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What is the fallacy in this statement, "Never trust a chubby trainer" ?

Asked by pleiades (6538 points ) July 22nd, 2014

An acquaintance of mine who I met in art school sports these shirts and sweaters with the slogan, “Never trust a chubby trainer.”

I thought it was all in good food, but now I think she truly believes it.

What are your thoughts of the slogan?

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Pazza's avatar

The fallacy is, that a trainer is an inanimate object, and therefore can’t be trusted or not trusted?

And a chubby one will probably fall off your foot…...
So why you’d still use it is beyond me?

Esedess's avatar

Quantification Fallacy

A quantification fallacy is an error in logic where the quantifiers of the premises are in contradiction to the quantifier of the conclusion.

Another example of this type would be, “all philosophers are wise.”

Pazza's avatar

Ye, what ^ they just said…...

KNOWITALL's avatar

If your trainer is chubby why would you trust their judgement though? Why pay for expertise if there’s none?

Esedess's avatar

@KNOWITALL
Would you not trust a doctor because they had a cold?

The expertise of a trainer is knowledge to the method of efficient physical training. Whether or not they partake in the methods of their knowledge doesn’t mean they don’t know what they’re talking about. In other words… Do as I say, not as I do.

SadieMartinPaul's avatar

@Esedess “Would you not trust a doctor because they had a cold?”

No, but I wouldn’t trust a doctor who’s an obese chain-smoker.

I never take job advice from someone who’s chronically unemployed, and I wouldn’t pay good money for a personal trainer who’s overweight and out of shape. Before accepting any advice or guidance – whether paid or free, and whether solicited or unwanted – a person should carefully consider the source.

Esedess's avatar

@SadieMartinPaul

On the whole, I agree.. I would tend away from the types you mentioned above as a general rule. But that’s personal preference in my real life, not factual discretion on a logical basis. Pertaining to the question of this fallacy, it’s necessary to discern between the two.
An obese chain-smoker who went to 7 years of medical school knows no less than a healthy eater who went to 7 years of medical school. Personal life choices don’t factor into professional credentials. I’m sure you know some great fat doctors.
If you value the same medical opinion of one over the other… LOL!
Sorry, I just had to take a minute to imagine standing in a room full of fat female doctors telling me, “you have cancer.” Then me going, “hmmmm…” Looking around to find the one attractive/in shape one and pointing at her, “What do you think?”
hahahah~ xD

At any rate, I’ll grant you the personal feelings that inhabit such decisions. We all have them. Me too.

tedibear's avatar

I think it’s ridiculous. Size is not an indication of fitness or health.

FireMadeFlesh's avatar

I’m with @Esedess. I know many fat doctors. However doctors undertake rigorous academic training, while a personal trainer can qualify in just a few weeks.

A personal trainer must showcase their credentials in their body, because there are far too many poor training practices being taught today, and I want to know if my trainer is teaching the right approach. A trainer will generally help you emulate the results they themselves have achieved.

FireMadeFlesh's avatar

@tedibear Are you kidding?? Do you actually believe size is not an indication of health??

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

Fallacy or not, I think it is a spot on statement. If I were trying to lose weight of get into shape, I would not choose someone who doesn’t appear as if what they are trying to train me to do is working for them, or worse, they are not even bothering to do their own training regimen. I would I hire a mechanic because he has a breakdown or an accident? Cars break, but if his car always break or is never repaired, why would I believe he would do better with mine? A chubby trainer to me says lazy trainer, so how can he motivate me if he can’t even motivate himself? I also would never trust a chubby chaser.

hearkat's avatar

I’d trust a chubby trainer, because they can understand my struggle; but I could never trust a skinny chef.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@Essedess My SIL is a personal trainer & seeing her body is inspiring. It’s her showcase for her methods.

Esedess's avatar

@KNOWITALL
Understandably. Not being in top physical condition is just bad business in that industry.

SadieMartinPaul's avatar

“Physician, heal thyself.” Luke 4:23

I believe this means that a person should attend to his/her own defects before criticizing someone else or giving counsel, advice, and guidance.

livelaughlove21's avatar

That statement is ridiculous.

Meet Mark Rippetoe. Dude knows his shit and I’d choose him as a trainer over any buff dude or skinny chick at the gym.

I’ve found that most personal trainers know squat about fitness (get it?), so I’d hesitate before trusting any of them, but size had nothing to do with their knowledge about working out.

ARE_you_kidding_me's avatar

Honestly that’s going to play a major role in sizing up someones qualifications. The Dr. scenario really is different because of the immense training a medical Dr must endure. A personal trainer may have a few classes to take if that. I’m much more inclined to trust a trainer who is in shape and lives what they do. They are more likely to be able to help you do the same. The filter for trainers is not as dramatic as it is for doctors. It’s easier for flakes to get into the field. Just knowing that makes me discriminate on the surface a little more.

SadieMartinPaul's avatar

@livelaughlove21 “That statement is ridiculous.”

I strongly urge you to call the Bible and vent your complaints.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@SadieMartinPaul….what? Call the Bible?

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@livelaughlove21 I’ve found that most personal trainers know squat about fitness (get it?), so I’d hesitate before trusting any of them, but size had nothing to do with their knowledge about working out.
Maybe that is because you do not need a trainer, in that plaid shirt, Dukes and cowboy boots you could leave the club/bar with most any man. If you really needed a trainer, the thought might be different ;-)

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central You’re right, I don’t need a trainer. But it’s not because I’m already fit. I wasn’t always fit, and the only way to stay fit is to work my butt off, and I do. I just didn’t waste money on a personal trainer – I did my own research and did it all myself.

I keep hearing from women that tell their PT they want to start lifting and they either start them off with weights that are WAY too light or they start them off on machines to build “basic strength” before maybe moving on to free weights, which is just stupid and makes no sense. It’s sad that people are trusting these idiots with their bodies and many of them don’t know what the hell they’re doing themselves.

I actually never get hit on, so I doubt I could leave the bar with any guy, even if I wasn’t married. My husband says I’m “unapproachable” because I look “high maintenance” and “intimidating.” Ha, whatever!

Hypocrisy_Central's avatar

@livelaughlove21 I just didn’t waste money on a personal trainer – I did my own research and did it all myself.
Maybe personal trainers are for those too lazy to do their own homework? ducking

I actually never get hit on, so I doubt I could leave the bar with any guy, even if I wasn’t married. My husband says I’m “unapproachable” because I look “high maintenance” and “intimidating.”
Nah…….I say if it wasn’t a gay bar, it was the ring. I have known plenty of guys who were not dissuaded by a ”high maintenance “ looking woman; that might even draw them more.

livelaughlove21's avatar

@Hypocrisy_Central I don’t frequent bars much, and when I do they are country bars, because I live in the South and those are the type of friends we tend to go out with. Country boys want simple country girls. Simple country girl I am not.

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