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Seen Iron Man 2? Thoughts?

Asked by Zen_Again (9931points) May 16th, 2010

Took the kiddo to see it. We saw 1 on DVD so we were familiar with the movie and background, but wanted to see the second in the cinema.

Have you seen it and what did you think?

Rourke?

Don Cheadle?

Sam Jackson?

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CMaz's avatar

I saw the movie on the web last week. They do a good job. It flows real well.

MissAusten's avatar

My husband and I went to see it the other day. We had a good time, but then again, we don’t often get to go to the movies together!

Rourke’s character was great, and I would have liked to see more of him. The weapons guy (Hammer, I think his name was) just annoyed me. I know in this type of movie the characters are supposed to be over the top, but I couldn’t stop thinking that he was too obviously sleazy to have made it to the top of a weapons company, even a second-rate weapons company.

I like Don Cheadle, and Sam Jackson is almost always entertaining. Of course, Robert Downey Jr. was good for a lot of laughs, and I do like that he has a thing for Paltrow’s character and not the younger, hotter, Scarlett Johansson.

Spoiler alert! I thought the final fight between Iron Man, his buddy, and Rourke’s character was too quick. I wished they would have cut out some of the droid parts, flying around blowing stuff up, to have a bigger confrontation with the real bad guy. I also felt like the cure to the blood poisoning part was just too quick and easy. The SHIELD people just happen to have a temporary remedy, and the long dead father just happened to have left a coded message to his son that would just happen to hold the key to a cure for the blood poisoning.

Then again, it’s Iron Man 2 and it’s supposed to be fun, not something that will change the world or inspire people. I liked the movie about as much as I expected to, but I don’t think it was quite as good as the first one.

J0E's avatar

They should have cut half of the plot lines. Focused on Stark, Ivan, and Roadie.

Zen_Again's avatar

I’m with you on almost everything @MissAusten – he indeed annoyed the hell out of me. Perhaps this was intentional. Actually, Sam Jackson, for the first time, really bugged me. And do you know he’s signed a 9 picture deal as the character Fury???!!! 9!

Ivan's avatar

All the characters were unlikable and underdeveloped.

They tried to implement way too many story elements instead of focusing on anything in particular.

The entire movie is spent reminiscing about what happened in the first movie. Nothing particularly awesome even happened in the second one.

The battle scenes either looked fake or were unimpressive. You spend the whole movie waiting for the final battle between Ivan and Stark, and it ends anticlimactically in about 30 seconds.

The science was laughable.

Zen_Again's avatar

Tres correct and insightful, @Ivan – and I especially hate the self-deprecating quasi-humour with the dj scene (sad about DJ AM – but I mean the whole getting drunk and peeing in his suit. It was a Last Action Hero moment if you know what I mean.

syz's avatar

I didn’t love it like I loved the first one – it didn’t have the same charm. But it was ok. (And Mickey Rourke scares me. Seriously. I don’t think he acts. I think that’s just him.)

MacBean's avatar

Well, I liked it. But, then again, I was looking for a superhero movie sequel, not a deep philosophical treatise or an instruction manual on how to actually develop an Iron Man suit, so…

There were an awful lot of plot elements. A couple could’ve been taken out and left for another movie so others could be explored a little more. As happens with sequels, they were trying to make it as good as or better than the first one, and forgot that quantity does not equal quality.

But, yeah. I liked it. Not as much as the first one, but definitely a fun movie.

filmfann's avatar

Following The Dark Knight, I was hoping for from the sequel to Iron Man.
Everyone stay to the very end, and see what they found in New Mexico?

Zen_Again's avatar

@filmfann No – what was it?

SuperMouse's avatar

I have never seen the first, nor have I read any of the comics, but here is what I thought of this one.

1) Don Cheadle is one of the best actors working today and while I am glad he was cast in a blockbuster, his talent is wasted on this fluff.

2) A superhero is not a real superhero if his powers come from a suit.

3) Iron Man looks like a prissy ballerina when he lands with his hands all out to the sides like that, not too tough and rather girly.

4) Mickey Rourke looks like he has been rid hard and put away wet. Sidenote: His character and dad seemed to live in squalor, but he was able to afford some pretty gnarly equipment; that does not compute.

5) Samuel L. Jackson is a badass whatever he is in.

6) I could not hear Scarlett Johanson’s voice without thinking of her tour de force performance as Neptune’s daughter in The Spongebob Movie.

MacBean's avatar

2) A superhero is not a real superhero if his powers come from a suit.

Wow. You just totally wrote off my two favorite superheroes…

SuperMouse's avatar

@MacBean I know that my opinion on this is the minority. I had an hours long discussion about it last night with my boyfriend and his son – who both think my opinion is wrong, wrong wrong. I don’t know though, it just seems to me that a real superhero should have some actual powers not just get them from tossing on an outfit. In the case of Iron Man, the argument I hear against this is usually that Tony Stark is a genius who designed the suit and that is what makes him a superhero. In another thread uberbatman (among others) makes some great arguments against my theory, but I am still not convinced.

MacBean's avatar

@SuperMouse All the superheroes I can think of who get their powers from their suits also created the suits. (I’m not well-versed in this genre, though. Maybe there are some who “just tossed on an outfit.”) As my friend Chantal said when she read your reply, “They did it themselves. They took it upon themselves to do that. THEY ARE AWESOME.” What’s so impressive about being a super-special alien, or being bitten by a radioactive spider or whatever? That’s just boring. Brainpower is interesting.
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And a question for @Ivan, also courtesy of Chantal (who I wish would get a Fluther account, if only for moments like this): Exactly what kind of awesome thing were you expecting?

From an IM:
Chantal: I mean… Iron Man faced down a bad guy a couple of times, and won, and Tony faced down some inner demons… what else was supposed to happen in the sequel?
Chantal: oh, and he’s kinda-sorta-joining the Avengers. And he got the girl.
Chantal: And he has a side – er… partner, now.
Chantal: what else? armor upgrades? lol
Chantal: A BRAND FREAKING NEW ELEMENT?!

Zen_Again's avatar

@I have never seen the first, nor have I read any of the comics, but here is what I thought of this one. It’s hard to discuss this with someone who hasn’t read the comics or seen the first but what the heck…

1) Don Cheadle is one of the best actors working today and while I am glad he was cast in a blockbuster, his talent is wasted on this fluff. Agreed.

2) A superhero is not a real superhero if his powers come from a suit. Holy Batshit!

3) Iron Man looks like a prissy ballerina when he lands with his hands all out to the sides like that, not too tough and rather girly. Okay, maybe But it’s hard to land on your feet when coming down that fast. He does something resembling a landing from when you are parachuting._

4) Mickey Rourke looks like he has been rid hard and put away wet. Sidenote: His character and dad seemed to live in squalor, but he was able to afford some pretty gnarly equipment; that does not compute. Never look for too much logic. Besides, most Russkies live like that, even when they have lots of money ~

5) Samuel L. Jackson is a badass whatever he is in. He sucks in this. Sucks.

6) I could not hear Scarlett Johanson’s voice without thinking of her tour de force performance as Neptune’s daughter in The Spongebob Movie. She definately put the force in tour de force in this one. I predict a Black Widow movie in the works.

MyNewtBoobs's avatar

It’s freaking awesome, except for the parts where sexism runs rampant and I want to punch Pepper for not being a believable woman who cares about things other than a man. But other than that, un-freakin-believable.

Ivan's avatar

@MacBean

I don’t know, something significant I guess. They spent the whole time just talking about what happened in the first movie. Sure, he fought off a couple of drones that were attacking his own convention, but you never got the sense that he saved the world or anything like that. I mean, if you were going to give a bullet-point synopsis of the major events of the movie, what would you say?

Uh, there’s some guy who wants to kill Tony Stark, but he doesn’t. End of movie.

syz's avatar

@filmfann It was a crater in the desert, apparently created by the landing of a hammer. I’m not a comics aficionado – Thor’s hammer?

filmfann's avatar

@Zen_Again and @syz Indeed, it was Mjöllnir, the hammer of Thor.
I have no idea how they can make a movie about Thor. He is a god. How does that fit into today’s civilization?

Zen_Again's avatar

@Ivan By midway I wanted to kill Stark.

MacBean's avatar

I mean, if you were going to give a bullet-point synopsis of the major events of the movie, what would you say?

I’d start off with Chantal’s list that I already posted. And if I gave the movie a re-watch, I could probably come up with more interesting stuff. The problem is, nothing will ever be cooler than Tony Stark making himself a superhero while trapped in a cave, and he already did that. He can’t do it again.

@papayalily: What? ...Did we even watch the same movie?

monocle's avatar

It it didn’t blow me away or anything, I prefer the first one, but that doesn’t mean it wasn’t entertaining.
I agree that the “final boss battle” of the movie was way too easy.
Mickey Rourke creeped me out sufficiently, and my friends would not shut up about Scarlet’s body.
I just wanted to see robots fight each other. Overall, its a good movie. Daft Punk, anyone? :)

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