What are some Con's to working for Apple?

Yes absolutely. Ask them who took the bite out of their logo. And what that meant for the rest of society later on.

No really I’m serious mods! There is a philosophy behind their logo, and that philosophy should be considered in context to the OP.

Ask them (Apple) what the benefits and drawbacks are from partaking of the Forbidden Fruit.

BTW… during the interview, when asking them about the pros and cons that you should be “aware off”, make sure you say “of” and not “off”.

They’re pretty harsh on any screw-ups. So many people have killed themselves after screwing up because they were afraid of what would happen when Apple found out that new employees must sign a clause saying that if they feel suicidal, they will talk to someone in the company about it.

@papayalily is there a source reference for that? I would be very interested in reading that. (for my own personal use and to fuel my side of a debate with some MacFanboi friends)

@papayalily, just how harsh are they on screw ups? FIRED or pay cut or what?? Signing a suicidal clause im kool with since the military has to do a yearly refresher of it.

@Seek_Kolinahr Off the top of my Google search http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/37354853/ns/business-world_business/

I can probably find something else.

@sanbuu Apple Gestapo

My son worked for Apple on the help desk for a year. He was very happy there, and only had to leave because the outsource contract he was working under was cancelled.

@papayalily

That’s not an Apple company, that is a company that manufactures Apple products.

Foxconn Technology Group also makes Dell and Nokia products. And really, with 300,000 employees, you’re bound to have a few suicides. I mean, that’s half the population of DC.

@Seek_Kolinahr True, it’s Foxconn but a surprising number have been Apple-related (people keep leaving prototypes around and then killing themselves).

I know our local Apple Store is constantly slammed. It may help the day go by faster, but there may be times when you just want to catch your breath, but can’t. I assume you’re looking at a retail store? I’ve heard the benefits and wages are excellent relative to other comparable companies. One nice perk is that indie software developers often give away free licenses of all their software to any person with a valid @apple.com email in the hopes that you might like their software and pass on an endorsement to customers when they’re looking to buy a Mac.

If you’re applying to work in corporate, I think the secrecy aspect might be frustrating. Imagine working on the iPhone 3 years before it was released and never being able to tell your wife what you did at work that day? I have met several employees who work at the mothership, and they all really love their jobs though, so if that’s where you’re applying, I think you don’t have much to worry about if you get the job.

Good luck on the interview.

I presume you mean Apple the corporation and not a retail outlet for Apple products.

I don’t know how it is these days, but here in Silicon Valley (where Apple is) I used to hear people talk about the cycles they go through at Apple: staff up, cut back. I knew a number of people who were victims of bloodbaths at Apple. Of course, by now I don’t think there’s a high-tech company in the Valley that hasn’t had its layoffs, but this was well before the dot-com bust led to waves of “reorgs.”

Unwarranted criticism about your company’s product.

@MeinTeil What would you considered unwarranted criticism? What would you consider warranted criticism?

“Macs aren’t worth the money”. “Mac users are brainwashed members of a cult”.
These are criticisms I consider unwarranted.

@MeinTeil

The first is subjective (example: I think Macs are incredible for professional digital imaging and audio projects. However, I’m just an everyday shutterbug that listens to music. No need to spend upwards of three grand on the pro-quality product when a less expensive product will serve me just as well. It would be like swatting a fly with a bazooka)

and the second is unwarranted criticism of Mac users – not Mac product.

Oh no… It is quite warranted. I’m a card holding member of the Mac Cult. Since the Quadra days when 20mghz and 8 meg of ram was considered a powerhouse. Can’t count the number of Macs I’ve owned, not including the E-Mate and half a dozen Newtons.

Currently the proud Cultish Owner of at least ten newish MacMonsters.

Alas, I have rebelled, refusing at all costs to join the iPhone Cult. I like my Android.
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And here’s how they breed new cult members. I was recently listening to a philosophy podcast from a major university. At the end, the instructor told the students that the lecture was available on podcast as MP3. A student asked “Do I need an iPod for that”?

The answer was “Yes”. Both the instructor and the student join the cult by default of ignorance.
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Remember when AOL wanted everyone to believe that they were the internet, rather than a portal into the internet?

Mac does the same thing with their iTunes, iPhone, iMacs. They don’t want us to believe that these items are tools and gateways into entertainment and connectivity. They want us to believe that they ACTUALLY ARE entertainment and connectivity.

Evil wags its dogmatic tale when man confuses the medium with the message.

It’s an Apple… Have a bite. Surely you won’t die. You will see as God sees.

Awh Jeez… Don’t get me started on Lucent Technologies.

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies I’m not sure I agree with your “and here’s how they breed new cult members” section. When you blow your nose, do you use a kleenex? Millions of people substitute the name of a product with the name of a brand. That is great marketing. But that doesn’t mean that people who say kleenex join the cult of the kleenex brand. It just means they use that term instead of tissue.

If the student had asked, do I need a Sandisk for that? Few if any would even know Sandisk made MP3 players.

Not to mention, iPods play AAC. I don’t even think you can put MP3’s on an iPod, can you?

Oh yes it does. That’s exactly how advertising hypnotizes humanity. You call it great marketing. It may be effective. But I wouldn’t call anything that butchers the meaning of words great.

The tissue on my nose is NOT a Kleenex. Therefor it should not be called one. And humanity as a whole does not benefit by being hypnotized from their so called great marketing. Humanity as a whole benefits from all competitors being considered upon their individual merits, and not for any slippery sales pitch that attempts to convince us that a Puff’s is a Kleenex.

It’s that very same mentality that hypnotizes the public into believing that Gays are evil, Blacks are thieves, and Hispanic’s are going to steal your job away.

Try walking into a copy shop and asking to get a document Canoned. No? Well do you Ricoh? Hey can I get a few Kyocera’s?... They’ll look at you like an idiot. But ask the same clerk if you can get that document Xerox’d… and she’ll be glad to help you. And there’s a good chance she’ll do it on a Minolta. Now she’s the idiot. It’s not a Xerox. It’s a copy.

When humans are deceived into believing that the medium IS the message, that is pure evil. I know it seems trite. But expand the concept a bit. It is the very reason that prejudice and intolerance exist. And it fosters secret back door deals which benefit the few at the expense of the many.

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies I just don’t see that as evil and I certainly don’t associate it with ignorant hate crimes like gays being evil, blacks being thieves, or Hispanic’s stealing jobs. Branding has gone on for ever and some brands have better name recognition than others. You are correct that not all tissue is Kleenex, that is why I asked. Many people use the term interchangeable. Some companies fight the idea with success. Just like when someone asks what kind of PC I have. The answer is a Mac. But it is still a Personal Computer. There are examples, as you know, of this in all sorts of things. Googled is another example. The noun has become a verb. Is that evil, I don’t think so. Even the company’s motto is “Don’t be evil.” I guess we will agree to disagree on this one.

A dead giveaway. I remember the most unscrupulous mechanic I ever hired was the one who advertised, “Finally, An Honest Mechanic”. I thought great! This guys got it together… NOT. He robbed me blind.

So I put little faith in a company that advertises Don’t be Evil

@RealEyesRealizeRealLies But that’s about Google, not Apple.

@papayalily He was responding to my previous post where I stated googles motto. I also don’t put much credence in it, I just repeated it.

Apple, like any company will have many pros and cons. Each person who is going to work there has to figure out for him/herself which out ways which.

I and @RealEyesRealizeRealLies disagree with the way in which one describes “cult of mac” or any other product.

@missingbite Oh, thanks for clearing that up.