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Though God forbade Adam and Eve to eat the fruit from the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, now it will nourish us as part of our intended daily diet. Do you agree?

Asked by RealEyesRealizeRealLies (29505 points ) August 5th, 2009

How could we survive without this fruit of good and evil? Eat up! But save some for me…

Are you getting enough moral fiber?

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hungryhungryhortence's avatar

Because of your love
The taste of infatuation is flat
Flattery is thin
And I am hungry all the time

loser's avatar

I like fruit.

Zendo's avatar

Where is this alleged tree to which you refer?

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@loser indeed, my friend, indeed

Jack79's avatar

Which fruit? It is certainly not the same fruit from the same tree that was once forbidden that is now part of our daily diet. Though fruit in general is good. But I prefer pizza.

eponymoushipster's avatar

hey, look, a fruit loop.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

that other q about dipping sauce might be helpful too

ragingloli's avatar

i do not like to dine on this fruit.
i prefer the master chef’s (not chief) menu of individual evaluation.

LuckyGuy's avatar

I get all I need from Fiber Essentials Cereal” – 14 grams per serving.

dynamicduo's avatar

Fruits aren’t evil. And neither was the one from that story.

pikipupiba's avatar

fruit is eeeeeeeeeeevvvvvvvviiiiiiiiiiiiilllllllllllllllll!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (but tasty)

filmfann's avatar

Fruits make you healthier, not smarter. I am guessing it was a vegetable, and BIG VEG got some of their publicity people to spin it onto the fruit conglomerate.

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

I run all my fruits through my Power Pro Juicer, so I still get the nutrients, the fiber, and the great flavor, but I can pour it into a glass, and there is no chewing involved.

Call ahead, I’ll save you some and serve it over ice.

CMaz's avatar

“Are you getting enough moral fiber?”

Every day I am on here. ;-)

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@Zendo asked:
“Where is this alleged tree to which you refer?

Oh what joy to begin this Thursday morning with such an opportunity (and I thought taking out the trash was going to be my highlight).

The Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil is deeply rooted in every word that proceeds from our minds. And it’s not a matter of medium as words do not depend upon writing (sign language, smoke rings). Basically, any form of physical symbolic representation of intentions from a mind.

Personally, I believe it refers to the very moment when humanity became consciously aware through the use of modern language form. Simon Baron-Cohen suggests this glottogony to specifically include “intentional persuasion” and “intentional deception” appearing in homo sapiens approximately 40,000 years ago.

Since this is a biblical myth, it must be addressed from the biblical perspective. The Serpent encouraged Eve that once this fruit was tasted, our eyes would be opened to see things as God sees them.

What’s interesting is the bible teaching:
“In the beginning was the word. And the word was God and the word was with God. And the word became flesh”.

And in Genesis:
“And God “said”… Let there be…”

Hypothetically (and in line with the biblical teaching) Eve was the first to taste of this fruit. Thus women embraced modern syntactical structures before men. Who better to feed this fruit to children both male and female?

So, when we tasted the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil, our eyes were open to concepts of modernity. The Garden of Eden vanished before our very eyes, and the Angel who prevents us from returning is our very own cognitive development that modern language usage has foisted upon us.

Animals are still in the Garden of Eden, having no wants or desires beyond that which is provided for them by Mother Nature. But humans have left the Garden, never to return.

What other Fruit bearing Trees await us in our future evolution? Is there a Tree of Omnipotence waiting to be picked from?

mattbrowne's avatar

Yes, people who learn do “eat” fruit from the tree of knowledge all the time. But this means they lose their innocence and their ignorance i.e. their “paradise” and learn about the evil side of the world. But it’s an opportunity for growth as well. A modern version of this parable can be found in the Time Machine by H.G. Wells. Until the traveler arrives from the past, the Eloi are a comfortable group, living a banal life of ease on the surface of the earth. When they get a taste of knowledge they meet the evil Morlocks. No more paradise.

nebule's avatar

right now I’m sick of discussing the problem of evil…(because of a certain essay) and I’m starving so thinking about fruit is not appealing either…but I love the question and will definitely come back to it… you are brilliant!! @RealEyesRealizeRealLies

erniefernandez's avatar

I’m pretty sure the Bush administration set up a perimeter around the Tree of Knowledge as a matter of national security.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Hey that’s right Matt, the ignorance/paradise comparison. Perfectly in line with “ignorance is bliss”, and it can splinter off into so many confirmations from there. Dare someone dare me into another lengthy diatribe… Fear not for school begins soon and my son needs the attention I so often heave upon this forum.

Nice pick with the Eloi and the Morlocks. I see a new bed time story in the near future with my son.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@lynneblundell

Oh do return soon. We’ll share the madness of mango together. Unless you prefer altruistic apples and peaches of premonition. I’ve had my fill from the grapes of wrath.

stratman37's avatar

Talk about the blind leading the blind…

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@stratman37

We could if you insist. But a “talk about the blind leading the blind” might be best served by starting your own thread. Give it a go… that’s not on the table here.

lazydaisy's avatar

@hungryhungryhortence
that is brilliant

hey real eyes…..will you hand me that knife so I can cut up this apple for us to share?

nebule's avatar

mango and chicken are an amazing combination!

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

A mango, a chicken, a date with a dame,
A snake and a tree, from whence knowledge came.
All will be tempted, let no one refrain,
A wishbone is mangled, and nothing’s the same.

nebule's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies I’m loving the poetry…but…what is your picture exactly?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@lynneblundell

I sit atop my perch and make a living producing artwork of shadows walking beneath me. The series is called Real Eyes Realize Real Lies and depicts our shadows as distortions of the Truth. The only way to overcome that distortion is to stand directly under the light of Truth where no shadow may be cast. The further we stray, the more distorted our shadow becomes, eventually twisting us up to the point of not recognizing our True self.

“But the light is moving!” they say. No, the light is stable and unwavering. It is this world that is moving. So our choice is simple. Are we a part of Truth, or are we a part of this world that leads us away from it?

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies you are so modest about your photog

eponymoushipster's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies it sounds like youre a politician. you know, you’re the center of everything, and full of bs…

ragingloli's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies
that reminds me of a task in school
we had to create a logo for our project group. I designed the logo, and when our group had to present it, we made the meaning for it up on the fly.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@hungryhungryhortence

Oh dear… humble? I should certainly hope not. This economy suggests me to shamelessly market my wares at every opportunity. How else will I feed my babies? Yet I certainly don’t want a small quip from an artist statement to be considered as conceit either. I wonder why this has drawn your attention to judge me so?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@eponymoushipster

I’m at a loss. How does branding my artwork serve to label me as politician and full of bs? Why is a thoughtful answer to lynneblundell reason to accuse me of anything?

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

@ragingloli

I’m glad you had that experience in school and that my words could bring back a memory. Unfortunately this is not a school project for me. There are nearly 600 images in this library and a 400 page story to go along with it. Making it up on the fly has never been part of my methodology or work flow. Certainly not for continuing projects with five years under their belt.

How have my comments to someone else’s inquiry given reason for others to put my livelihood on the chopping block?

eponymoushipster's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies it wasn’t an answer. it was pedantic.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Well I thank you kindly for the gracious critique. Usually I must pay for such things. Your input is always considered and gratefully accepted.

nebule's avatar

ok…aside from all the words flying around… @Real can I view this art somewhere online?
and I thought it was a pretty wicked answer!

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

I think the term “sit atop my perch” offended some people. My perch is any city fire escape that I dare to climb, usually to the 7th floor or higher.

The intended presentation remains incomplete so nothing is posted to a public gallery on a web site. But here are some samples.

The Contingent

The Contravene

The Fanatic

The Beleaguered

The Deficient

The Desperate

nebule's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies I think you are a very talented man!..but sssshhh we don’t want anyone else to know x

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

You never know. I’ve had my share of luck. But thanks.

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies: glad to see you share your wares. If I could profit by displaying my collection of discarded, broken and outgrown golems…

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Why are they discarded, broken and outgrown?

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies: I’m happy to say most people outgrow or break free of the encasement, leave their creations eventually to go on less encumbered. Others though, a few end up half baked and trapped within their own makings, skins painfully fused.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

Yes that’s a good thing, to live, learn, and move on. Leaving painful creations behind is to be encouraged. Forgiving one’s self is often the most difficult task of all. Terribly unfortunate to carry unneeded baggage around. How burdensome.

And then there are artists, who simply express themselves openly to the world, regardless of how they may be judged.

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

Ahh, bless those artists who are so brave, even at their own sacrifice.

RealEyesRealizeRealLies's avatar

I’ve never met a cowardly artist.

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