Kinda along the lines of “be careful what you wish for” I think.
Buy your dream home, silver lining”, having to maintain it a cloud, haha @ibstubro I’d agree, to a degree, but certain things do not have a positive, like homelessness or deadly diseases and other extreme sufferings.
You can only run just so far with this sort of pop psychology of positive thinking.
An example might be, ” I have just become a quadroplegic but gee, I can still see and hear.”
Not much consolation in that. haha
@ibstubro The illnesses I have dealt with have a silver lining. I am more appreciative of the simple things in life, and I feel my suffering has helped me with problems I dealt with later in life and that I could help others with similar problems. I would give all that experience, knowledge and appreciation back in a second to have not gone through, and still be going through the shit I deal with. The only reason I am even talk about any silver lining in regards to my life is to try to find some good in the bad, but what choice do I have?
There once was a poor rice farmer, who had a very small field just large enough to feed his family. Then one day a herd of wild horses came running through the village. They ran into the farmer’s rice field and got stuck in the mud, and since they couldn’t get away, they were his.
His neighbor came running over and said, “This is good news! Such good fortune! You are rich, this is amazing!” And the rice farmer said, “Good news, bad news, who knows?”
A few weeks later the farmer’s 12-year-old son jumped up on one of the wild horses for a ride, only to be thrown off and have his leg broken. The neighbor comes running over and says, “Oh no, this is such bad news!” And the farmer said, “Good news, bad news, who knows?”
A week later a Chinese general is marching through the farmer’s village on the way to war. On this march, the army is conscripting every healthy boy over 10 years of age. So they took every boy in the village except the farmer’s son because of his broken leg.
The neighbor comes running over and says, “Yes! This is wonderful news, how lucky are we!” And the father replies, “Good news, bad news, who knows?”
@thorninmud Very Buddhist – but some things do make us sad and others make us happy. I was wondering whether the sadness underneath would ever go away completely but I suspect the answer is, it’s all part of the mix.
Well…right now, over here, my county is in crisis in the midst of a raging 3,800 acre, 6 sq. mile, out of control wild/forest fire.
10 homes burned, countless ranch buildings, 120 year old vineyards threatened, 100’s of people and animals and livestock being evacuated. No silver lining to this Pyrocumulus cloud. Heh!
@dappled_leaves No, they don’t, they are not Redwoods and Pinyons and Joshua trees, mostly various Oak species and Pine. I get what you’re saying, sure, fire is a natural restorative in nature, but, when thousands of humans and animals are losing their homes it is not much of a consolation.
@Coloma Yes, lodgepole pine is one of the classic examples of a serotinous species. It’s not about being “restorative”, it’s about increasing the genetic variability in the population, and the prosperity of the species over the long term. This is a species that is well adapted to fire.
I certainly didn’t say that this was “more important” than anything else. The question is about silver linings. Usually that implies a small good thing in the face of a large bad thing.
@janbb, it’s all part of the mix, but the mix only has as much pull as the attention we give. If you turn your attention inward toward the experiencer of the sadness and happiness, you may find there is a you that comes before the you who is “made” sad or happy. That you comes from a place of peace and is untouched by either.
@dappled_leaves Okay, I missed a species, but Ponderosa Pines and Digger Pines and Black Oaks and Heritage Oaks and Valley Oaks and Madrone and Manzanita do not need fire to reproduce. Sheesh…c’mon…my area is in crisis and you want to debate fucking tree reproduction.
@Coloma Ok, once again… my providing information relevant to the question was not meant in any way to imply that I don’t sympathize with your situation. I can’t believe I have to keep spelling that out.
Its all a matter of perspective.
One mans end of the world is another mans ‘oppertunity for an new begininig’
One mans ‘freedon fighter is another mans terrorist.’
The enivitable collapse of the world ecconomy might ‘usher in the next golden age???’
Or….... it might all turn to ratshit?
Personally, I’m an eternal optimist due to my belief that humanity runs in cycles.
Reading more of the comments above:
I kind of go along with the hindu philosophy (i think?) that says that , life should be a struggle, if it wasn’t, you wouldn’t appreciate the finer things in life, or, what may be considered to be the simple things in life, like, family, eating out with friends, being able to tie your shoe laces, holding a baby in your arms, talking to a neighbour, making a sandwitch, walking accross a border, drinking a cup of clean water…........
being born with everything you ever dreampt of just leaves you in a life thats a dream where everything you can think of is manifest for you without thought or appreciation.
Its lifes struggles that teach us to appreciate what we might otherwise nessessarily take for granted.
I might have it all wrong and be full of shit?
I guess time will tell.
In the grand scheme of things, none of us have long to wait to find out, or be tossed into eternal oblivian.
^^^ True, for many, but I don’t think starving people in Uganda, or victims of war or homeless folks or the families of all the air crashes lately or the fire victims in my zone would say that right now. It’s pretty serious to them.
@Coloma Are we talking about many people or are we talking about extreme circumstances? I was kind of thinking about the average person when I searched for the quote I used. There will always be pain with suffering. We have the choice to let it break us, or we can endure and overcome life’s hardships. What would Malala Yousafzai do?
@jonsblond Just saying that there are many circumstances that don’t have a discernible silver lining. I don’t think it is always about overcoming and enduring, I think that some things are not endurable or able to be overcome. Life should be more than enduring for many.