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Why do most of the people on Fluther now seem to have such short fuses and itchy trigger fingers?

Asked by Sakata (3332points) May 13th, 2009

#1 – I’ve been watching questions for some time now and noticed how pissy people get at the simplest things. If someone posts a joke, comment, or response that someone else doesn’t like, it’s blown so far out of proportion that it makes me sick. Then that person’s click gets involved and it turns into an all out lynching.

FYI: You can let some questions go. You don’t have to post on them ALL. You can’t possibly have an opinion about EVERYTHING, and if you do most people don’t want to hear it.

#2 – The clicks and elitism are getting too far out of hand. If you disagree with that then there’s a good chance you’re part of it all.

I would like to throw in a disclaimer like “I’m not trying to piss anyone off or anything” but I am. Not like that’s hard.

Summary: There are a lot of people around here who really, REALLY need to relax a bit.

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nikipedia's avatar

I kind of feel like the whole world is going through this dark and scary and uncertain time, and people tend take out their frustrations where they’ll have the least consequences—the internet is a good candidate for this.

Just take it in stride and do your part to quell the ripples, dude. Sooner or later things will swing back in the other direction.

benjaminlevi's avatar

The internet is anonymous, we get to be asses and don’t have to deal with the consequences so we become less polite.

Dansedescygnes's avatar

Yeah, I’ve noticed some of the “clique” thing going on. It happens on every website like this. And I’ve been long-time members of 2 others besides this one and I’ve seen it happen. On this site, there have been a couple times where I felt like I was being ganged up on by a “clique” of people here, but it hasn’t happened enough for me to consider it an epidemic or anything. I tend to be a bit sensitive, so when something like that happens I feel like I don’t want to come back here, but I did, so what does that tell you? Most of my time here is pleasant—obviously, otherwise I wouldn’t keep coming here. And I agree, I think people do need to take a chill pill every now and then; I mean, it is just the internet after all…

DeanV's avatar

I’ve also noticed this. But especially after the wid.dm migration. It just seemed like a lot of the older flutherites we tired of the thinly veiled “Fuck you fluther!” questions seemed to jump on just about anybody that has come from wis.dm, or any new member in particular. People just seemed to get a little tight after that. And for good reason. It was a little difficult to watch, from a spectators standpoint.
But I’m glad that has seemed to calm down. We really haven’t had any wis.dm questions in the last few weeks. It’s been a good break, and I think everybody seems to have calmed down.

I guess I really noticed it then. I’m not saying it all happened then, it just seemed to get a little tighter at that point. But I could be wrong. Maybe that’s just how we are. I just hope not.

Can you link to any threads that show these characteristics? I’m a little curious, but I also like reading the flame wars…

fireside's avatar

There are cliques here?

I agree with nikipedia, sometimes people just get heated too quickly and once the threads get emotional everyone hops in with their two cents.

The idea isn’t to battle it out until one idea wins. We’re all here sharing.

YARNLADY's avatar

Oh for heaven’s sake, not that tired “good old days” argument again. Go back to the first year and read about the disagrements and arguements and bannings for yourself. It’s all there in the Way Back Machine

DeanV's avatar

@YARNLADY I was never here during the “good old days”. I don’t even know what the “good old days” are.

I was just stating my own observations. Granted, that last comment was incredibly stupid, though.

wundayatta's avatar

Could you give examples of these pissy conversations and say who you think is in what clique?

Just so you know, I belong to a cabal dedicated to the hijacking of every fifth electron on the internet. So be careful! We might decide to pay attention to you! Please, please, please don’t ask me who “we” is. The cabal always gets confused at that question, and sometimes has to have a retreat in the library, just to get ourselves sorted out. Some say it’s a multiple personality thing, but I think you could hardly call us a clique! Oh stop, Rancid. You always have to take the contrarian position. Whatever you do, don’t let daloonagain appear.

El_Cadejo's avatar

I dont really think there are cliques around here. (guess that means im in one of them lol) Sure there are some users i am more friendly with than others, but i will still disagree with them if i think they’re wrong.

@YARNLADY sure, there were disagreements and arguments back then, but a LOT has changed. Its all there in the way back machine.

TaoSan's avatar

Sakataaaaaaaaaaa! I still love you!

Fun aside tho, if people post stuff that defies common sense, then I wouldn’t see everyone else as “clique’ing” up because they share the same opinion of a post.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@Sakata i’m pretty sure there’re a few people on here, who, inexplicably, do have an opinion on everything. not that it’s worthwhile, but they’ve got it!

as for cliques, yeah, they do exist. just ignore them, like i do.

DeanV's avatar

Personally, I don’t exactly think anybody has an opinion on everything, but everybody has some comment about grammar…

_bob's avatar

Whatcha talkin’ about, “short fuses”? You want a problem? Is that is? Huh? Huh?

Oh, erm, nevermind.

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

Cliques are everywhere, not so with cabals so will someone please let me know when I’m getting warmer to finding the rabbit hole? woo hoo!

cak's avatar

It comes in waves. There are times when people just do get a bit more picky, testy…whatever you want to call it. Usually, when I start getting that way, a day or two away is a great cure. I figure if I feel that way and find myself getting annoyed at things happening here, my delivery probably isn’t very friendly, either. Sure, people do get very picky on here. Yes, some people can be very over critical…I just may be one of those people! It happens, we’re all human.

J0E's avatar

The internet is full of cliques, trolls, know-it-alls, bitches, and whiners…the sooner you accept that the more you will enjoy it.

DrasticDreamer's avatar

People are more pissy lately. Quite a bit, actually.

RedPowerLady's avatar

Isn’t this just reflective of life?

Ivan's avatar

Internet: Serious Business

Supacase's avatar

I have obviously not been here long enough because I didn’t realize any of this was going on.

oh, sorry, I guess that means this is probably one of the questions I should have skipped

Aethelwine's avatar

@Sakata Did your wife make you watch The Breakfast Club again?

Darwin's avatar

I know I don’t own anything with a trigger so I don’t think I have a trigger finger, itchy or otherwise. I also can’t seem to find a fuse, short or long, anywhere about my person. Did anyone notice if I had one when I came in?

And if there are cliques and cabals here, how come no one has ever asked me to join one, huh? Huh? HUH?

Oh, my! I guess I can become testy sometimes.

Actually, I have found that it seems to go in cycles. People get a little trigger happy, the mods do some work, and the fur on the back of everyone’s neck lays flat again.

ubersiren's avatar

I can’t help it- I’m on my period.

augustlan's avatar

Sakata! Long time, no read… welcome back.

I haven’t even noticed this, and you’d think I would since I see every flag, every day. I think things have been quite civil lately. I also don’t think there are ‘cliques’, just different groups of friends. ‘Cliques’ implies an “us against them” mentality, and I truly don’t see that at all. People who lurve all over one another in one thread are duking it out in another.

YARNLADY's avatar

@ubersiren lol I love it, but what are you going to say when you’re my age and can’t use that one?

tiffyandthewall's avatar

i was just thinking the same thing.
i don’t really see the clique thing happening, just groups of people who are closer than others. so i’m not bothered by it at all.
but everyone is so goddamn touchy! okay, i can see grammatical corrections getting annoying when they happen so frequently. but even more annoying are the people who act as if it’s a personal attack and get so irritable over it. if someone corrects my grammar, and that makes them happy, then i’m absolutely cool with it.

i don’t know, i’ve just seen a lot of general irritability lately. i don’t know if there’s an increase – maybe with more new folks? – or if i’m just noticing it more now that someone’s brought it up. maybe everyone should just take a chill pill and a half.

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

I am in a clique all by myself, so you had better watch out. I have an itchy fuse and a short trigger finger, and I’m not afraid to use them both on you all. Oh crap, I just scratched my itchy fuse with my short trigger finger and completely blew off my big toe. Dammit!

DrasticDreamer's avatar

@evelyns_pet_zebra If your trigger finger is short, are you sure it can reach the trigger at all? ;)

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

@DrasticDreamer well of course I can, I have arms like an orangutan.

ru2bz46's avatar

@tiffyandthewall Please capitalize your sentences and proper pronouns. ;-)

elijah's avatar

There are only a few people who make my eyes roll and then I yell “shut the fuck up already!” at the screen. Some of my very favorite people disagree with me on some issues, but I’m ok with it. I don’t think standing by your position is aggressive as long as it doesn’t become a personal attack.

Dog's avatar

I want to join @evelyns_pet_zebra‘s clique. The power of one.

I do think things are beginning to settle down now. @sakura (nice to see you back) I have noticed some threads going horribly astray that I did not understand but do think as some have suggested that a recent invasion of Trolls might have some ready to shoot first and ask questions later.

All this being said it is my sincere hope that these moments are behind us.

It does seem that the trolls are abating and there have not been any major hacks on the site in a long time either.

Dog's avatar

I would also like to add this regarding cliques.

I genuinely like flutherites. I try to welcome new Flutherers.

Much of my time on Fluther is spent searching in the archives. There I have learned a lot of great information and also learned more about those who have contributed.

Often when posting on a light-hearted thread I will bring up past quips in fun especially with those who have shown a sense of humor.

I assure you all that ALL flutherites are in my clique- just keep posting so I can get to know you. :)

bright_eyes00's avatar

a lot of people arent mature enough to not get angry. I get riled up sometimes by some of the things people say but not to the point where I will post something rude or offensive to that person. I always at least try to have a decent argument or point when I respond to something along those lines

oratio's avatar

In my opinion, fluther threads tend to be quite free of flaming and are very civil.
I liked wis.dm (that short time), I like fluther, I still don’t get Soul Pancake (it looks cool, but seems to work harder on being hip instead of efficient).

It appears to me that there is a clique lurving each other, rather than lurving the answers. But I guess that’s unavoidable. It’s a community.

TaoSan's avatar

@Dog

Ha! You wish! Oh wait, I spilled the beans already!

DarkScribe's avatar

@Jayne You sure it is clique? Maybe claque is more appropriate to the poster’s intended meaning.

casheroo's avatar

just posting to post.oh my itchy fingers!

dynamicduo's avatar

Opinions are like assholes. Everyone has them, and some of them stink.

You can choose to be offended and riled up all your life at this fact, or choose to accept it and deal with it. I choose the latter. Getting upset over what Internet people say or do? Is that really what I want to have spent my life on, when I’m on my deathbed thinking back? Hells no!

Cliques? Elitism? Where’s your proof/examples?

Communities change, people change. Some sites become better over time, some die. Some allow the changes to happen, some fight back. Hey, it’s almost like social website evolution! The successful mutations stay and gain more members, while the unsuccessful ones die out.

MissAusten's avatar

When will I get my clique invite? Is there a lurve minimum? When I reach the 2000 mark, will the PMs start flooding in?

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

@MissAusten I have decided to add you to my clique, as only a select few hundred thousand will be allowed in. Just keep your itchy fuse holstered. Those things are dangerous.

spresto's avatar

For me it is simple. You either leave me alone or talk to me with respect, you won’t get F@#$ed.

elijah's avatar

I’m having a level 3 clique sleepover. Bring snacks. I haven’t yet pierced the inner circles, but I’m on my way.

ru2bz46's avatar

I don’t get offended by people here. There’s no point. Everybody has their own personality and their own opinions. If somebody flames me, I just figure they have a different opinion than I do and their personality is rude. Why should I take it personally? They don’t know me enough to make it personal. Luckily, I haven’t been flamed. I don’t think. Hell, maybe I have, but I’ve put it out of my mind. I am happier this way.

@MissAusten I’d like to formally invite you into the clique that I’m in, but you have to identify the clique, first.

fireside's avatar

That’s it, I’m leaving spresto alone.

I don’t want to get F(at) (Pound) (Dollar)ed!
Or is it F(at) (Hash) (Buck)ed?

IchtheosaurusRex's avatar

Well, I can’t go off on my co-workers or I will lose my job. So if I have to abuse someone, it might as well be here.

elijah's avatar

@fireside I got atpounddollared once. It was a life lesson I will not ever forget. Please respect @spresto or you will be sorry. For reals.

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

points flamethrower at ru2bz46

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

@elijah the last time I got atpounddollared, I ended up having to clean far more of the house than I intended. I think I will leave spresto alone, too.

ubersiren's avatar

@YARNLADY : Menopause, maybe? Old crotchety woman syndrome? :)

@elijah: Clique sleepover? Will there be zombie hunting?

Why are all my responses in this comment questions?

janbb's avatar

@ubersiren I don’t know, why are all your comments in this thread questions?

Is this a rhetorical question?

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

I think ubersiren has a fear of asking legitimate questions the normal way and overcomes her phobia by putting questions in comment boxes, or I could be barking up the wrong tree. What do you think? Oh crap, now I’m doing it.

Dr_C's avatar

THIS THREAD IS REALLY STARTING TO PISS ME OFF! I NEED TO RANT AND GIVE SOMEONE A PIECE OF MY MIND! I´M GOING TO GO OFF ON SOMEONE SO BAD THAT…. SOMETHING BAD WILL HAPPEN!

Anyway… yeah.. people are getting a little overly sensitive and the tolerance level has gone down a couple of notches. Non sensical questions used to get a laugh out of everyone (anyone remember the frizer?) where as now the asker gets jumped from every direction.

As far as cliques go… SOME of you will be receiving your official T-shirts, decoder rings, oficial handshake instructional video (complete with choreography) and membership card along with a goody bag that includes jelly fish shaped brownies. Those who don´t get their invites… well…. you´re just too cool.

Dog's avatar

@Dr_C Are you not on vacation? Why are you not off getting atpounddollared?

I dearly hope to be atpounddollared with pancakes before I leave for NY tomorrow.

Dr_C's avatar

@Dog i´m on vacation but Mrs. C isn´t. So while she´s at work i´ve been getting a lot done… today i borrowed her computer to come chek on my jellies. Get mine back this afternoon.

MissAusten's avatar

Dude, you can get serious diseases from going around atpounddollaring random people. Didn’t you see that segment on Dateline?

elijah's avatar

@ubersiren Hells yeah there will be zombie hunting. I hope I can get asmonet to “slum it” and come to the sleepover, but she’s a higher tiered jelly so who knows… She is the zombie authority. I need her :(

ru2bz46's avatar

When we find a zombie, do we atpounddollar it?

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

@Dr_C: I’m relatively new to fluther and at first really really enjoyed it and posted with enthusiasm until I was told my sort of questions are not the kind fluther was designed for and in the future, they would be hustled off to some alternative page. Kind of puts the brakes on feeling all happy and shiny, you know.

Dr_C's avatar

@hungryhungryhortence i used to get that “not-so-shiny” feeling once in a while… but one day i decided to stop feeling non-shiny and be awesome instead. True story.
(keep your chin up… like all things fluther is a cyclical creature and the good humor will return. slowly).

augustlan's avatar

Atpounddollared. My new favorite expression.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

I didn’t notice the cliques yet
maybe I don’t spend enough time on here

ru2bz46's avatar

Wow, I just noticed that @evelyns_pet_zebra got more lurve for pointing a flamethrower at me than I got for saying I’m not offended by being flamed. Should I be offended by that?

3or4monsters's avatar

@ru2bz46 Don’t fall down the rabbit hole!

Dog's avatar

@ru2bz46 Quip that you will point a flame thrower back at him.

wundayatta's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir At last count, there were some seventeen cliques on fluther. Eight of them were anonymous, so no one knew if they were in them or not. Ten had admission criteria, which you will find posted in the fluther rules and regulations. Another five are black market cliques, and you can only find them standing on a corner in LA at three in the morning.

Then of course, there’s the most important clique: me! But you can’t join that one, because you aren’t me.

ru2bz46's avatar

When I grow up, I want to be @daloon.

ru2bz46's avatar

Before you get all mushy, it’s only so I can get into such an exclusive clique. But, then I’ll let everyone in. :-)

oratio's avatar

Ok. I have to ask. What the hell is atpounddollared? I searched.

I looky hear, I looky thurr. I no find. No find for dis explinatun! @£$? 234?

I have a feeling this is something I should know already. Please don’t hurt me. Much.

augustlan's avatar

@oratio see @#$

The number sign (#) is also called the pound sign. :)

Dog's avatar

As @Augustlan linked- the answer you seek is 33 posts up. ^^

oratio's avatar

@augustlan
@Dog
Oh, I see. f@#$ed. atpounddollar. It’s an essential part of procreation. At some arbitrary place, you pound someone for a dollar. I have so much to learn.

CMaz's avatar

Everyone has a right to an opinion and how they wish to express it. Especially on here.. The question is not really about other people but yourself. Do you take their advice for what it is worth. Or are you that sensitive to let it get to you? It’s the old sticks and stones thing.

TaoSan's avatar

If anything, Sakata is NOT oversensitive ROFL!

CMaz's avatar

LOL It was not meant to attack Sakata’s character. But to make a point. Look, instead of taking the advice for purpose or not. You felt to defend your friend. What is that about? With all due respect you you both. Remember, the fault, dear Brutus, lies not in our stars, but in ourselves.

TaoSan's avatar

@ChazMaz

Noooooo, LOL ;)

I meant Sakata wouldn’t get his bum off the couch if the neighbor’s house was on fire not sensitive, haha!

Right? LOL

Welcome to Fluther by the way…

I still lurve you Sakata :)

CMaz's avatar

Ok, got ya! :-) It is that lack of inflection. Gets ya every time.

TaoSan's avatar

@ChazMaz

Yeah, stick around for a while, you’ll get the hang of it ;)

Dog's avatar

@ChazMaz hey Welcome to Fluther ( not sure if I properly welcomed you)

Sakata's avatar

And I would never use the word “bum” when “ass” takes so much less effort

evelyns_pet_zebra's avatar

@ru2bz46 see it’s like I’ve been saying, violence sells. People watch NASCAR not to see a driver win, but to see some poor SOB hit the wall in a ball of fire.

ru2bz46's avatar

Flame on…

Dansedescygnes's avatar

I just thought of the perfect example of cliques happening on here for all you clique-deniers out there:

On several occasions (not necessarily involving me) I noticed someone would post an insulting comment, one that had nothing to do with the question and did not answer the question; it just took a jab at another user and it got 3 or more “Great Answer” votes. Now, it comes to my attention that a “Great Answer” is one that answers the question, no? I think that would be an example of taking the “Great Answer” button to mean “Great Comment That Owns Someone Not in Our Clique”. Trust me, I’ve been in cliques on other sites, like one time on AIROW this person came on and was posting stuff about how too many people were arguing with him (he was just a kid) and myself and others just kind of “ganged up” on him (not planned or anything, it just happened) and he couldn’t take it and announced that he was never coming back to the site and he never did. That instance opened up a whole discussion about cliques on AIROW. It happens on every site like this, it happens in real life, it’s just what happens and there’s really no avoiding it.

oratio's avatar

@Dansedescygnes Yes, I agree, but there has been instances where a person comes in and makes a hateful or very ill founded comment where people simultaneously protest, which I don’t see as a a clique gang up. But there are people obviously lurving each other cause they like the person, and not making GA’s to perfectly good answers from persons they don’t like. This site is somewhere between a QnA and MySpace.

Aethelwine's avatar

I’m not saying that I don’t like Crusader. I don’t know Crusader well enough to make that judgement yet. I will say that I gave Crusader a GQ this morning (even though I didn’t answer the Q) because I thought it was an interesting question. You can have 15 lurve or 15000, I don’t care. If I like what you say, I’ll give you lurve.

This whole idea of cliques is silly. There are people that you get along with and some that you don’t. It’s as simple as that.

oratio's avatar

@jonsblond Yes, I too have given him GA when I agree, though not many. Though I have the impression that he thinks I dislike his presence here, which is not unfounded by the comments I make sometimes, but I don’t. But would you have taken up crusader as an example if you didn’t think his comments have been controversial many times? I do agree that there isn’t that big a presence of a clique here, but it seems to me that there is a bunch of people “holding hands”. So I don’t think @Dansedescygnes is completely off.

@Crusader I will correct obvious spelling errors in your questions again if I see them. It is meant as help, not criticism. If you don’t want it, just ignore it.

Crusader's avatar

This site is developing into a true, honest Forum, there is hope for us all yet. ; )

oratio's avatar

Another thing I want to say, is that I think it’s unfair and unfounded to blame ex wis.dm:ers for trolling and lowering the quality of the site.

Aethelwine's avatar

@oratio I agree. There were trolls before the wisdmers came here. I think the time for blaming people from that site is over. (hopefully)

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@jonsblond

Yeah, but why do you (“you” is general here, addressing anyone) have to show that you don’t get along with someone by giving a GA to an insulting comment that doesn’t answer the question? That’s where I think the “holding hands” thing comes in.

Making fun of someone is not a “great answer”. It just isn’t.

And yes, I think the time for blaming people from that site is very over.

Aethelwine's avatar

Can’t answer that. I don’t give great answers to people that are being rude.

oratio's avatar

@Dansedescygnes I don’t know either. Either way, I still think Fluther is a great place.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@Crusader it’s amazing how it’s “true, honest Forum” (sic) when you hear what you want to hear.

as for @everyone who finds fault because someone GAs a comment that they don’t find helpful, or perhaps because you thought your comment was more beneficial and wasn’t GA’ed – that’s the breaks. Some people GA simply because they found the response clever. That’s the thing, you can pass out your lurve as you see fit. If you choose to be tight-fisted with your lurving, saving it for dry, long-winded pedantic babble, that’s your choice. someone could find fault with that, but most won’t.

there’s a question on here somewhere regarding when and how you choose to lurve. i suggest looking it up.

also, i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again, if your primary source of advice is anonymous help from the interwebz, you probably need to go outside for a while. while there is benefit to Fluther, predominately, it’s a source of entertainment.

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@eponymoushipster

It’s not just that you don’t find it helpful, but that it’s insulting. How is an insult helpful?

See, giving something a GA is supposed to show that it’s a good answer. It’s supposed to be a “that’s helpful” button but most often it’s an “I agree” or “hear, hear!” button. In terms of giving it to insults, it’s being done because you like seeing this person you dislike get insulted and “owned” as it were.

The point is, I’m not going to give an insulting comment a GA and every time I see one with multiple GAs, I can tell it’s because the person that it’s insulting is disliked by a group of people on here, which was the original point of the first comment I posted on this thread today.

Dr_C's avatar

@Dansedescygnes your point is well taken and there is no excuse for ganging up on someone. However some of the situations in which this happens are instigated when one person (the one “under attack” as it were in this scenario) repeatedly makes offensive remarks that offend a group of people and will go to some lengths to continue with said train of thought.

There have been threads on the site mentioning how the holocaust was staged… threads condemning the beliefs of others… and threads just meant to incite discord.

Most (not all of course) of these situations occur after the appearance of a troll… something very common on the site in the past.

So yeah… not cool to gango up on people.. but in some cases people try to elicit this kind of response.

And how you distribute your lurve is YOUR BUSINESS… if you like to lurve clever comments or something YOU agree with even if it doesn’t seem helpful or on topic.. that’s your prerogative. NO ONE gets to tell you who or what to like.

@eponymoushipster you sir are a gentle-monkey of the highest order.

oratio's avatar

@Dr_C He is nice isn’t he. He gave me a cherry danish. I love pastry.

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@Dr_C

I’m not telling anyone what to like; but it’s clear to me what the original intent of the GA was. I’m just explaining that I follow the original intent. We had this on AIROW too. It was called a “moronic” button. The rules of the site said posts that didn’t contribute to the discussion or were insulting should be voted “moronic” because they would get deleted with enough moronic votes. It turned out that most people used “moronic” to mean “I disagree” even if the post contributed and was not insulting. I just don’t like seeing things used that way. But go ahead and do it. Clearly, there’s nothing stopping anyone.

Doesn’t mean that I won’t continue to believe that’s a stupid use of it; that’s just my opinion. And I have a right to voice my opinion on it. This question provided me an opportunity to do so, so I did so. I did nothing wrong.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@Dansedescygnes where does it say what GA is supposed to be? GA is whatever GA is to you. if you want to GA some racist bigotry, go on. it’s a free world, baby.

in my opinion, a large number of GAs on a “burn” quip would seem to indicate that that statement is a group consensus regarding the “burned”, perhaps taking the words out of the collective mouth (or at least thought).

if you don’t like it, don’t do it.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@Dr_C back at ‘cha, doc.

@oratio that wasn’t cherry, that was brake fluid….ohboy

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@eponymoushipster

And I don’t. But I can still talk about it. It’s a free world.

oratio's avatar

@eponymoushipster I understand you do a lot of brakejobs.

Dr_C's avatar

insert rimshot here——->

oratio's avatar

@eponymoushipster Spanking the monkey?

eponymoushipster's avatar

@oratio is that what a brakejob is?

DeanV's avatar

Don’t you know you’ve got to shock the monkey?

oratio's avatar

@eponymoushipster Dammit, I can’t tell if you are still messing with me or actually wants to know. I would go for the former. Damn you, monkeyman. You win again.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@oratio if brakejobs = “spanking the monkey”, wouldn’t that mean other people are handling my bait and tackle?

@dverhey damn skippy.

El_Cadejo's avatar

@Dansedescygnes i cant say for anyone else, but i will GA those off topic comments sometimes not because im cliquey with the person who said it, just i lold thus GA.

I also dont think you can draw the conclusion of their being cliques from your example. You really have no clue who clicked the GA. Or is it just all that agree with a comment like that automatically in said clique?

Aethelwine's avatar

Cliques like to click the GA for people in their clique. Isn’t that cliquey.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@jonsblond that’s like something outta west wide story.

Darwin's avatar

If various of us are supposed to be in cliques, then shouldn’t there be some sort of list we can look at to see what clique or cliques we are in so we know who to GA?

I mean, no one has told me that I am in a clique, although I have been accused of being male (I am not) and liberal (I am) and anti-Christian (I am not). Does that mean I am in some male, liberal anti-Christian clique? If so, who else is in it with me?

And if I am the only member of a clique, is it still a clique?

eponymoushipster's avatar

@Darwin wait – you’re not? now we have to scratch you from the list….dammit.~

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@Darwin

Ha. I thought you were male up until a couple days ago. And I thought evelyns_pet_zebra was female.

When I joined AIROW, everyone thought I was a girl. I don’t think there was a single person who thought I was a guy. That’s why I had to post a picture of me eventually.

ru2bz46's avatar

@Dansedescygnes I thought that was a girl in the pic. ;-) ~

Darwin's avatar

@eponymoushipster – Sorry about that – Do you want to borrow an eraser?

@Dansedescygnes – Sorry about that, too. I have a deep voice so very often people on the phone think I am male. Sometimes people who see me face to face even call me “sir” (either they need glasses very badly or they think I am in drag as I don’t try to look male at all).

BTW the dog in my avatar is female. Her name is Gracie.

eponymoushipster's avatar

@Darwin nah, it’s ok. i have a clique pencil.

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@ru2bz46 That’s Harriet on the left and me on the right. :P

@Darwin I have kind of a high/feminine voice (compared to most other guys—it’s kind of hard to describe), so people on the phone think I’m a girl sometimes. But not as much as when I was in middle school…haha…that was bad. My voice was so high and girly back then…

Darwin's avatar

@Dansedescygnes – In middle school they had me sing tenor because all the boys had voices that were too high and often girly.

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@Darwin

Are you serious? That’s freaky. Just in case you were wondering, this is what I sounded like in 8th grade when I was 13: http://s242.photobucket.com/albums/ff293/Onnajanai/?action=view&current=Speech1.flv

(Graduation Speech)

augustlan's avatar

@Dansedescygnes Aww, you looked so cute!

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@augustlan

:) haha…thanks. Middle school was the peak of my cuteness. :P

Darwin's avatar

@Dansedescygnes – Yes, you were indeed cute and quite serious, but if your avatar is a current picture you are still cute. However, your voice in the video is like those 90% of middle school boys that I know. You can hear why they had me sing tenor.

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@Darwin

Avatar is very current. ^_^

And yeah, I can see why now. I was in a middle school musical once, “Guys & Dolls”; I was a background singer.

Allie's avatar

What the hell happened here?

Dog's avatar

@Allie I think they all formed a clique. :)

Dansedescygnes's avatar

Yes, I know, big joke now. Haha. I’m lollerskating in my roflcopter.

I remember one time on this site when I posted something against another user and a bunch of people starting posting against that and someone actually said “we stick up for our own kind”. If that’s not a clique, I don’t know what it is.

Goodnight everyone.

YARNLADY's avatar

@Dansedescygnes you are correct, you don’t know what one is. The example you have given is a group of friends, not a clique. You have exaggerated the influence of the users with each other.

Dansedescygnes's avatar

@YARNLADY

Oh wow, thanks for enlightening me. Actually, nevermind. A clique is an exclusive group of friends. Now, a group that calls each other their own kind does not really sound very inclusive to me. In fact, it sounds pretty downright exclusive.

Look, I am not here to fight about the definition of a clique. I just think there are some instances where people on this site band together and exclude other people. As I mentioned that I myself did on AIROW.

Darwin's avatar

I don’t exclude anybody. I just reserve the right to tell folks when I think they are being stupid or mean. I also reserve the right to completely ignore folks I don’t like.

How can there be any true cliques here if the majority of communication is out in the open where everyone who wants to can read it? It’s not like we can send mass PMs to our special little group of Flutherites to say “Ooh, that person is wrongity-wrong-wrong, and we must all band together and exclude him/her from something.”

Aethelwine's avatar

@Darwin “wrongity-wrong-wrong”. Lurve it!

was that cliquey of me?

augustlan's avatar

^^ New favorite expression.

Darwin's avatar

@jonsblond It’s only cliquey if we don’t let anyone else lurve it

seventeen123's avatar

I’ve noticed that a lot of people are just too defensive…

lostman101's avatar

Its because i’m better than them.
End Of Discussion

Val123's avatar

One thing I’ve noticed here is that if one person doesn’t read the question correctly, and jumps to a wrong conclusion, everyone coming in after that user picks up on that same wrong conclusion and it can be a mess trying to get it all straightened out!!

stranger_in_a_strange_land's avatar

Fluther is a model of politeness and civility compared to anything else online.

cornbird's avatar

Maybe its because mostly everyone in here is smart people and we just dont like shit…...

Darwin's avatar

Probably it’s because we didn’t get what we wanted for Christmas.

CMaz's avatar

Because we make our shit sandwiches BIG.

plethora's avatar

It’s more fun that way??

Just_Justine's avatar

I am quite new to Fluther. I have posted a lot of questions and been very happy with my answers, that people take the time to reply and read it is enough. Some answers are just silly, which is OK, I get my silly answer mood too. Other are quite rude. But that is life. I don’t actually care enough to make it matter. It’s just like life. The good, the bad and the ugly. I also don’t care if I am in a clique or not. As Long as someone is around to say hi now and then I’m good!

Just_Justine's avatar

@ChazMaz loll, hello chazmaz xx

Dr_C's avatar

@Just_Justine for a newbie you seem to fit right in!
Also… i don’t have an itchy trigger finger or a short fuse. Who told you that? I’ll fight them!

Val123's avatar

@Dr_C I didn’t like your answer at ALL!!

CMaz's avatar

Ya know… I do not like humor on here. You both need to stop it!

Dr_C's avatar

<—- runs and hides

CMaz's avatar

Ok… You do know I am joking… lol

Dr_C's avatar

@ChazMaz: I’m hiding from @Val123

Val123's avatar

@Dr_C You can run but you can’t hide! I shall find you and challenge you to a du-ell!! Where are you??!!

Dr_C's avatar

@Val123 I’m at Chaz’s house… he has a gun so be ready!

Aethelwine's avatar

haha…won’t @Sakata be surprised when he sees all this new activity on his thread, See @Sakata, it’s a friendly bunch! :D

Val123's avatar

@Dr_C Well I have a bazooka AND ten itchy fingers so just give me the address and let’s have a du-ell! Actually, I have a Surface to Surface missile too so…just give me the address and I’ll fire it from here….Be much easier all the way around for everyone and I won’t have to miss NOVA. @ChazMaz…you do have insurance, don’t you? Or, you might want to set Dr C outside on the lawn so I don’t mess up your house….

@Sakata Well, thank you for this question, really! :)

DeanV's avatar

So you guys, I’ve got this mosquito bite on my trigger finger…

Val123's avatar

@dverhey I’ll nuke it for ya!!

MissA's avatar

@nikipedia

Did you say, “quell the nipples”?
Sounds like the making of a great quote.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

<revives old thread for no particular reason>

Aethelwine's avatar

ahaha. The person who asked this question is an old co-worker of my husband’s. Look at all the past users who are no longer with us. :(

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

I know! I don’t recognize many of the names here.

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