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The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

Violent media desensitizes people to violence. Does this make people more tolerant of real life violence?

Asked by The_Compassionate_Heretic (14591points) May 12th, 2009 from iPhone
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squirbel's avatar

One cannot build upon a sandy foundation.

[Violent media desensitizes people to violence.] – conjecture, proven by some studies, disproven by others.

[Does this make people more tolerant of real life violence?] – conjecture inferred from a conjecture. nothing to stand on.

aidje's avatar

So perhaps the question would be better phrased as “Does violence in media desensitize people to violence in real life?”

squirbel's avatar

The wording is not the problem with the question.

Someone will come along who will have no qualms answering a question like this.

GoPhillies's avatar

I think in your mind it would. But if something was to happen you may not react the same as you thought you would.

The_Compassionate_Heretic's avatar

I live in a city where one guy gunned down 4 cops in a day in addition to raping two girls. A shocking amount of people in the community are completely apathetic.

aidje's avatar

@squirbel My rewording removes the conjecture.

@The_Compassionate_Heretic If it’s true that people were completely apathetic, it might have more to do with with a lack of personal connection to the events. I don’t see any reason to assume that it has something to do with violence in media.

GoPhillies's avatar

Also, I do care about people and the wellness of my fellow person. But there is not much you can do about the event. The only thing you can do is make sure that you and your family are well protected. Unfortunately i think it is becauces people don’t have time to care about others. It is sad but true.

hungryhungryhortence's avatar

Yes, as long as it’s happening to other people. Once violence touches you personally then you’re not so insensitive or tolerant.

squirbel's avatar

No – the very concept is a conjecture. It’s not a proven fact.

aidje's avatar

@squirbel Was that a response to me? The only assumptions in my rewording are that (1) there is in fact violence in media; not even in all media, just that there does exist media that portrays violence, and (2) there is violence in real life. The question is whether or not the first makes a person apathetic to the second.

Crusader's avatar

@squirbel,
If violent-inspiring masoginistic rap(e)were the province of white culture, and country music and rock were the provice of your apparent ethnic group how would you feel about the question of this thread then?

As for myself, having lived elsewhere other than the US,
(where social cohesion and not political expediency is the norm.)I believe their is certainly a connection, particularly when the violence is glorified, after all, it is politically expedient for the liberals to do so.

squirbel's avatar

@Crusader: I feel you are trying to bait me. But – you do not know what ethnic group is my own. You look at my picture and you see brown skin, but you do not know my origins.

squirbel's avatar

Also, why is rape on one side, and music on another? Isn’t that a lopsided analogy?

Crusader's avatar

@squirbel,
Thats why I said ‘apparent.’ It is a legitmate question.
I have acquaintences of all ethnic groups. I have noticed a tolerance for behavior/messege from African sources from Africans, such as Michael Jackson-Pediphile/Rapist,Kobe Bryant-Rapist, OJ Simpson/Murderer, and Dr. Dre/Hate music/violence advocate, Wu Tang Clan/Hate Music, two two previous employed lyrics and messeges that are Very similar to Nazi SS training, dehumanizing, then annihilating for entertainment and ‘cleansing’ purposes, they indoctrinate to believe they and their ‘followers’ are fully justified-many awful crimes perpetrated against white girls and boys in the 90’s, (and now) not covered by media, whose inspiration were these rap(e)/murder advocates and their liberal allies.

Also, I do not define rap(e) as music, is it ideologically driven fear-inspiring Hate and misogyny. Plenty of Rhapsodizing is possibly without the Hate and misogyny messege.

squirbel's avatar

I cannot believe this. I cannot even believe someone with such thoughts still exists.

I’m done. No more following this topic.

Crusader's avatar

@squirbel
Someone who tells the truth? Yes, they still exist.

Ivan's avatar

Well, racism seems to be the only thing that makes people wake up and realize how backwards the hardcore conservatives are, so keep it up Crusader.

GoPhillies's avatar

@Ivan conservatives dont condone hate crimes or racism.

Ivan's avatar

@GoPhillies

Never said they did. Racism is more prevalent in the hardcore conservative ranks, that’s all.

Knotmyday's avatar

@Crusader – are you saying outright that you believe the black community tolerates misogyny, violence, and criminal activity?

Crusader's avatar

@Knotmyday,

There is a tolerance for such behavior among this demographic, history and statistics are very clear about this, fact is stranger than fiction.

@squirbel, appearances can be deceiving, cruelty and ruthlessness can cloak itself in many forms, designed to elicit guilt, sympathy, or compassion.

@Ivan, racism exists in all ranks, conservative and liberal, it is financially and politically expedient fro liberals to conduct such inquisitions vs. conservatives, it is the natural separatist nature, (all countries worldwide, are separated by race,) elicits the ‘racist’ tendency in white America, white extremism and violence is very rare, considerable less attacks from white vs. blacks then the reverse, after all, raping, mutilating, assaulting a white is Not a Hate crime, simply ‘hooliganism.’ Whites are Under Seige.

Also, plenty of voluntary segregation from other races in Amercia, black with black, latino with latino, asian with asian, arab with arab, jew with jew, but All these groups readily accept attractive Heterosexual white women, and include them in the ‘power’ group as under-represented and special, along with all dark skinned races, homosexuals and jews. This is as Blatent a legislated racism as can be conceived.

Liberals take the money, women, and power and disguise their will to power, not unlike Nazi SS with such deception as ‘good for all’ and ‘spread the wealth’ it is a cult of Power, not Love, war and death will follow if such principles are accepted, historically, and inevitably.

Ivan's avatar

@Crusader

I’m going to take a guess and say that English is not your first language, considering the majority of that was completely incomprehensible.

Crusader's avatar

@Ivan
Thank you for the predictable response.

Anyone else care to comment intelligently?

Ivan's avatar

@Crusader

lol. I would respond to your comment if I could understand it. Seriously, I’m not trying to make fun of you, I just can’t understand you.

Crusader's avatar

@Ivan,

Well, once you embrace values of accountbility, honesty, and charity perhaps you will understand, I will pray you find such.

Ivan's avatar

@Crusader

A quote comes to mind. Something about “lest ye be judged.” I’ll remember it eventually.

Crusader's avatar

@Ivan,

I accept my judgement, do you?

Ivan's avatar

@Crusader

Not from fundamentalists on the Internet who have never met me.

Crusader's avatar

@Ivan,

That is not the judgement I was referring to.
You have free will, so do I, open forum. If you cannot accept constructive criticism, I would advice not giving any.

Ivan's avatar

Implying that I can’t understand your broken English because I am irresponsible, dishonest, and uncharitable is not constructive criticism; it’s complete nonsense.

Crusader's avatar

@Ivan,

Ok, semantics, I’ll give my posts to an English professor for proper editing, will that satisfy you? (I am one myself, and did not detect any grammatical errors, perhaps you could enlighten me?)

You are like slippery eel, always changing the terms of the discussion. Unfortunately, such rambling is the hallmark of those whom you are in alignment with. And, given the deplorable state of education in America, coupled with duplicity and propaganda, you and yours would support the anti-christ himself, warts and all, sad. Though the A C would be anything but unattractive..
unless the perception of beauty is changed…

Knotmyday's avatar

Well, @Crusader, it is obvious that you are a White Supremacist, and not a very bright one.

At first I thought you were just a conservative fundamental Christian, with the consequent display of incoherence and adherence to rhetoric. Now I realize that you are just a bigot.

You are using this “open forum” to promote hate. Too bad.

I shan’t be following this post anymore either.

(apologies @The Compassionate Heretic.)

aidje's avatar

This thread has become pretty unbelievable on all sides.

Crusader's avatar

@Knotmyday,
You are entitled to your opinion, not true, but you are entiltled to it. Yours is the first accusation of all liberals who hate white men having any equality. White Separatist might be more accurate, I do not promote Hate, you do. I promote truth.

Ivan's avatar

@Crusader

Right, because we all know that “Separate but Equal” works really well.

Crusader's avatar

@Ivan,

Right, free country, for now, I can choose for myself, I am not legislating anything, not a public official, just a citizen, with Free Will.This I have as long as America is a Republic. Though, in truth, were it not for efforts of you and yours such as Forced Bussing, and promoting of Hate and justifying masogynistic Hatful lifestyles at the expense of white communities, perhaps I would be more inclined to integrate, but you and yours have perverted any likelihood for such true voluntary integration in the immediate future. You have yours now. Enjoy the rotten fruits of your ill-gotten gains.

Coloma's avatar

I checked out of all media and TV about 8 years ago. Media is a slow fear drip and I feel it is exremely unhealthy to feed on the fear & negativity thereof. I do not need to be ‘informed.’ Period.

On rare occasion I will read an article on my homepage depending on the nature of such. The health care reform bill…etc. But I don’t consider an article to be true media.

My mantra is, if something important enough happens, I’ll know about it soon enough anyway, always the town cryer that just loves to spread the drama. lololol

I think everyone would be better off if they eliminated media from their lives…gee, just think…everyone might actually pay attention to their own stuff and not be caught in the chronic angst of the world condition every second. The endless stream of stuff intended to keep us controlled and pliable via fear based tactics.

I firmly believe there is NO NEW NEWS under the sun, and that no crime, war, act of violence, political stance is any worse than any other in the history of humanity.

Other than checking the weather or a traffic report if needed…bah humbug to world drama. lol

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