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Why the B in B.S.?

Asked by Jeruba (55831points) July 15th, 2022

Why bull, specifically? Why not ox or cow, goat or pig? Why not moose or rhinoceros, who must have prodigious S? Ponder for a moment the S of a brontosaurus. Why are we so particular about bulls?

We do recognize horse in the same context, and chicken, though we never say “H.S.” or “C.S.” What is it that makes the bull variety so exceptional?

I hope RDG is proud of me for asking this question.

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eyesoreu's avatar

Dates back to the 17th century from the old French word bole, meaning deceit/fraud.

LostInParadise's avatar

I read somewhere that, apart from its meaning, profanity has a pleasant sound, is euphonic. I suspect that holds for both B.S. and what is stands for.

elbanditoroso's avatar

I have frequently heard “horseshit” – like “what Trump said was total horseshit”.

I’ve also hear ‘chickenshit’ – like “the Yankess have a chickenshit team this year”.

Never heard goats, pigs, oxen, or other animals.

kritiper's avatar

Horse, like bull, is there, undeniably. Usually in a large amount.

Blackwater_Park's avatar

Horseshit is used frequently. It’s a higher level than bullshit. Don’t forget chickenshit, but that of course has a different meaning. I think. B.S. is just a more recognized.

Jeruba's avatar

You didn’t see that horse and chicken were both in my details?

I’m just asking, why “bull”? It’s the most-used term, to the point that it has its own abbreviation. How did the bull get to be the standard for meaning ignorant, stupid, worthless, or deceitful talk?

Dutchess_III's avatar

Because bull shit is giant compared to other farm yard animals.

flutherother's avatar

It may be because of the sound. Boo and bah are similar. They all make sounds that express contempt or anger.

smudges's avatar

Have you ever seen a Hippo poop? They twirl their tails really fast and when the poop comes out it’s flung far and wide in every direction. Fascinating! And that’s no bull!

Nomore_Tantrums's avatar

So everyone so the Cotton Eye Joe!! Stepped in what? Bull Shit! Just sounds better than horse shit or hippo shit.

eyesoreu's avatar

Asked & answered!

zenvelo's avatar

For 19th century Americans, bull shit was an everday occurence, and anyone on a farm knew it was even messier than cowshit. Most people never saw hipposhit, elephant shit, or even ox shit.

raum's avatar

Middle English “bull”.

Though the etymology for “bollocks” (which I’m guessing is related) goes back to “ballocks” (clergy). And some say it that refers to how many people thought they were full of it. :P

elbanditoroso's avatar

Then there’s the the ‘Papal Bull’ wikipedia referring to a serious public decree issued by the pope, and having the seal (bull) attached to the bottom of the decree.

(Bulla means ‘boil’ in this context, referring the fact that the metal seal had to be warmed up to receive the seal, which was pounded or embossed into it).

So “that’s a lot of bull” could refer to an unwelcome message from the pope.

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