Is it possible for a Material Woman to be "real"?

Because it’s all about them. Yes, they can be real. They can be a real pain in the ass.

A high maintenence person isn’t what you described lol….

People don’t like high maintenence prospects because they are extremely picky. Why change yourself drastically for someone…..

Couldn’t say. They want a woman who looks nice, but not too nice. A woman who takes care of herself, but who doesn’t take too long to do it.

Side note: Today is grooming day for me haha =) I don’t mind being high maintenance.

This turns out to be a complicated, multi-layered question. A woman who cares about her appearance can be quite real and genuine, but a woman who cares more about her appearance than having a good time is a turn off. Nothing is less fun than having a girlfriend who won’t go for a ride in your convertible for fear of mussing her hair, or won’t go for a hike for fear of getting dirty. For me bleached hair, excessive tanning, fake nails, and lots of make up tend to point to a narcissistic interest in appearance, which ultimately means she’s always going to put her own appearance above having fun with you. But a woman could easily be the exception to that rule and could quite easily prove it. Were I a single man I would never be above giving a woman that chance. Finally, none of this describes a “high maintenance” woman, as I mean it. High maintenance means she wants you to spend ridiculous amounts of money on buying her clothes, jewelry, etc. and probably also wants you to call her every two hours to tell her how you can’t live without her (none of which should imply that I’m against some romance, just that there are limits to a persons wealth, desire to buy more crap, and time).

Women who support their high-maintenance tendencies by working and making their own money are fine in my book. If they work hard to earn a dollar, it’s none of my business what they spend it on.
It’s the one’s who don’t lift a finger and marry for money, then spend it all on hair, nails, makeup, clothes, jewelry, etc.
That is unappealing to many people and comes off as insincere, pretentious and narcissistic.

That’s not high maintenance…

You’re just asking about girls and make up.

My gf takes an hour to get ready to go anywhere. But I appreciate her good looks and the time she takes to put on her face for my friends. Personally – I like her for her – I have to. I know what she looks like when we wake up the next morning after all ;).

I don’t see make up as a turn off – but excessive make up is. My sister dolls herself up. I’m not into that – which I guess is normal – she is my sister…

Different strokes for different folks. Some guys just like the girl clean and down to earth, without the pretense of ‘beautiful’ in terms of what society perceives it. I prefer a in between. I’ve been trying to get my ex to look good for her new bf – but she just doesn’t bother. But the end point is – she has a bf :). So – different strokes for different folks.

Just to be clear, I’m talking about Women that spend quite a bit of money “taking care” of themselves. Designer bags. Constant tanning. Having hair and nails done. Staying up to date with fashions. Not just “make up”

I do agree that if the Lady is paying for everything herself, it shouldn’t be a problem ;)
But I’ve met a lot of people that think VERY differently.
@facade – Couldn’t have said it better ;P

@Snarp said it perfectly.

@meagan If that’s the case: I wouldn’t pay for it. You want me to pay for all your dinners and dates, and on top of it, your maintenance? Go find a 65 yr old to date…

(I don’t mean you @meagan, as we have discussed before, I know you’re very low maintenance :))

@Idknown Low maintenance dater, yes ;P! (Because I don’t!)

In my personal opinion they exemplify everything that’s wrong with society.

Cover a dog turd in 24 carat gold, it will still smell like shit.

@syzygy2600 Because?

@syzygy2600 It might still smell like ‘smeg’ but in the end, I’d probably give it a second chance look :). Maybe even pick it up for a bit before realizing – hey! it’s just smeg!

Because its about flash over substance. It’s the human equivalent of a 3-D movie with the latest, greatest special effects, but the plot sucks, the writing is unoriginal, and there’s something sticky on the floor.

@syzygy2600 That is ridiculous. If someone is making their own money, they can spend it however they please. Especially if it isn’t hurting anyone.
Between everyone being angry about how fat everyone is getting, you’d be surprised that someone is getting shat on because they like to take care of themselves.

I’m not shitting on people who take care of themselves. It’s more the idea that the most important thing about a person is their physical appearance, which is shallow and everything that’s wrong with the world. So if you spend all your time worried about spray on tans and hair extensions, be prepared for someone to think you’re shallow. It would be like me walking around punching people in the face all day and then loudly wondering why I’m being called an asshole.

@syzygy2600 Alright then. But that wasn’t really the topic we were discussing, ‘the lady being all about herself. More or less judging people that are into material things. Why they can’t be good people, too. yadda yadda yadda

I think it is only a turn off when it is over done and or becomes part of that persons personality where they freak if their hair or makeup is not perfect. I know one particularly beautiful woman who dresses well and looks great and does so without all the fanfare and drama some beautiful woman do which then earns them the high maintenance ribbon.

“Why is a High Maintenance Woman a turn-off?”

They are only a turn off if you can’t afford them.

As a women who has earned her own living all her adult life, I personally have more important things to spend my hard earned cash on. Like investments, retirement funding, making sure I have extra put aside for emergencies, leaking geysers and car maintenance in order to get a good nights sleep. Which by the way is nature’s best beauty treatment?

I certainly wouldn’t judge a female who does that, but I think as time goes on you weigh up which is more important, a label handbag, or a bit more money in your saving account. Nice false nails or one step further paying off your mortgage. I think overall I no longer buy into fashion I have become very aware of money spinners and the other people getting rich on from them. (Which wasn’t I).

I do have nice nails, I have lovely hair and I am well presented but I do it myself. I have also learned in life one thing you cannot buy is peace of mind. But you can save up for it.

“Why is a High Maintenance Woman a turn-off?” They are only a turn off if you can’t afford them.

Is there a place to rent them for just part time work?

@davidbetterman On the corner downtown?

@davidbetterman How much are you willing to pay? There are some hair and skin products I’ve been wanting to buy.

LOL @Facade & @Snarp… We may be starting fluher’s 1st escort service!

@Just_Justine I want you…......lol.

High maintenance does not mean expensive. It means requires an extraordinary amount of time and attention, and never seems happy.

@wundayatta Why be satisfied with just good enough when you can have/be better?

@Blackberry ;)

@Facade because it never ends. There is always one step more. And it’s not the money but the psychic energy that runs out quickly.

I think some men like the high maintenance woman to show off as the trophy in public but in private they want to be the center of attention.

Fact from fiction, truth from diction. ” I’m talking about Women that spend quite a bit of money “taking care” of themselves. Designer bags. Constant tanning. Having hair and nails done. Staying up to date with fashions. Not just ‘make up’ ” High maintenance women come in several flavors but everyone just tosses them all in the same mix. The HM woman you speak of the kind who takes care of her own gear many men avoid because she can’t or won’t do anything that will make her look less than if she were going to a photo shoot. She won’t go to the batting cages, maybe not bowling, and horseback riding is a long shot. –Even those who are HM on the dude’s dime can be that way as well.—

High Maintenance women who are up kept by the guy many men like to avoid simply because it is easier to avoid them than to admit they can’t afford them. It is like loving to be seen in a Lamborghini but hating it when it is time for a tune up.

You have HM women who are “real people” they are not self absorbed narcissist, they will get muffed up or dirty if the action warrants they just seek to clean up before they go into public view.

The main 2 reasons to keep me away from a HM woman would be if she were the type who could not stand to look less than if she was doing a red carpet walk and second to that –I will admit—she’d cost more than I could comfortably spend and not resent it. If I had it like Bill Gates she might be the highest maintained lass in the western US states.