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What if we knew for sure about the existence, or lack thereof, of God?

Asked by livelaughlove21 (14587 points ) December 13th, 2012 from iPhone

What would you change if it was proven indefinitely, without a doubt, that God existed? Would you behave, think, or feel differently? In what ways?

If you already believe, what if it was proven, without any doubt, that God doesn’t exist? What would that change?

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Shippy's avatar

It great to see so many questions about God on Fluther, people are obviously searching?

If he didn’t exist I’d be pretty much the same person all round.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Shippy It was actually a question I found on another site that I thought might be interesting.

nofurbelowsbatgirl's avatar

If God didn’t exist I would also be the same person I am. I do think the only thing it would change is I may not pray to God himself. In this case I believe he exists so I pray to Him and talk to Him. I also believe my dead husband is around me and I talk to him also. If the other side didn’t exist I would be sad, I am actually looking forward to it, in a positive way.

Michael_Huntington's avatar

“Why doesn’t God smack down astronauts like the Tower of Babel?”-Jasonwiese55

filmfann's avatar

In the Old Testament, the Jews witnessed many miracles of God, from the opening of the Red Sea to food falling from the sky, to their shoes not wearing after walking 40 years in the desert. Still, they turned their backs on Him and invented icons to praise.
It doesn’t matter if you have empirical evidence, people believe what they will.

Bad example: how many people think there was an explosion at the World Trade Center tower just a split second before the jet hit it? I have people arguing with me that it was an inside job, when the answer is Right There!

JenniferP's avatar

I believe in God. If I found out he wasn’t true, I would probably be more free and do things I won’t do now. That isn’t necessarily a good thing though.

Coloma's avatar

I think a lot of people would behave a whole lot better. Me? I have never committed any sins that would earn me a 1st class ticket to hell, so I am safe in that department. Whew!
If there is a god watching he is proud of me tenderly tending my flock of geese like a good little shepherdess, and, I give the sheep strawberries too. lol My good doings far outweigh my minor falls from grace.

burntbonez's avatar

Nothing would change. People already do know for sure. Many are sure of His existence. Many are equally sure of his non-existence and many are unsure about it either way. As far as I can tell, none of it makes a difference in how people behave in the world. People do what they do. The morals they use to justify their behavior are just that: justifications.

We believe we are thinking and choosing, but I think most of our actions are determined by biology. Beliefs help us tell a story. They help us explain our behavior, but only after the fact. You can not predict a person’s behavior based on what they say they believe. God being a fact or not a fact makes no difference. God is not associated with behavior. God is associated only with stories.

chyna's avatar

There would be less arguments on Fluther.

Kropotkin's avatar

If it was proven that god existed, I would wonder what the hell he was up to doing nothing to stop all the natural disasters and diseases.

I’d perhaps petition god to pull his divine finger out of his godly arse and start actually doing something about the mess he created.

Maybe I’d join some sort of protest group against god, calling for his resignation and to appoint a more competent caretaker.

CWOTUS's avatar

I guess I still don’t see a lot of Christians, even the nominal ones, all of a sudden praying to the various Hindu gods. Not right away, anyway.

Coloma's avatar

Hey….it’s quite possible Jesus traveled in asia and maybe even picked up much of his philosophies from the hindus. Ya know Buddha predated Christ by 600 years, so really, his teachings were old news.

CWOTUS's avatar

Just imagine, too, if it was Zoroaster after all, and It came to earth and asked aloud, “How many of you are still Zoroastrians?”

Deafening silence.

“Well, okay then. Gon’ be some changes heah.”

augustlan's avatar

Not much would change for me. I already try my best to be a decent human being, and the existence of a god wouldn’t change that.

Unbroken's avatar

Hmm what type of God would this entity be?

I would no doubt change something. Either I would certainly spend less time wondering about life.

I would no doubt find ways to question him convince him things should be different if possible. Like a government official. Arrogant yes. But he created me that way right?

I think I might spend a lot of time being angry. Feeling powerless if he were the type of God who is what dogmatic Christians make him out to be.

It would not doubt become an unhealthy obsession.

I find it hard to imagine a world where I could accept him as a loving good figure or that I could be sympathetic about the purported sinners who refused to bend a knee.

Yes I would be sabotaging myself. I have pride. And a sense of right and wrong and he offends it.

Let the dictator dictate. Let the fighter fight. Let the idealist dream. Let the angry cry out and rage. The supplicant supplicate. Let the questioner question. The defiant be defiant. The deviant deviate. For God made it and saw that it was good.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

I’d go about my life as before.

Bellatrix's avatar

Nothing would change. I always try to be the best person I can. I don’t need a God to exist for me to take responsibility for and care over my actions, attitudes and treatment of others.

Rarebear's avatar

If it were scientifically proven that there were a God, then that would mean God were explainable by testable means. If God were explainable by testable means, that would mean that God wasn’t a god.

So in my case I’d say, “Cool. Another scientific mystery solved. Next.”

Symbeline's avatar

Depends what kind of god it ends up being like. If it’s one of the earlier versions of God where He’s all cruel and sends you to Hell because you exist, then fuck em.
But if He’s more a loving god who wants you to enjoy your life, that would be cool having a god like that.

Of course, whatever the god in question was like, if he appeared before me, no matter what I say I’d prolly be shakin in my boots and would do whatever the hell he said. I mean, seriously, imagine having a god pop up in front yo ass goin, sup homey? Could the human mind even handle it? If God exists, perhaps this is why He won’t physically show Himself to peeps, you gotta wait till you pass on and achieve a greater form of existence or something.
But eh. I suppose if God was proven to all, the world and its people would change quite a lot. I imagine that most people would behave as said god wanted, so the world could be a lot of different things, depending on how cool the god is, or how much of an ass he is.

Other than complete and utter fear, not sure how much I would change. He made me how I am, so if He doesn’t like it, let Him think about it twice next time He creates a state of existence.

ragingloli's avatar

Which god?

ucme's avatar

I go for Kratos God of War!!

Seek's avatar

It would, of course, depend entirely on the proven god in question and its attributes. Can’t imagine I’d be very happy about it, though.

bookish1's avatar

Which god are we talking about? I don’t know what to say when people ask if I “believe in God” because I am not a monotheist and I don’t believe in the desert sky king who ate all the other gods.

livelaughlove21's avatar

God as in capital-G God. Not a god, but the God of the Abrahamic religions I suppose. The one omnipotent God that 3 of 5 of the world religions believe in.

ragingloli's avatar

I would kick that one in the testes and then lob his bloody head off. Or, at least I would try.

Coloma's avatar

I have a real, live nativity scene over here this morning. You should see it. Just sunrise, pink sky, misty, and 3 sheep and 2 donkeys cuddled up together on the frosty grass in a cloud of steamy sheep and donkey breath. haha

Symbeline's avatar

@ucme I bet Xena could kick Kratos’s ass! XD

ucme's avatar

@Symbeline Hey, now don’t be starting that shite, unless he really wanted her to, the kinky fucka!

ragingloli's avatar

Son Goku would fry both their arses!

Symbeline's avatar

Goku doesn’t even know how to drive. seriously there was a whole episode about that I vote for Vegita to kick their asses.

ucme's avatar

This bitch got all their arses covered…..okay, maybe not XD

Seek's avatar

I was kind of turned on by Vegeta. Especially in the later seasons.

ragingloli's avatar

In the German Dub, at the beginning of the series, he was voiced by the same voice actor that does spongebob.

ucme's avatar

Here’s a fucking epic mini-game from GOW.
I remember when my son first played it, over & over again, for shits & giggles naturally.

ragingloli's avatar

You can’t even see anything.

ucme's avatar

Yeah it’s a shit vid, but those who have played the game will remember it, fondly.

ragingloli's avatar

not talking about the quality of the vid.

ucme's avatar

then your point is simply lost in the wind….funny smell too.

livelaughlove21's avatar

The significance of anime is lost on me…

Seek's avatar

I think it’s a special genetic predisposition of the lonely, teenaged nerd.

livelaughlove21's avatar

I actually meant the significance of it regarding the topic of the original question, but that sounds about right.

Seek's avatar

Ah. Well Son Goku fused with the Dragon Balls, and thus became a deity. Who could subsequently kick the respective asses of Xena and Kratos, according to @ragingloli. Xena and Kratos were mentioned by @Symbeline

QED.

Symbeline's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr I was kind of turned on by Vegeta. Especially in the later seasons.

Ha yeah, he’s a kickass character. I’m pretty sure I would have never followed the Z series if he wasn’t in it. He kinda sucks in GT though, how he grows a mustache and becomes a family man. I think, never really bothered with that one.
Plus I love his little theme song with the bells. Take that, The Exorcist haha.

@ucme Ha I remember that minigame. Gives you back health or something doesn’t it?

ucme's avatar

@Symbeline Yeah I think so, been so long since I played the game.
Good advice though, “feeling tired or a little worn, then replenish your energy by humping two gals in a big boat!!” XD

Seek's avatar

I didn’t watch GT either, except for little clips of Gotenks. ^_^

Symbeline's avatar

There’s a video game with Conan the Barbarian on PS3. Never tried it, but apparently it took a cue from GoW minigame.

ucme's avatar

I’m guessing Conan wields his mighty cue then…...

Symbeline's avatar

@Seek_Kolinahr Isn’t everyone little in there again? Like Kakarot turns into a kid cuz some guy figured he could beat him like that, except he didn’t know that he’d still retain all his power. That’s what kinda threw me off. Dragon Ball followed Kakarot as a kid and that show lasted like 12 years. ya think that’s enough?

And yes, being a Vegita fan, I do exactly like him and call Goku by his real name haha.

@ucme Apparently, the game is filled with boobs everywhere.

ucme's avatar

Never a bad move.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@livelaughlove21 What do you mean ‘3 of the 5’? There are far more than 5 religions on my block, let alone in the world.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir Yes, there are many different religions, but the world religions I’m referring to are the big five: Islam, Christianity, Judaism, Buddhism, and Hinduism.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@livelaughlove21 Judaism in number 6, I think. Sikhism is number 5.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir Depends on your source. According to my anthropology textbook, I’m correct, but I’ve seen a few websites support your claim. Regardless, I was not suggesting that there are only 5 religions in the world.

Seek's avatar

@Symbeline Ha ha, I do that a lot as well. Kakarotto.

Yes, he’s resurrected as a child and ends up being something like five years younger than Goten. But he’s still him, still has all his memories. That’s all I know, though. Like I said, I never really watched it.

ragingloli's avatar

I refused to watch GT. It is an abomination. The new villains were retarded, and then they turned the old villains into jokes. Frieza and Cell were serious enemies and a formidable threat for Goku and friends. But in GT, they turned them into weak pathetic caricatures.

Paradox25's avatar

It depends on how views mysticism. According to many religionists a god/s are viewed as a transcendental entity, outside of space and time, so this would make it virtually impossible to disprove such an entity according to scientific methods.

In my own opinion if such an entity (god/s) does exist then yes it could be proven to exist, or not. I’m on the side that nothing can be outside of science. If the existence of a god is somehow proven to be false then my own belief in some type of supreme mind existing would come to an end. Personally I don’t enjoy debating the existence of a god because I find this to be futile.

Symbeline's avatar

@ragingloli Good to know, now I want to watch it even less.
Frieza and Cell were serious enemies and a formidable threat for Goku and friends.
Indeed. I don’t even wanna know how they managed to mess up those two guys. they actually scared me a little, especially Freeza.

@Seek_Kolinahr Oh so he got resurrected. Damn. I had a friend in Winnipeg who watched DBZ with me, she wouldn’t miss a single new episode, but once she said; if Kakarot is so strong, why is he always dead? XD

ragingloli's avatar

@Symbeline
Goku never actually managed to defeat an endboss comfortably.
He defeated Piccolo when he was distracted by flying into his back. Before doing that, Goku had a hole in his chest and all four limbs broken.
He did not defeat Radditz, he only had him in a full nelson while Piccolo used the Makankousappou to kill both of them.
He did not defeat Vegeta either. Bloody Kuririn did with the Genkidama that Goku assembled before, and the Genkidama, as you know, is energy collected from the surroundings, not his own. Goku was laying on the ground with shattered bones.
Goku was being completely destroyed by Frieza and only managed to turn it around by transforming into a Super Saiyajin.
He did not defeat Cell. Goku died. It was Gohan that defeated Cell.
And Buu was only defeated with the biggest Genkidama ever, e.g. energy that was not Goku’s. Before that, he went through everything, SSJ3, Fusion with Vegeta, and nothing worked.

ucme's avatar

Dweebsville, a tiny hamlet just outside of Bremen.

ragingloli's avatar

@ucme
How about you go eat a Spotted Dick? :P

ucme's avatar

A bizarre request, no ta, I much prefer chewing on a pussy.

livelaughlove21's avatar

…and this shall be the first time I’ve ever stopped following my own question.

Symbeline's avatar

@ragingloli I’m guessing that maybe they were trying to sort of get a new protagonist? During the Cell saga, Kakarot was just busy having that heart disease most of the time. (if I remember correctly, but that was more during the android appearances) Gohan pretty much took stage center during then and for the whole saga. But yeah, did Kakarot really ever defeat anyone lol?
Lot of the characters are kind of comic relief, but Kakarot was starting to fit that bill pretty good for barely having any brains lmao. (mind you, that could easily be what crap English translation does, but I don’t speak Japanese so…)

ragingloli's avatar

@Symbeline
You should watch TeamFourStar’s Dragonball Z Abridged series. It is hilarious.

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