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Isn’t the proliferation of the pandemic an open illustration of the dysfunction of our national leadership?

Asked by stanleybmanly (22074points) 1 month ago from iPhone

Is there any other way to see it?

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SQUEEKY2's avatar

Oh MY GOD YES!!!!!
The top three worst countries in the world for the virus out of control have leaders almost as stupid as Trump and his administration.
Those countries are USA, Brazil ,and Mexico.

kritiper's avatar

What could our leaders possibly do to stem the pandemic?? Or is this about playing the “blame game?”

KNOWITALL's avatar

To me it speaks more to the selfishness of individuals as well as the lack of trust in the political parties and government in general.

Tropical_Willie's avatar

Delusional and dysfunctional.

He is starting to believe his own lies and miss truths.

“Well it seemed like it, based on the explosion. I’ve met with some of our great generals and they just seem to feel that it was. This was not a, some kind of a, manufacturing explosion type of event. This was a, seems to be according to them they would know better than I would, but they seem to think it was an attack. It was a bomb of some kind.”

None of the US Military know any such thing ! He likes to look important (might want to get back into reality TV) he just keeps talking BS SMDH

gorillapaws's avatar

Yes, but this goes all the way back to Obama’s failure to implement Medicare-for-all when he had the chance. Instead we got Romney-Care, which was the re-branded, Heritage Foundation Plan from the 90’s. Obama took this plan, wrapped it in DNC wrapping paper, abandoned the American people, and cashed his checks from the Heathcare industry and Big Pharma.

Countries that don’t have their healthcare linked to employment are having much better outcomes than the US, especially those with universal care.

And I’m not sparing Trump for his role either. He was late to the game, made nearly every mistake possible in handling the crisis, which will certainly cost tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars in wealth annihilated through ineptitude and incompetence. And I’m certainly not sparing the Democratic leadership in congress which put up no resistance to the trillions in corporate bailouts and the complete neglect of the working-class. Now you’re seeing desperate people who are compelled to engage in high-risk activity spreading this thing around because of their desperate financial situations. This of course prolongs the infection and ultimately costs much more in the end.

You’re going to find that countries with a strong social safety-net and universal healthcare are going to recover earlier and more fully from this thing than the US does.

stanleybmanly's avatar

But wasn’t Romney care the best that Obama could hope for in the face of conservative opposition to comprehensive universal coverage?

gorillapaws's avatar

@stanleybmanly Nope, they had a supermajority. Republicans would never have crumbled the way the Dems do.

Oh and if we had Medicare for all, we would not have gotten Trump in 2016.

SQUEEKY2's avatar

@gorillapaws It’s all ready showing that countries that have universal health care and strong social safety programs are doing far better than the States, but fright wingers would rather swallow poison than admit that.

stanleybmanly's avatar

@gorillapaws the supermajority was useless as long as that majority was beholding to the insurance and pharmaceutical industries. It was the insurance industry that devised Romneycare specifically to head off single payer universal healthcare.

hmmmmmm's avatar

^ Correct. Obamacare was specifically designed to stop single-payer. @gorillapaws’ point stands.

janbb's avatar

America.can’t even do maxks for all, I wonder how you think we’ll ever get to Medicare for All. We are a stupid, selfish nation.

gorillapaws's avatar

@janbb “I wonder how you think we’ll ever get to Medicare for All.”

Well it’s a winning issue. 67% of Americans want it (including 43% of Republicans). If a politician fights for it, there’s a good chance they’ll win the election. If I were a Democrat, I would be terrified that Trump will out-left Biden on healthcare. It would be an obvious tactic.

I think Biden proclaiming he would veto it is just more evidence that defeating Trump isn’t priority #1 for team Biden. Also 87% of Democratic voters support it, but the amendment to add it to the party platform was defeated 36 to 125. Again, the DNC is completely misaligned with their voters.

We’ll get Medicare for all when the people take back the party from fuckers like Perez, Biden, Pelosi, Schumer, Feinstein, Obama, Warren, Harris, Buttigieg, etc.

4 more years of Trump may expedite that process which far from impossible. Clinton was up 7 points on Aug 4. 2016, and Biden is up 7.4 as of Aug 4, 2020. Biden’s lead over Trump in many battleground states, like AZ, IA, NV, NC, OH, and PA is narrow.

KNOWITALL's avatar

@gorillapaws You’re right. My RED state just passed Medicaid Expansion by 53% this week.Republicans and Centrists do want people to have access to healthcare, too.

Here’s the map of Medicaid Expansion voted in by state:
https://www.kff.org/medicaid/issue-brief/status-of-state-medicaid-expansion-decisions-interactive-map/

Map of states by political party:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Red_states_and_blue_states

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