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Do you eat at Chick-Fil-A? If you do, will you anymore after seeing this (details)?

Asked by Blackberry (33949points) November 1st, 2011

This chicken shack donated nearly two million to anti-gay groups in 2009. Why would they spend so much money doing this?

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syz's avatar

Apparently it’s the “Christian” thing to do, discriminating against others.

ANef_is_Enuf's avatar

I’ve never eaten at a Chick-Fil-A.
That whole page is pretty disturbing.

Blackberry's avatar

Why the hell would they drop so much money on this? It’s insanity.

lillycoyote's avatar

No. I learned of there agenda quite some time ago and really never ate there to begin with but after learning about them I decided I never would.

muppetish's avatar

I have never eaten there and now I never will. Any other places I should be avoiding?

lillycoyote's avatar

@Blackberry I have never quite understood why some Christians are practically obsessed with homosexuality. Jesus called his followers and disciples to do a number of things but obsessively opposing homosexuality was absolutely not one of them.

Blackberry's avatar

@muppetish Target did the same awhile ago.

john65pennington's avatar

Scratch this restaurant off my list.

I did not want to eat there, anyway.

ANef_is_Enuf's avatar

Crap. I really like Target. :( Damnit.

woodcutter's avatar

The food is way overpriced for what you get. That’s why they have extra cash probably. I went there one time maybe 20 years ago.

Jude's avatar

I feel that those politicians who are anti-gay probably are closeted homos.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

Never eaten there either. And after this, I never will.

Joker94's avatar

That’s so unfortunate…I really liked Chick-Fil-A..

woodcutter's avatar

Pretty much everyone who has or starts a business has some kind of political lean to them. They can do what ever they want with their expendable money. And we all have a choice to not patronize them. I wonder how many customers Starbucks gave up when they decided to let people with legally carried guns come into their stores? I mean it doesn’t seem like a lot of conservatives go there, but I could be missing something.

Neizvestnaya's avatar

I’ve never been interested to try their food, oh darn. While you’re at it, research the backgrounds of our largest food producers- farmers, livestock yards, factory processors, water treatment companies, banking institutions, mortgage holders, grocery stores, etc.

Kayak8's avatar

Chick-Fil-A and Target are both OFF my list . . . and I will send them letters explaining why I can no longer patronize them and will let them know that I am letting all my friends know as well. It worked when we all boycotted Cracker Barrel . . .

lillycoyote's avatar

@syz I isn’t the “Christian” thing to do; it’s only what some Christians do.

snowberry's avatar

I’ll continue to shop there, just like I shop everywhere else.

woodcutter's avatar

We would all probably be boycotting most of the places we’ve been if we only knew what their owners think. They provide a service and as long as they don’t allow their beliefs to influence their front end of their business then it’s all fair. I mean how many left leaning biz owners donate money that goes against things conservatives support? It’s probably a lot but someone with a lot of time on their hands may want to find out.

bkcunningham's avatar

What are they doing? Donating to Christian organizations?

Blackberry's avatar

@woodcutter I agree, we wouldn’t be able to shop anywhere. But I just have a special place in my heart for dispelling blind discrimination!

@bkcunningham Some were christian organizations, yes. But those organizations also seemed to want to spend their time and money keeping ignorance alive.

lillycoyote's avatar

@bkcunningham Check the link in the details. Not simply Christian organizations but ones that have a clearly stated anti-gay and anti-gay marriage agenda.

mrrich724's avatar

Chik-fil-A is not open for business on Sundays because it observes the Sabbath. Chik-Fil-A’s ownership is devout in its faith.

The Fellowship of Christian athletes (just one example) is NOT an anti-gay group. If that’s the logic people use, then they probably shouldn’t patronize any businesses, because every business is going to make a donation to SOMETHING SOMEBODY doesn’t like.

I doubt Chik-Fil-A has an anti-gay agenda, but it’s obvious SOMEONE has an agenda when they spend time writing articles like this.

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

“I doubt Chik-Fil-A has an anti-gay agenda”*… Well here’s some evidence that they are anti-gay:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fellowship_of_Christian_Athletes#Criticism

…the claim from National College Conference coordinator Danny Burns that “God freed some people from homosexuality” at the organization’s 2011 annual conference for “over 200 college athletes from 45 colleges around the country.” The FCA website also includes the testimony of a coach who claims, “I was delivered from homosexuality.”

lillycoyote's avatar

@mrrich724 This is from the Fellowship of Christian Athletes own website:

FCA’S SEXUAL PURITY STATEMENT

God desires His children to lead pure lives of holiness. The Bible is clear in teaching on sexual sin including sex outside of marriage and homosexual acts. Neither heterosexual sex outside of marriage nor any homosexual act constitute an alternate lifestyle acceptable to God.

While upholding God’s standard of holiness, FCA strongly affirms God’s love and redemptive power in the individual who chooses to follow Him. FCA’s desire is to encourage individuals to trust in Jesus and turn away from any impure lifestyle.

Their position is neither pro-homosexuality, nor is it neutral toward homosexuality. If their position regarding homosexuality is neither pro, nor neutral, I’m not sure what’s left but “anti.”

Espiritus_Corvus's avatar

There are plenty of fast food businesses and there are plenty of fast food businesses that don’t financially support groups that want to reach into your private life and control what you do in your own home, on your own time, with your own dime. Don’t succumb to the complacent view that there are no unobjectionable businesses to trade at. Don’t be cynical, be smart.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

Holy crap! My kids like Chick-Fil-A, but we don’t eat there very often because I think it’s overpriced for the amount of food you get… but I definitely won’t eat there now.

Jude's avatar

Is Chick-Fil-A all across the U.S.?

bkcunningham's avatar

They are anti-sex outside of marriage too.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

You mean aside from the fact they don’t serve chicken, but feces?

Facade's avatar

I love Chick-Fil-A’s food, and I don’t agree with entire agenda, but that doesn’t mean I’m going to stop eating there. Almost everyone gives their money to companies that do or have done things they, personally, would not agree with.

bkcunningham's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir, you are distracting me. Could you cover your knees please.

WillWorkForChocolate's avatar

@Facade That is so true… I quit shopping at Target for a while, because they donated money to Planned Parenthood, which I despise, but I realized I wouldn’t be able to shop anywhere if I knew what every company was donating money to.

Dr_Lawrence's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir please ignore @bkcunningham ‘s request.

I believe there are not Chick-Fil-A franchises here in Canada. To me their product sounds like a Poly-filla wall patch products make out of chicken or its byproducts.

I sure would not patronize a restaurant with such an explicit anti-equality agenda.

bkcunningham's avatar

Hey, @Dr_Lawrence, I wanted her to cover them and uncover them in a slow hypnotic dance like motion. She knows I’m kidding.

fizzbanger's avatar

I love Chick-Fil-A. Damn!

I did notice the religious music while peeing there one day. Normally it’s a drive-thru kinda affair.

Linda_Owl's avatar

I do not eat there (frankly, I rarely eat out – I prefer my own cooking !). But I do know about their donations to anti-gay groups. It is their money & if they choose to spend it foolishly, there is not much we can do about it – other than by not patronizing the restaurants. The best answer would be to stop trying to mix religion with business, education, or government. Religion rarely makes anything better (other than increasing the collections) & religion’s stance on the gay issue is ridiculous.

Brian1946's avatar

I’ve never eaten there and I resolved not to eat there awhile ago, because that’s when I found out about some objectionably religious activities of theirs. Thanks for reminding me why I will continue not eating there.

I haven’t eaten at Carl’s Jr. since the 80’s for basically the same reason: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carl_Karcher#Political_activities

anartist's avatar

I jus’ gotta free samwich thassall. Nevah heard of ‘em before.
No feelings about food and politics.

MRSHINYSHOES's avatar

I’m not a chicken person. I don’t like chicken anyway.

deni's avatar

Yes I eat at Chick Fil A. It was also my first job, and the company as a company is pretty awesome, but this is upsetting. They are super Christian, so I understand it. I don’t want to support it, but their chicken is soooo good and their pickles are the best in the world so :(

Qingu's avatar

Their food is overrated anyway. I mean okay the nuggets are good compared with mystery-meat-and-seaweed chicken mcnuggets and the like. But their breading is soggy and their fries are completely lackluster.

mrrich724's avatar

But does Chik-Fil-A give them money b/c of their stance on homosexuality, or because Chik-Fil-A is Christian, and is supporting Christian organizations?

The Christian faith does not support homosexuality, so basically, don’t support anything Christian or you have an anti-gay agenda . . . that’s how this comes across to me.

Christianity’s gay stance is one facet of many beliefs.

It’s one thing to say you don’t agree with Christianity’s stance on homosexuality, it’s another to say that supporting Christianity, or believing in it, causes you to have an anti-gay agenda.

Regardless of what the Athletic organization’s website says, does Chik-Fil-A say, “We are supporting the Christian Athletes because of their views on homosexuality?

Dr_Lawrence's avatar

@bkcunningham Of course I recognised that you were jesting.

Returning to the main discussion:

Are we as a society to accept that all of the many denominations and variations of Christian faith and the many individuals who identify as Christian in some form or other hold the the same view. These people, then all abhor homosexuals and how they live. They all support organizations that exclude and marginalize homosexuals and promote hatred towards this and other identifiable groups.

Is this what we are to believe is what characterizes Christian faith, love and charity?

Please inform me and support this argument with doctrine endorsed by all Christians.

Blackberry's avatar

@Dr_Lawrence Well, when people that happen to be christian go as far as enacting anti-gay legislation, what are people supposed to think? They definitely aren’t Constitutionalists.

lillycoyote's avatar

@mrrich724 That isn’t true, that all Christians or that all Christian churches or denominations oppose homosexuality. The Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the largest Lutheran denomination in the United States, with about 2.5 million active members, not only does not oppose or condemn homosexuality, not only welcomes gays and lesbians into their congregations, but ordains “practicing,” that is non-celibate, gays and lesbians, in committed, monogamous relationships into the ministry, as pastors, as clergy. And the ELCA is not the only one.

There are a number of Christian organizations that Chik-Fil-A could support if it was merely a matter of them supporting Christian organizations. Chik-Fil-A has chosen to donate money to and support Christian organizations that have clearly stated anti-gay and anti-gay marriage positions.

Jude's avatar

How about Subway?

Blackberry's avatar

@Jude I stopped going there, anyway. In NJ, all of the local italian places make real subs :)

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