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Is there any point in speculating on the collapse of the GOP?

Asked by stanleybmanly (24153points) August 3rd, 2016 from iPhone

For instance, is it really unavoidable?

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johnpowell's avatar

Actually, if you look back a lot of people on the right thought McCain and Romney weren’t far enough on the right and blamed their loss on that.

Trump isn’t really saying crazy shit. The racism and misogyny have always been there. Trump just made it so you didn’t need to dog-whistle it.

My hunch is there are some that will use Trump as a model in the future but they will be able to seem less reckless but still share 99% of his views.

stanleybmanly's avatar

So Trump’s main problem is that he speaks what he views as the truth, asked for or not? He says what he thinks, literally. He can’t help himself?

elbanditoroso's avatar

They haven’t died yet, and miracles can happen.

Although I would celebrate their demise, it is too early to be dancing the happy dance. Too much time between now and November. This is a good time to watch the show, and maybe to sit with crossed fingers, but it is too early to call them dead.

Everything it it’s time.

stanleybmanly's avatar

It’s unraveling rather quickly. Trump operatives are now openly campaigning in Wisconsin to defeat Paul Ryan. Meanwhile, virtually the entire herd of elephants is stampeeding away from their nominee.

Call_Me_Jay's avatar

I don’t speculate. It doesn’t effect the outcome. But I am enjoying the results.

Q:
How many times have Republicans have won popular vote in presidential elections in the past quarter century?

A:
Once.

Since 1992, the score is Democrats 5, Republicans 1.

zenvelo's avatar

The unraveling will take time, as it isn’t the Presidency as much as it is Congress where things are skewed red.

That is why the big worry for Republicans isn’t the White House, it is traditional Republicans staying home and not voting on the down ballot offices.

If they hold the House and Senate, then Trump is just a nightmare. If they lose Congress, they will be worried about being a national version of California, where all state offices are Democratic as are both house of the legislature.

What may be a better indicator is the results of yesterday’s Kansas primary, where the Brownback wing of the Kansas Republicans got thrashed, including a vocal member of the Congressional “Freedom” Caucus. John Boehner was laughing at the obnoxious Freedom Caucus firebrand that lost yesterday to a more moderate Republican.

kritiper's avatar

It is unavoidable. It began with the influx of the Tea Baggers. Trump is just hastening the final result.
I now am beginning to doubt if Trump really wants to be president and is just playing a game with the electorate. He knows he can’t win.

LostInParadise's avatar

The Republicans have to become more inclusive. The U.S. is, or will soon become, majority minority. Obama and Bill Clinton both managed to get elected with a minority of the white vote, and it looks like Hillary is going to do the same.

The party will also have to become more aligned with the general public on other issues, like gun control and climate change. If they don’t change, they will be replaced by some other party, but I would not rule out the possibility of change. Consider how much the party transformed itself from being the party of Lincoln.

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