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Isn't Twilight just a watered down version of Joss Whedon's "Buffy the Vampire Slayer" and "Angel"?

Asked by NerdyKeith (5439points) February 24th, 2016

They are basically the same story lines its just that Stephenie Meyer’s version is a watered down version.

I’m not dissing Buffy and Angel by the way. Just making the observation that Meyer’s pretty much took the very basic concept of it, and took it in all the wrong directions.

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Seek's avatar

THAT IS BLASPHEMY AND YOU WILL APOLOGISE.

Seek's avatar

composes self ::ahem::

No.

Buffy is the story of a young woman who learns she is destined to be, basically, a superhero. The romance with Angel, and later, Spike, was a sub-plot, not the goal. Buffy took no crap, and if she did it was presented as negative, and we were all happy when she got out.

Twilight is the story of a cardboard cut-out of a female being stalked and abused by a 100 year old teenager, presented as the height of romance. It is a disgrace to the name of young adult fiction.

ucme's avatar

No, it’s just all kinds of shite.

canidmajor's avatar

Well, let’s see, they all have vampires. That is basically the only common theme. I’m thinking that that’s all you were aware of while making this comparison.

zenvelo's avatar

Okay, I’ll bite. What is your argument?

Aren’t they all derivative? Didn’t this all start with Anne Rice and the Vampire Lestat?

I wish someone would put a stake through this undying trend.

NerdyKeith's avatar

@zenvelo

No this did not start with Anne Rice’s work. If we want to determine who really started off the vampire genre that would have to be Bram Stolker.

Anyway my argument for the similarities between Buffy and Twilight are. In Twilight girl falls in love with a vampire (just like Buffy and Angel). Vampire tries to be a good vampire by not feeding on human flesh. Vampire has to leave human girl for some time; because he is a danger to her.

ibstubro's avatar

I’ve never seen Twilight. I didn’t get the impression that there was much humor? Am I wrong?

I loved Buffy, and she was hilarious.

cazzie's avatar

Blasphemy of the highest order in the Whedonverse. Next you’ll be saying you never watched Firefly. @Seek perhaps our young nerdy minion needs some guidance.

NerdyKeith's avatar

@cazzie Firefly? Is that some sort of Pixar movie?

Haha I joke! I have seen Firefly and also Serenity. Loved it!

NerdyKeith's avatar

@ibsturbo Twilight was aweful. I actually loved Buffy and Angel though.

Darth_Algar's avatar

@NerdyKeith “No this did not start with Anne Rice’s work. If we want to determine who really started off the vampire genre that would have to be Bram Stolker.

Hardly. There were plenty of examples of vampire fiction that pre-date Stoker (who published Dracula in 1897) by decades, including Sheridan Le Fanu’s Carmilla (1872)*, and John William Polidori’s The Vampyre (1819).

*Also an fairly early example of lesbian fiction, sorta.

NerdyKeith's avatar

@Darth_Algar
Well you are correct there actually

tinyfaery's avatar

SHUT YOUR MOUTH! Buffy is art. There are college courses on Buffy. Books of philosophy written about Buffy .Writing courses and film schools use Buffy as an example on how to do things beautifully, artfully and remain accessible.

NerdyKeith's avatar

Peeps I’m not saying anything bad about Buffy ;). What I am saying is that it seems that Stephanie Meyer tried to do her own version of Buffy, but not exactly understanding the full mythology of the series.

dappled_leaves's avatar

Good lord. No, there are so many differences, I don’t know where to start.

tinyfaery's avatar

They cannot be equated in any way. Now apologize and promise to never do it again. :)

I belong to one fandom and one fandom only—BTVS. There is a podcast called Dusted that is going through the entire Buffyverse. Starting season 5 soon. Give it a listen.

Darth_Algar's avatar

Fandom: serious business.

tinyfaery's avatar

Just ask all the larpers and cosplayers and the nerds at all the comic-con events. Serious business.

ibstubro's avatar

Buffy was a long time ago!

dappled_leaves's avatar

Buffy is forever, @ibstubro.

tinyfaery's avatar

^Preach! Buffy lives!

ibstubro's avatar

I loved Buffy, I just didn’t see it as that big of a deal at the time, and I didn’t realize it had grown in stature over time.

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