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Interested in Jesus?

Asked by busse (66points) July 17th, 2008

If there was a website where your opinion was welcomed, and dogma, religion and “turn or burn” preaching was removed, would you be interested in exploring or discussing the humble life and lessons of Jesus?

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osullivanbr's avatar

Do we not occasionally do that very thing on here. No need for a site in my eyes.

Unless the site had beneath it all, an agenda of it’s own.
Just my two cents

wildflower's avatar

Not particularly

osullivanbr's avatar

Someone didn’t take their pills today I think.
@bugmenot, have one of the green ones, you’ll be ok.

flameboi's avatar

We already said no and flagged that question, call Rev. Lovejoy, maybe he will have this discussion with you :s

Les's avatar

I think it is ironic that someone passionate about Jesus would declare said passion with the phrase ”HELL yea”.

PupnTaco's avatar

Why golly yes! What would that URL be?

One point for persistence but minus 2000 for being annoying.

NIce try – again.

flameboi's avatar

hehehe nice one!

busse's avatar

I’m brand new here, sitting beside the founder and development team in a conference in San Francisco and I posted this question to see how it would go over. Great first impression kids.

Who doesn’t enjoy being called annoying when posing a serious question looking to start a conversation? The uninformed criticism, dissing and disrespect is why I generally avoid online foums and this feels like more of the same at first glance. Charming.

wildflower's avatar

In fairness busse, this question (in both this and its original form) does have an air of advertising about it.
Also, even if you’re not used to online forums, have you experienced many places where you can raise a question such as this without getting opinionated responses??

PupnTaco's avatar

@ busse: When your first impression in a new community is an advertisement for your own site, it’s bound to get tossed like any other spam.

Maybe a better way would be to join the community first, talk about something besides Jesus for a while, then build your way towards trying to drive people to your own site.

PupnTaco's avatar

In answer to your question BTW, no I would not be interested thank you very much.

arnbev959's avatar

@busse: If the collective isn’t your cup of tea, so be it. An internet forum is what its members make it, and a lot of the member of fluther (a majority, possibly (probably)) simply wouldn’t be interested in such a site, and so they expressed so. If you asked the same question on a site that is already Christian-oriented you’d get a different result (and your advertising would be far more effective.)

To answer the question: I like Jesus; he went around sitting on mountainsides telling people to love each other. But no, I wouldn’t want to spend time on a site with a bunch of nutty christians inevitably telling me I’m going to hell, except for entertainment once in a while.

Knotmyday's avatar

Which Jesus? If you mean my mechanic down at the Toyota dealership, then yes, I would love to discuss him in dogma-free forum. he is a great mechanic

He likes to be called “Chuy,” though. Please be sure to put that in your website, so nobody gets confused.

marinelife's avatar

You get what you ask for. Your question clearly has a point of view. You are disingenuous about that point of view; you don’t even own it in the asking.

I think that rather than condemning the answerers, you need to look to the question.

I am also always blown away that people who come in new with no time spent here getting a feel for the place and its people start ragging on the collective, because it does not conform to their ideas of what this or any internet forum should be.

Would you do that in a coffee shop or bookstore or social club? I don’t think so.

jrpowell's avatar

Ron Paul 2008.

La_chica_gomela's avatar

in short, no.

osullivanbr's avatar

Or similarly to what Marina said, wouldn’t a more positive way to approach the negative reaction you got, be to ask why? Or actually try to acquire some knowledge about the reaction you got. But instead you set off on a very stereotypical response for religious people, and condemned the collective because we didn’t agree with you.

It’d bring tears to Jesus’ eyes so it would.

marinelife's avatar

@osb I have tears from laughing so hard at your answer. Great point.

@busse What would Jesus do? Stone us? I think not.

osullivanbr's avatar

@Marina tears in you’re eyes? His reaction would bring tears to Jesus’ eyes.


My God, look everyone Marina is Jesus.
I knew it, didn’t want to mention is before in case I was wrong, but now I have proof.
The Bible was right, our saviour has returned.

I’m going straight to hell

marinelife's avatar

(Still laughing.) QED Oh, dear, is this blasphemy?

wildflower's avatar

just to be on the safe side, lets go with Jebus

Knotmyday's avatar

Oh my god, Wild, “lolcat.” Can you die from laughing? call 911

wildflower's avatar

You mean: “Oh me ceiling cat” :)
....and I hope not, but don’t forget to breath!

busse's avatar

Some pretty thoughtful responses here, thanks for chiming in. To be clear though, I’m not trying to drive anyone anywhere and it was merely the first question I thought of. The point made about spending some time here first is valid, but kind of does reveal aspects about this “collective” as it was referenced (which I don’t think I was ragging on). Is the point of this space to engage and participate or sit back and watch in fear of being attacked?

For the record, I suspect I’m going to hell too, but it’s interesting to me that someone (not me) has created a place like where people can discuss such a controversial topic and I was wondering if the same spirit was behind this space I just discovered.

shilolo's avatar

I’m not particularly interested in Jesus, but I am interested in the Church of Google.

scamp's avatar

If you read the fluther guidelines, you will see this:
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Browsing the site is the easiest way to get a sense of our culture and of what kinds of questions and answers are appropriate.

Well-written, genuine questions provoke the best and most thoughtful answers.

Our trusty moderators will remove anything that is:

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Of course, we also remove the obvious stuff:

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So to say that we gave a bad first impression sounds a little like sour grapes to me. When I walk into a person’s home, I don’t tell them how they should run it. My mommy taught me that was bad manners when I was just a little girl.

osullivanbr's avatar

Um eh. If you have no interest in driving us anywhere, and this idea just popped into you head, then eh, what development team and found are you sitting next to at dat dar conference of yours?

scamp's avatar

@osullivanbr Exactly, and did you notice the link got snuck in anyway??

osullivanbr's avatar

Nicely done to so it was. Sneaky devil (oh no can’t say that). Sneaky rascal.

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marinelife's avatar

@busse I applaud you for coming back into dialogue with us. Welcome to the collective.

This was what I referred to as ragging on the collective (emphasis is mine):

“The uninformed criticism, dissing and disrespect is why I generally avoid online foums (sic) and this feels like more of the same at first glance. Charming.

There have been many interesting and lively and multi-viewed discussions of religion here including this thread and this one , and there have been many others just in the last few weeks.

Much of the reaction that you got was the way that you posed your question. It always helps to put a little more of yourself in there.

PupnTaco's avatar

My Japanese God-Jesus robot suffered many indignities over a long stretch of days – nay, weeks – and finally those Evereadys gave up the ghost. I’m thankful for everything that pile of plastic and metal did for me and my brethren.

lifeflame's avatar

Actually, I was kind of intrigued by the question, “Interested in Jesus”?

I clicked in because I thought there actually might be some discussion about how relevant Jesus is in this day and age.
Obviously the Christians are interested in him, and I expect gradations in that.
And as for the non-Christians, the agnostics, the atheists around fluther, obviously Jesus is something floating around the Western consciousness as a historical and religious figure.

But to answer the question, no, I’m not interested in Jesus enough to go to a specialised website, though I am curious about how people experience or relate to Jesus (or Buddha, or Ganesh). Which you might get here on fluther if you ask the right question.

delirium's avatar

Only if you would spend your time on a website where we rejected the idea of jesus as the zombie son of a virgin and a god and we talked instead about humanistic secularism. If you spend your time there…. maybe then we can talk.

Knotmyday's avatar

Jesus died???? Who’s going to fix my Camry?

delirium's avatar

Don’t worry, knot. Zombie. He came back, and as long as all his fingers stay attached, he can still hold a wrench.

arnbev959's avatar

I think knot was referring to a non-zombie jesus.

marinelife's avatar

If I were you, Kmd, I’d put my automotive faith in this fellow.

Knotmyday's avatar

The father-midget would have better access to the undercarriage of my car.

blasphemy! flagellation

TheHaight's avatar

Nah, I already do that at my youth group, why the Internet? Seems boring. Like this thread.

busse's avatar

You guys are fairly awesome.

flameboi's avatar

You just made my day hahahaha

scamp's avatar

@busse we are uberbatman!

delirium's avatar

We do invoke awe. Yes.

breedmitch's avatar

Yeah, although I lurve saying uberbatman, I’m going to agree that in this case, the word awesome could be correct.

Maverick's avatar

ah, I’d have to go with “No”. There’s a million time wasting discussions going on about Jesus everyday (see also, this thread), I don’t think the world needs yet another.

bikepilgrim's avatar

I’ve already read that book too many times.

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