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Where can drug dogs smell?

Asked by Rememberme (661points) May 21st, 2009

I was always curious if drug dogs could smells drugs (or could bomb dogs smell bombs) if they are hidden in an attic space or high up in a cabinet.
To me it seems like the smell would be too far away from the dog but maybe I am under estimating a dogs ability.

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Darwin's avatar

You are definitely underestimating a dog’s ability. Their sense of smell is something like 3000 times that of humans.

LKidKyle1985's avatar

nah you are under estimating. its the trail that the drugs leave. Kind of hard to explain, but its not like a dog can smell a racoon from 5 miles away, but the racoon leaves a trail of its scent that gets followed, and then the dog follows that. Same with drugs, if there is even the slightest hint of some drug the dog will signal that it smells it.

SeventhSense's avatar

@Darwin
just a little bit high

All dogs have exceptional sense of smell. The beagle is an excellent drug sniffer but consider the Bloodhound.

Researchers have estimated that a bloodhound’s nose consists of approximately 230 million olfactory cells, or “scent receptors” — 40 times the number in humans.

So potent is the drive to track, bloodhounds have been known to stick to a trail for more than 130 miles.
~PBS.org

These dogs sniff things that are miles away because of the most minute of chemical trail that is left in the air and on surfaces.

Grisaille's avatar

Where can they smell?

Wherever they can inhale, silly!

Darwin's avatar

@SeventhSenseAuburn University and Alabama A&M say:

“A dog’s sense of
smell is said to be a thousand
times more sensitive than that
of humans. In fact, a dog has
more than 220 million olfactory
receptors in its nose, while
humans have only 5 million.”

But then this site says:

“The dog’s nose can smell up to one million times that of a human’s.”

The dog’s sense of smell depends not only on the number of receptors but also the type of receptors, the shape and structure of the nose, and the development of the part of the brain dedicated to scent.

And then there is this :

“The percentage of the dog’s brain that is devoted to analyzing smells is actually 40 times larger than that of a human! It’s been estimated that dogs can identify smells somewhere between 1,000 to 10,000 times better than nasally challenged humans can.”

So I don’t feel my number is too high.

SeventhSense's avatar

1000x-1 millionx ? i guess they need more research :)

Darwin's avatar

It also depends greatly on the breed. Dachshunds have only 125 million receptors, but German Shepherds have 300 million. It also depends on the inclination and intelligence of the dog, as well as the human ability to make a comparison.

justwannaknow's avatar

A drug dog can find your drugs no matter where you hide them, so as the saying goes, “Just say No!”.

btko's avatar

A dog handler I spoke to said the dog could tell a women had drugs about 150 metres away amongst a crowd of people – so I don’t think an attic would do it. Depends on the dog though, there are some dogs better at it than others.

Judi's avatar

If their sense of smell is so keen, why font they seem to mind farts?

crisw's avatar

@Judi
Because dogs like nasty-smelling things..dead fish, rotting mice…a keen sense of smell doesn’t necessarily make them odor gourmets :>)

madcapper's avatar

We got pulled over at an immigrant search stop going from California to Arizona because the dog happened to smell the scent of weed on my friends clothes from the night before that were tucked in a back=pack in the back seat. don’t underestimate this shit! haha

PapaLeo's avatar

Hide the drugs somewhere high. Everyone knows that dogs can’t look up.

SeventhSense's avatar

@Darwin
Well that’s where I have to seriously disagree with you and I think that my source is strong. At PBS.org the reference I referred to says that Bloodhounds have 230 million scent receptors or olfactory cells and that would be less than the 300 million for German Shepherds that you claim or cite. There is not a better and more capable tracking dog and sense of smell on the planet than a bloodhound so I think that your statistic may be an error.

Kayak8's avatar

Where do I even start?

All dogs have better abilities to use their noses to scent things out than do people. The longer the dog’s nose (e.g., German Shepherd) the greater the surface area inside the nose turbinates available to capture chemicals associated with scent and refer the information to the highly developed olfactory center in the dog’s brain. This is where the breed differences come into play (one reason why “smashed nose” breeds are not typically used for this kind of work). Bloodhounds have the additional advantage of long floppy ears and flues (floppy upper lips) to help corral a scent right in front of their noses.

When we train search dogs, we are not training them to use their noses—they already know how to do that. Dogs trained for the purposes of searching to help people find thngs are actually being trained to locate certain scents and to tell their handlers that they found it.

Dogs who work in these fields are usually taught to find specific scents (i.e., you would use one dog trained to find bombs, a different dog to find people, etc.) This is not because the dog couldn’t find the different search item, but because the 1) the handler needs to respond differently (bomb vs. drugs) and 2) the dog has limited abilities to communicate what has been found (sitting, downing, barking). So the dogs are trained to specialize in a specific discipline. It is for these reasons that the FEMA search dogs are trained to find living people only (so expensive resources are deployed quickly to save a life). When the live find only dogs are finished, THEN the human remains dogs and cross/trained dogs are called in.

There are also several disciplines for HOW the dog goes about their work. Some dogs are trained to work with their heads down (think bloodhound) and follow a trail or track. Others are trained to work with their heads in a normal position (up) and do what is called air-scenting.

Tracking/trailing dogs are used to find things that move (i.e., people). Drugs typically don’t move without the assistance of people so the drugs don’t leave a track or trail. Bloodhounds are bred to be experts at tracking/trailing and not specifically air-scenting. (That is how handlers make the best use of the floppy ears and flues).

Air-scenting dogs catch the smells of the chemicals floating on air currents (human cells, drug chemicals, etc.). My dog is trained to find people and human remains using air-scenting. If I hang a piece of human bone in a tree, he can find it. His ability to do so, however, can be impacted by the wind conditions at the ground level and those up in the tree.

If one were to hide drugs in a typical home, there are different air current conditions than being out of doors. I can’t think of anywhere indoors that one could hide drugs (heightwise) where a dog couldn’t find it. Even if he couldn’t get his nose on the exact spot, he would demonstrate behaviors that would indicate that the item was out of his reach.

My dog will go up on his back legs and work with his head waaay up to let me know that the item is out of his reach over his head. He is trained to get himself to the point where the scent pool is the strongest (if he can’t get to the item itself) and to indicate (give his trained response). The handler then works to help the dog narrow things down.

Some people try to fool the dogs by placing drugs in containers with other substances they think will mask the drug’s smell (e.g., coffee). Drug dog handlers know this and can get their dogs to find drugs in the presence of other potentially confusing smells by incorporating this into the training process.

drClaw's avatar

@SeventhSense Your comments never dissapoint, I think you are my favorite flutherite! Yay PBS!

justwannaknow's avatar

Police dogs are now being trained to locate drugs hidden in “dog proof” areas to include coffee, Pepper etc. And do not even try the trick the people down the road tried. They hid the drugs in a room with a bitch in heat thinking the drug dog would pay more attention to her. They did not know the dog they brought was a female also and not the least bit interested in the other female.

El_Cadejo's avatar

While this movie as a whole sucks ass, the parts that cover drug dogs is pretty interesting.

Drug Dogs

SeventhSense's avatar

@drClaw
Thanks for your support. :)

Blondesjon's avatar

Anywhere they like but they tend to go for the crotch first.

jerrytown's avatar

watch “berry cooper, never get busted” he was a indictions officer in texas and put alot of people in jail for running pot. he realized one day that the people that get caught with pot are usually laid back and generally nice people. he quit the force and put out a series of videos called NEVER GET BUSTED. pretty interesting, check them out, they cover the dog thing as well

El_Cadejo's avatar

@jerrytown lol click on my links :P

jerrytown's avatar

@uberbatman- that would be the guy i’m talking about. Some of the things he points out is good to know, especially the dogs.

bubbernuts's avatar

this has been a helpful and interesting post by everyone. I noticed no one detailed about what exactly these dogs are “getting a whiff” of… I was, personally, waiting to see a post such as this, but never saw one. So… I’m no expert, but I believe everything (people, animals, organic beings in general) walking along its set path leaves behind a microscopic dust from their largest organ- the skin. Dead skin cells shed off one’s body constantly. You are basically ALWAYS shedding tiny, dead skin cells. You’ve heard 90% of dust (or something like that) in your house is dead skin cells… If you haven’t, you should get out more. These dead cells from your body fall to the ground leaving behind a trail which can be easily picked up (and even differentiated from one person to another) by a trained dog, considering their sniffer’s are 10,000 times better than a human’s. With that in mind, some drugs likely leave less of a trail as they are being transported since they are no longer a living (organic) thing constantly shedding useless matter. Obviously, weed leaves behind a very heavy trail wherever it is and is easily detectable. I’m just guessing that’s how man’s best friend actually processes this detective work. Like I said, I“M NO EXPERT! so don’t quote me on this but it seems to be the case. Please correct any miss-information i’ve typed. Hope this contributes

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