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Why are so many women anti-feminist?

Asked by Ivy (2476 points ) December 17th, 2009

Is this a backlash against the women’s movement of the 1970’s? And is sexism inherent in this backlash against feminism?

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YCLYHO's avatar

didnt know they were – i know a lot of men are….......

TexasDude's avatar

Many women have been led to equate feminism with misandranism by the anti-feminists.

The_Anonymous_Witch's avatar

they are not .. you are just over- feminist

GingerMinx's avatar

I think a lot has to do with the bad name feminism has been given by a lot of men and some very strident feminists.
@Fiddle_Playing_Creole_Bastard i did a search but I couldn’t find ‘misandranism’, want to fix my ignorance and tell me what it means?

CMaz's avatar

You ladies be what ever you want. ;-)

Ivy's avatar

@The_Anonymous_Witch And you base this opinion of me on asking one question. Don’t believe everything you think.

Ivy's avatar

@Gingermix It means hatred of men.

Gokey's avatar

@GingerMinx Misandry is the hatred of men.
aah Dracool you beat me to it!

TexasDude's avatar

andro is a prefix meaning “male”
as gyno is a prefix meaning “female”

As in misoGYNY.
And therefore, we have misANDRONY.

ETA: beat me to it

The_Anonymous_Witch's avatar

@Dracool. yes i base this opinion of you on asking this one question . just as you asked this one question because you wanted to voice yours . ....... it worked ,, just maybe better than you wanted

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

Because most women prefer to have a lving relationship with a man and feminism has become so feminazi that it is almost impossible to have the one while being a feminist.

Blackberry's avatar

@Kelly_Obrien You do have an excellent point there lol. I don’t see how any gender could show malice towards another.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

@Blackberry
It would seem to go against our very nature!

Sampson's avatar

Because women are stupid.~

Blackberry's avatar

Women are smart, they know, no matter how many times they have been disrespected, that there are good meen out there, and vice versa.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

@Sampson Now that was intelligent…

Sampson's avatar

@Kelly_Obrien On Fluther, the ~ symbol indicates sarcasm.

Kelly_Obrien's avatar

@Sampson

You were not very judicious with this particular choice of sarcasm. I am sure you have many many girlfriends who enjoy your brand of humor.

lillycoyote's avatar

What is your definition of “anti-feminist?” Civil rights and liberation movements really should be about liberating people to think for themselves, to make their own choices, to control their own destinies. It is not about trading one group of oppressors for another. In this case, it is not about liberating yourself from male oppression only to be told by other women how you should act and think and behave. One of the effects of “liberating” women to think for themselves, and to make their own choices, to control their own destinies is that they may not always agree with how some feminists define feminism. I know I don’t.

GingerMinx's avatar

Thank you everyone for the explanation. I thought it might have been that but wanted to be sure.
@lillycoyote Good answer, I agree with you.

Anon_Jihad's avatar

Maybe they agree with Jon Lajoie?

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

Because they don’t know what it actually stands for. Nor do they know that they are actually feminists.

airowDee's avatar

because women are afraid of confrontation or appearing disagreeable.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@airowDeeconditioned to be afraid of confrontation…

airowDee's avatar

its their own damn faults. I am sick of those women.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@airowDee well since conditioning of a docile attitude begins during childhood and often times education against their upbringing doesn’t happen, it’s never entirely anyone’s fault

tinyfaery's avatar

There are lots of types of feminism and I don’t think most women understand that. Ignorant attitudes that lead to calling women feminazis doesn’t help either.

Ask any woman and I’m 99% sure they will tell you women deserve to earn the same pay for the same job. Well, that’s a feminist issue. People are so limited in their thinking.

lillycoyote's avatar

Wow, for feminists some of you don’t seem to have a very high opinion of women: ideas, words, phrases you are using: ignorant, uninformed, conditioned, docile, unable to understand, limited in their thinking…

La_chica_gomela's avatar

I disagree with the premise. You know, @holden asked a question about a week ago: ”Are you a feminist?”, and not a single woman has said no.

tinyfaery's avatar

It’s an ignorant opinion no matter whose it is.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@lillycoyote just because they’re women doesn’t mean I will automatically think of them highly – some women are ignorant, uninformed and docile…hell I just described every woman in my family

GingerMinx's avatar

I think the definition of feminism got lost somewhere along the way. To me it means equality of the sexes. That means if a man gets paid $10 an hour and I do the same job I should be paid $10 an hour. Many seem to think that it means I no longer want a guy to hold a door open for me, wrong, he just shouldn’t be surprised if I hold a door open for him as well. Its all about taking control and responsibility for your own life.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@GingerMinx that’s what it means for me too

mattbrowne's avatar

Because a new generation of men is different from the (influential) men back in 1970. There are still macho men with (hidden) agendas, but they are a dying species.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@mattbrowne I do want to live where you live because around here, even in NY, they’re not at all dying off fast enough

mattbrowne's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir – Competition will take care of that. Let the macho species hire below average men, while modern organizations recruit top talent from both genders.

My company owns as tall building on Wall Street and I’ve been there many times. For us diversity is a top priority, not only in New York but everywhere. It’s part of all our management programs. Our large Istanbul subsidiary in Turkey for example is run by a woman.

Simone_De_Beauvoir's avatar

@mattbrowne One woman in a top position doesn’t mean much, to me. Is that supposed to be such an impressive thing?

mattbrowne's avatar

@Simone_De_Beauvoir – It’s really not about one woman in a top position. Turkey was just one example. I like this example because Turkey is a Muslim country.

We employ over 70,000 people worldwide. The whole corporate culture is built on many principles and one is that we hire the best people from both genders. This happens in New York, in London, in Singapore, in Milan, in Paris, in Frankfurt and so forth. Now, archaic organizations who still prefer to hire men will lose their competitive edge. Because they are run by the remaining specimen of the macho species, they will end up with a lot of below average men. Therefore I said their competitors will take care of the situation. And the trend is accelerating as more and more people become knowledge workers. Who needs muscles? We got machines for that. Who needs purely task-oriented people? We’ve got more and more computer programs for that. Who needs interpersonal skills? Who needs emotional and social intelligence? Teams of knowledge workers do.

DrEldonTyrell's avatar

They do not wish to be told what to do and think, by other women as well as men.

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