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Obama oppinions?

Asked by glitterrrrfish (222points) August 24th, 2008 from iPhone

what do you think about barak obama? Are you planning on voting for him? Why or why not? Which if his future plans as president appeal to you?

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girlofscience's avatar

Yes. Our country can’t handle another Republican administration. John McCain is certainly a more honorable man that the squishy-faced retard that’s been in office for the last eight years, but the US needs an administration that is as opposite of Bush as possible to undo the ridiculous amount of damage he has done. Also, international relations will be much better when other countries actually respect our president. All of Europe seems to love Obama.

flyawayxxballoon's avatar

If I were old enough to vote, I would definitely vote for Obama. As for why, well here’s one reason…
But also, as girlofscience said, Bush’s damage needs to be undone. Also, all of the issues that he plans to address are, in my opinion, are the right issues to address and they are supposed to be addressed in the right way.

tWrex's avatar

I’m going to be as reasonable as possible with my answer. I think he’s selling sailboat fuel. He’s a cad. A shyster. Another colorfully old word that describes someone who’s less than honorable. I am not planning on voting for him, BUT I am also not enthused about the Republican nominee – I wanted Ron Paul. I suppose my biggest reason for not supporting him is his extremist (and it is extreme) view on abortion. The idea that you should not provide medical care to a baby after a botched abortion is sick. Basically, the abortion takes place; it’s screwed up and the child is alive; then they let it die. Right in front of them. Crying to death. It’s barbaric. Here’s a link to a site that links his voting records as well as his stances on the issue. I have other reasons, but that one is the one that’s popping out at me right now.

girlofscience's avatar

@tWrex: GREAT. Good for Barack. He has the balls to be on the extreme end of a position. That’s more than I could say for most politicians. One of the reasons I preferred him to Clinton is that he had whatever position he had without trying to please the moderates. Hillary was always like, “Well, I [support the liberal position], BUT I also can see the other side, and I disagree with [some specific part of the issue].”

PeterM's avatar

I get flamed every time I write about this, but Obama lost my vote when he went back on his word over the FISA bill. He was a professor of Constitutional law, so there’s no excuse for that. I would have put up with a lot from him and still supported him, but I just can’t stomach this.

And just for the record (since it almost always comes up), I never supported Hillary (and still don’t). Nor will I vote for McCain or any Republican. I’ve been a life-long Democrat, but now I’ll probably vote for Cynthia McKinney.

rob's avatar

Not that it’s the main thing to consider but I don’t think Obama has enough experience. He has almost nothing before politics and has been a senator for 4 years—not enough to really establish who you are in the political world. It’s not a huge deal and I don’t agree with much of his political decisions he has made but it’s something to think about for the most powerful position in the world.

cheebdragon's avatar

I will not be voting for Obama, I don’t agree with his views. The only change he will bring is going to come out of our pockets in the end.

boffin's avatar

Thank you @cheebdragon

marinelife's avatar

I am voting for Barack Obama, because I would vote for anyone who is opposed to the policies put in place by the Bush Administration in the last eight years.

Beyond that, Barack Obama will actively work to end US involvement in Iraq and bring our troops home. He will take proactive steps to help the environment and to find fuel alternatives. He will ease the fiscal burden on the middle class.

@cheebdragon and boffin Eight years ago when Bush took office, the country had a balanced budget plus a large surplus. Now, our national debt is so huge that it will take generations to pay it down. Unemployment is up significantly across the board. Inflation is greater than it has been since 1981. And you two are worried about what Obama will do to your bottom line?

I am terrified at what four more years of the policies that have driven us to the precipice (if not over) of a major depression will do.

susanc's avatar

I am wondering with real confusion why people think an Obama presidency would cost us money.

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

Because Sean Hannity says so.

cheebdragon's avatar

Who said McCain would be another 4 years of bush?? I don’t remember McCain saying that…..I guess it must have been Obama or Hillary (god knows, they have no reason to lie about that, right?~)
So because bush supports McCain, that makes McCain another bush? If that were true, then Obama must be exactly like the controversial jeremiah wright, since he supports Obama…....

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

If you asked that question a year or 2 ago, you might have been right. I dont know if you have noticed, but McCain has become more and more lock step with Bush, ever since he mysteriously jumped ahead of all other Republicans in the primaries.

For someone that fought so hard for our “freedom,” as McCain has, he is very willing to all of a sudden, throw “freedom” right out the window.
If the terrorists hate us because we are free, doesnt that mean they are winning?

As far as Wright goes, I believe his “Anti-American” remarks were blown up by the media to make them look Anti-American, when they were nothing but the truth. Rev. Wright spoke of the lies of the American government. According to Rev. Wright, the American government lied about the connection of Al Qaeda to Saddam Hussein; the connection of 9/11 to Operation Iraqi Freedom; and, weapons of mass destruction.

Just as with FISA, instead of standing strong and speaking the truth, Obama played politics as usual, which seems like it’ll never change.

“A true patriot always questions its government.”

dalepetrie's avatar

Obama had my vote when he delivered the 2004 keynote speech at the DNC, when he said that people don’t expect the government to solve all their problems, but they sense that with just a slight change in priorities, we can do much better.

I have been left of the Democratic party my whole life on many issues. I believe trickle down economics is the biggest failure we’ve ever seen, and that it has allowed the haves to run away with the nations fortunes while leaving the have nots further and further behind. I’ve seen companies get away with making billions and paying no taxes, while raping our land and polluting our air for their gain. I’ve seen first hand companies pay $250 million to a CEO who doesn’t do anything to improve the standing of the company, and then decide that in order to shave $100 million off the expense, rather than cut the exorbitant pay of the do-nothing CEO, they will cut about 2,000 jobs from their payrolls, sending 2,000 people and their families into economic turmoil.

I believe supply side economics is backwards, because you can give all the tax incentives you want to wealthy captains of industry in hopes they will produce more, but what incentive do they have to produce more if no one can afford to buy what they produce. The natural order of things is that supply follows demand, not the other way around. If you put money in the pockets of people who will spend it, producers will produce more because they can in turn sell more and make more money. That increases the demand for workers, which in turn inflates salaries, puts more money in the pockets of more people, who then in turn have more money and demand more products and services…the cycle is almost limitless.

I believe in equality for all people, and though I’m sympathetic to the viewpoint of someone who does not want his definition of for example marriage to have to change because of what it means in the eyes of their God, it is also inhumane to deny survivorship, parenting and property rights to someone because of whom they choose to sleep with. I believe in putting people first, and I believe that even though I’m left of the Democratic party, the Democrats are far closer to doing so than the Republicans, and I believe that Obama is unique among Democrats in his desire to create a bottom up, pay as you go economy that does not borrow and spend.

I believe taxation should be fair and that we have allowed a very small but very vocal minority who control all the wealth and therefore all the power, to scare the unwashed masses into believing that Dems want to raise their taxes, when indeed, Dems want to see taxes lowered on just about everyone, but want to see those who do exceptionally well in our economy and the businesses they run pay their fair share so the rest of the people can also pay only their fair share and still get the services from government they rely on.

I believe our nation has sufficient wealth that it should ensure that every citizen has enough to eat, has access to a good education and quality healthcare that is based in prevention, and income stability when they retire at a reasonable age. I believe we need to invest heavily in infrastructure and social programs which help people lift themselves to a better future (one that offers a hand up, but not a hand out).

Though Obama and I differ on some fine points, I read his 2 memoirs, I read his policy position papers, I followed his speeches, and the conclusion I came to was that about 98% of what he truly and clearly believes are exactly the things I truly and clearly have believed my whole life and have longed for someone seeking the job to actually have the guts to stand up and say. I truly believe that he is committed to making this country work better for all its citizens, and I truly believe he has the bold vision, coupled with the intelligence and the ability to work among varying viewpoints, to accomplish the type of renewal we haven’t seen in our country since the days of FDR.

What I believe Obama will do is to restore our dignity around the globe. He will make us safer by listening to and not just talking at people around the world who don’t always agree with us, but he will remain firm in the face of adversity. I believe he will rejuvenate our ailing economy and will restore the shrinking middle class, shrink the ranks of the impoverished, and improve the health and well being of all Americans. I believe he will create a more just United States that is safer, more prosperous and more respected than at any point in the history of our nation. He has my vote, he has my donations, he has my respect.

cheebdragon's avatar

@chris- where do you come up with this stuff? Seriously….....?

boffin's avatar

@cheebdragon and again… ‘Thanks’

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

Please be more specific. Which stuff are you talking about? I will gladly post links.

cheebdragon's avatar

The mysterious powers of McCain….

And how the terrorists are winning because they hate us for being free?
(that doesn’t make sense)

SquirrelEStuff's avatar

I say the terrorists are winning, thnkks to laws like FISA, the Patriot Act, military commissions act, and violent radicLization and home grown terrorism prevention Ct.
Not mysterious powers of McCain, its the power of the media. This is why I am against these polls we constantly get thrown in our face. If the media is constantly telling us who is ahead in the polls, no one can question when they win. The media can say that Donald Duck a leading in the polls and if he wins, who are we to question?

tWrex's avatar

@cheebdragon I ditto @boffin’s ditto. Speaking as a newish disabled Marine Corps vet, I can tell you right now, Obama can say whatever the shite he wants about leaving Iraq. It aint happenin. Leave now. Create super Iran. Great idea, right? And the reason people say that it will cost us more if Obama is in office is because historically dem’s have raised taxes while rep’s have lowered them. That’s probably the main reason.

I’m not saying the last 4 years have been great. I’ve lost my job, lost my home, receive the worst VA care in the ENTIRE US (thanks for the help with that Obama), filed for bankruptcy and now live in my in-laws basement with their 3 other children. Oh yeah. I’m living the friggin’ dream man. Rich white Republican. Most def.

dalepetrie's avatar

You know, my two cents on this are that McCain and Obama are not as far apart on the war situation as everyone likes to think. The rhetoric is that Obama will get us out as fast as he can, 16 months tops, no matter what, that’s what tWrex is buying into. Conversely, many dems buy into McCain wanting to keep us actively engaged for 100 years. The reality is this.

McCain thinks we need to achieve “Victory” with a capital V, that is the only acceptable outcome for him. The problem is, with an insurgency, where you’re not battling a country, his definition of Victory (treaties and such) is kind of outdated and doesn’t really apply. Bottom line is, you can quell the insurgency but in a region which has been at war for 1,000 years with 3 separate religious/political factions, it’s not as simple as just saying, OK, we won, the hostilities are over. There will always be dissaffected people of some stripe, the goal is to get mainstream acceptance of a new way of doing things and to back it up by a fully trained and independent peacekeeping force run by the Iraqi government. That’s not where I see McCain going with this, but it’s where he will inevitably end up.

Obama conversely has set an artificial timeframe simply because you can not expect the Iraqis to police themselves at some future point without telling them how long they have to get there, otherwise, what is the incentive to even try. But Obama has all along treated this 16 months as a suggestion…we “should be able” to draw down in 16 months based on pulling out 1 to 2 battalions per month, which we will do subject to conditions on the ground. He has stated he will accept the input of his advisors on the ground, and that though he ultimately has responsibility as President for making the decision, he would want to make an informed one. He has said we must be as careful getting out as we were careless getting in. He seems to already understand and acknowledge that the way to peace in this region is to quell the insurgency while training a force directly by the Iraqi government to keep its own peace, and to give them timetables for meeting these goals, not to bind anyone’s hands or set anything in stone, but to make it clear that our goal is simply to bring stability and peace, not to “win at any cost”.

I personally like Obama’s approach much better, and indeed, the Iraqi President has endorsed a timetable similar to Obama’s…it’s their country, and they want us to do what Obama is suggesting, not what McCain is suggesting. Right there, that should tell you something about who has the better judgement on this issue.

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