNOW the autism/vaccine thing is utter bullshit. I KNOW the so-called doctor who authored that paper was a fraud and has been de-registered. Please do NOT repeat these lies and myths. And all that bullshit is about a decade old now, not just last year, so I’m surprised YOU aren’t privy to this common knowledge. I really hate it when people talk about such important issues with absolutely NO clue at all.

Dan_Lyons's avatar

Hard to believe you guys are still parroting the big lie. That’s okay. It’s your right to believe this nonsense.

Dutchess_III's avatar

It’s a CONSPIRACY! A CONSPIRACY I tell you!

Dan_Lyons's avatar

And this time the conspiracy is to keep the heads of fools buried deep in the mud and believing that their doctors tell no lies. .

cazzie's avatar

@Dan_Lyons You are a decade behind. Read some more.
http://www.nationalreview.com/article/373579/foolish-anti-vax-cause-rich-lowry

‘Dr. Andrew Wakefield publicized this supposed link in a famous article in the British medical journal The Lancet. It has since been thoroughly debunked. The Lancet retracted Wakefield’s paper, and the British Medical Journal reported that he “falsified data.” He had his medical license revoked. All of which should have been enough to give the anti-vaxxers pause.’

http://edition.cnn.com/2011/HEALTH/01/05/autism.vaccines/

and here it is in comic form if you need it: http://tallguywrites.livejournal.com/148012.html

Dan_Lyons's avatar

Proof That Thimerosal Induces AutismLike Neurotoxicity

CDC caught hiding data showing mercury in vaccines linked to autism

Perhaps you don’t want to take Verstraeten’s word for it because he went to work for Big Pharma

Talk to the parents of the children who came down with autism days after receiving a vaccination. Some of you are so smug with your allegations that thimerosal cannot be a contributing factor in autism cases. You wouldn’t be so smug if it were your child who became a brain dead retard because of a vaccination.

JLeslie's avatar

@Dan_Lyons Even if we agree they covered stuff up about the mercury, very few vaccines have mercury now and parents need to stop assuming all vaccines have mercury and get the real information. Do I think the government will downplay side effects of drugs and vaccines? Yes. Do I think moms count. Yes.

Dan_Lyons's avatar

How do you know that very few vaccines have mercury now? They have been lying to us for years regarding this criminal activity, what makes you think they are suddenly telling the truth, @JLeslie?

cazzie's avatar

I have children with autism. I count, too. And none of your sources are remotely factual or scientific. And the last one you quote actually disproves the point you are trying to make.

Dan_Lyons's avatar

That’s nice @cazzie And do you think it is so very scientific if
the doctors and scientists telling us what is what are lying?

cazzie's avatar

@Dan_Lyons they’re all lying, sure. fine. And some people will believe playboy bunnies over actual medical trials.

JLeslie's avatar

@Dan_Lyons I do trust the reporting of what is in the vaccines. If you don’t I’m sure I can’t convince you. The CDC, WHO, FDA, big pharma, doctors and even the media at large have not gone around advertising and promoting vaccines with low mercury. I think of there was a big cover up they would be protesting too much as the saying goes to try to convince the public. None of your sources say anything about current vaccines having less mercury, or asking for the vaccines that have no mercury, which leads me to believe the authors are not doing any current research on the topic and are just scaring people from past information. It’s really easy to get a hold of a vaccine and have it tested by a third party and blow those claims wide open. Why isn’t anyone doing that? That doesn’t take an expensive double blind study or a lot of time. Not doing it is negligent in my opinion if they are going to continue to scare the public out of vaccinating. I can’t imagine not vaccinating my kid against polio, pertussis, measles, tetanus, to name a few really bad diseases, the first three extremely contagious.

Dan_Lyons's avatar

Well there you have it. you trust those in authority while I find they have been lying to us for thousands of years.
Enjoy yourself in their unusual brand of slavery.

Dutchess_III's avatar

Paranoid much?

Dan_Lyons's avatar

Hahahaha…classic retort when someone with no class loses a debate.

Dutchess_III's avatar

I wasn’t in the debate!

cazzie's avatar

Classic ‘declaring yourself a winner of a debate’ retort… LOL

Dutchess_III's avatar

^^^ That makes NO sense @Dan_Lyons.

cazzie's avatar

Oooooh, rut roh… butt hurt

JLeslie's avatar

What? I said they can pay a third party to analyze the vaccine.

My mom worked for the FDA for years collecting the adverse reaction forms for vaccinations and I am the one who agreed I don’t completely trust the government regarding drugs and vaccines and you say I trust those in authority? Put two and two together.

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