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Alternative to left/right liberal/conservative?

Asked by tom_g (16638points) August 2nd, 2011

Has anyone ever used the Political Compass? While far from perfect, I do apprectiate the mult-axis model. It’s a good step away from the insufficient left/right garbage. I am curious, however, where people on fluther will end up.

Here is the test.

Once you have taken the test, here is the analysis. And here for the US 2008 election.

Here are my results . I fall exactly where I expected to.

EDIT: SORRY! Just noticed that this was already asked in 2009. Ignore if you want. Should I request a delete, or has it been enough time?

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tom_g's avatar

I flagged it as a duplicate.

wundayatta's avatar

What the fuck is this place doing to me?

Economic Left/Right: -3.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -7.28

I used to be further left and not as libertarian, I don’t think.

Honestly, I don’t know why I fall so far into the Libertarian area, except that I am strongly anti-authoritarian. Being anti-authoritarian is different from being Libertarian, I think.

As to liberalism—I think that the more you understand economics, the more you realize that your favorite program to help people won’t work as designed.

tedd's avatar

Economic Left Right: -5.75
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.33

Doesn’t really surprise me.

jrpowell's avatar

Don’t worry, that was years ago and there are lots of new people that never saw it.

incendiary_dan's avatar

I’ve taken versions of this that put me in the Libertarian camp. I’m an anarchist, which they put in the right area. These things are a joke.

@wundayatta The term libertarian basically meant anti-authoritarian until the Libertarian party usurped it. For example, look at the “Libertarian-socialist” collectives during the Spanish Civil War. Libertarian socialism has often been another term for collectivist anarchism.

ragingloli's avatar

Economic Left/Right: -8.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.46
surprise surprise
libertarian communist sounds great, eh?

tom_g's avatar

@incendiary_dan – re: libertarian. Right. I remember first hearing about the Libertarian movement in the US and trying to figure out how they could have pulled this off. I had always thought of libertarianism as anarchism (Bakunin, Chomsky, etc).

cazzie's avatar

Well, how about that. I’m right down there with Gandhi, Nelson Mandela and The Dalai Lama. That made my day.

philosopher's avatar

I am an Independent. I exam the documentation and try to weed out the rhetoric. I use common sense.
I do admit that I put the needs of my family first but I also have compassion for others.

AstroChuck's avatar

Economic Left/Right: -6.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -8.36
Looks as though I’m more left than Gandhi, comrades.

Proletarians of all countries, unite!

TexasDude's avatar

Economic Left/Right: 4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.38

Behold, Fluther, for I am your boogie man. Look upon my economically right-leaning libertarianism and despair!

tom_g's avatar

@Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard – Whew! I thought we might be a bland, homogeneous group of left libertarians. Good to see (even though I a gritting my teeth in disgust) ;)

augustlan's avatar

My result is just what I expected. What a relief! ;)

TexasDude's avatar

@tom_g hey, at least you’re nice about it.

flutherother's avatar

Economic Left/Right: -6.88
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian -2.87

I am right next to Gandhi and opposite Margaret Thatcher and Hitler.

Dr_Lawrence's avatar

Economic Left/Right: -8.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -5.79

I sure feel in good company in this quadrant of the graph!

Dr_Lawrence's avatar

@augustlan You and I seem to be hanging out with Ghandi. I feel I have a long way to go to be worth of his company.

AstroChuck's avatar

@Dr_Lawrence – Hopefully we all have a long way to go before hanging out with Gandhi.

TexasDude's avatar

The only figure remotely close to me on the graph is the composer Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, who was described as a “tolerant individualist” who “kept [his] distance from mass movements.”

Sounds legit to me.

King_Pariah's avatar

Economic Left/Right: 0.13
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -0.79

Almost there…

TexasDude's avatar

@King_Pariah almost there as in you are almost the perfect centrist?

King_Pariah's avatar

@Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard precisely. But then again, no one’s perfect.

cazzie's avatar

Is it worth pointing out that Gandhi was shot by an extremist of his own religion who was against Gandhi´s multicultural and tolerance teachings?

Dr_Lawrence's avatar

There has always been a greater risk to those who don’t follow the high Authoritarian / strongly (economically) conservative – right wing (nut) point of view. Abraham Lincoln, Martin Luther King, and Robert Kennedy were not extremists and they met a violent end in their own country. It is true of many more whose names the public will never know, such as the students slaughtered at Kent State by the National Guard for exercising their Constitutional Rights. If they had been students supporting the Government of the day, they would be famous.

Consider some of the scariest people in history and where they are positioned on these dimensions. Look how many of today’s prominent politicians are in that quadrant.

If Heaven is supposedly filled with such people (as the religious right proclaims, then I’ll go my own way, thank you very much.

TexasDude's avatar

@cazzie, I think it’s also worth mentioning that Gandhi disowned his own son (who wound up dying a lonely alcoholic) and he also claimed the Nazis weren’t so bad a time or two. But like @King_Pariah said, nobody is perfect.

King_Pariah's avatar

Well if we’re going to point out the imperfections of Gandhi, he was also a wife beater.

incendiary_dan's avatar

@King_Pariah I thought he was emotionally abusive of his wife, not physically.

King_Pariah's avatar

@incendiary_dan he admitted to doing so in his autobiography.

incendiary_dan's avatar

@King_Pariah Wow, thanks for that info.

martianspringtime's avatar

Economic Left/Right: -4.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -6.10

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